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Title: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Chillyheat on August 08, 2015, 09:19 PM
I had been making my own curries for some time on a standard electric halogen hob. The resulting curries never really had that taste. Electric hobs are probably a no-no but having recently switched our hob to an induction one, the resulting curries are turning out fantastic. The high heat it generates is working wonders. So, if anyone is stuck with electricity for cooking, I recommend switching to an induction hob.
 :)
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Geoffbrick on August 09, 2015, 09:19 PM
HI CH,when we moved house we left the gas cooker And bought a pricy AEG,from Currys(naturally).All singing and dancing,no it isn't.Does exactly as your halogen hob.Bought an induction hob,great(right pans needed).Plenty heat,can't fault it.Find it useful,as I can move it around the kitchen,May get another one :) :).Good luck with your curries.
Cheers Geoffbrick
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Cummo22 on January 20, 2016, 06:48 AM
I'm using induction but what are the best pans to use?.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: fried on January 20, 2016, 07:02 AM
After a fair bit of trial and error I settled on a  stonewear or stoneline wok with a flat bottom. It also has a glass lid which comes in handy. Not sure of the exact brand as I'm not at home.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 20, 2016, 08:56 AM
Aldi recently did a very good value 24cm ceramic pan (£9-99) which is induction-compatible [1]; I bought one specifically for making curries using my induction hob.  Far lighter than my 24cm stainless steel pan of the same size, and therefore more comfortable and less tiring to use.
** Phil.
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[1] Heavy forged aluminium body with non-stick ceramic coating; comfortable soft touch Bakelite handle; suitable for use on all hobs, including induction; available in three colours.
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Post by: Micky Tikka on January 20, 2016, 09:54 AM
Good spot Phil
I'm changing to induction soon and will need a curry pan  :)
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Alastair Sim on September 10, 2016, 04:41 PM
Hi Phil,
I was about to post something in this area as my good lady wants to update the kitchen and migrate towards induction as is much easier to clean than the old gas hob.

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[1] Heavy forged aluminium body with non-stick ceramic coating; comfortable soft touch Bakelite handle; suitable for use on all hobs, including induction; available in three colours.

Aluminium pans will not work on induction hobs directly, they need to be made from a ferrous metal (iron). You can only aluminium if you place them on a ferromagnetic disk.

AS
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 10, 2016, 05:24 PM
Hi Phil,
I was about to post something in this area as my good lady wants to update the kitchen and migrate towards induction as is much easier to clean than the old gas hob.

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[1] Heavy forged aluminium body with non-stick ceramic coating; comfortable soft touch Bakelite handle; suitable for use on all hobs, including induction; available in three colours.

Aluminium pans will not work on induction hobs directly, they need to be made from a ferrous metal (iron). You can only aluminium if you place them on a ferromagnetic disk.

True if the pan is made solely of aluminium, Alastair, but many modern "aluminium" pans have ferromagnetic inserts in the base for this very reason; mine is one such, and I would gladly replace all of my earlier stainless steel frying pans with these new ceramic/aluminium pans as they are so much lighter and therefore far more convenient to use.

** Phil.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: tempest63 on September 10, 2016, 06:40 PM
I have a number of different pans that I use on the induction hob. Circulon are our everyday pans but curries etc. are normally done in one of our Le Creuset pans. Cast iron are brilliant for browning onions.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Alastair Sim on September 11, 2016, 01:24 PM
Hi Phil,

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many modern "aluminium" pans have ferromagnetic inserts in the base

That I did not know, do you cook on induction then ?

If so is it something you would recommend, our kitchen needs a refit and I have informed my better half that its not possible to cook curries on anything other than gas.
Cheers
AS
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 11, 2016, 04:00 PM
Hi Phil,

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many modern "aluminium" pans have ferromagnetic inserts in the base

That I did not know, do you cook on induction then ?
I use both induction and halogen -- the main (4-burner) hob is halogen, but I also have a single-burner induction hob which I often use.  Obviously all of my pots/pans/etc. are induction-compatible so that I don't have to think when taking a pan out "will this one work ?".

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If so is it something you would recommend, our kitchen needs a refit and I have informed my better half that its not possible to cook curries on anything other than gas.
Apart from three brief years in Tunbridge Wells, where we had an Aga and gas, I have never used a gas hob, so almost all of my curries have been cooked using electricity.  IMHO, if any cuisine requires gas, it is Chinese (and related), because a proper wok burner is a fearsome thing.  But curries, and everything else that I cook, cook just fine using electricity.

** Phil.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: tempest63 on September 11, 2016, 04:32 PM
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I have informed my better half that its not possible to cook curries on anything other than gas.

I have a Neff five ring induction hob which I have used for 5 years now and can't fault it, I cook a couple of curries each weekend. Far better than halogen with a lot more control.

I also noticed that James Martin was using one in his house on Saturday kitchen. He commented to another chef that it was the future of cooking, or something in a similar vein.

Regards T63
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: m0rq on September 12, 2016, 08:00 AM
I'm going to jump in here with a thumbs up for induction. I use a regular electric induction hob with coated steel pans, and it works very well.

One needs to understand how these work, a look in the manual might help: There is a difference between heat and temperature. The induction provides heat to build up temperature. Once a desired temperature is reached at a high setting, it will be preserved on a lower setting. On a scale of 1 to 9, when the induction fires at full blast at 9, it will build up a very high temperature, and set back to 6 or 7 when cooking a curry, it will maintain just the right heat to keep the pan bubbling. Reduction and caramelization just work very well this way, the supplied power is more than enough.

Just one thing does not work for me: using woks with a relatively small base, they just don't build up an evenly distributed heat and keep bubbling in the center of the wok pan. I use a standard Silit pan with a very broad base, and heat gets distributed very evenly in the whole pan, making reduction easy and fast.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Alastair Sim on September 12, 2016, 11:45 AM
Hi Guys,
Thanks for all of the info on this, but I also have another angle. My good lady will not allow me to use PTFE based non stick pans, apparently at certain temperatures birds start falling out of the sky with the nasty fumes (I might be overstating this a little). I have tried a very expensive ceramic coated pan and a cheap Aldi iLag ? coated pan. These are great on day one but seem to quickly loose the ability to become non stick, the manufacturers seem to use the same 'get out' by stating that the pan has not been cleaned correctly.
I am currently using aluminium pans for cooking curries as these seem to the best for non stick and easy to clean, and yes there scares about these too.
I did start out with stainless but it's the burning on the sides and a pain to clean, trying not use abrasives as this exacerbates the situation.
I do currently own a very expensive stainless frying pan but it gets used for non curry activities, I still have some occasional mino burning issues with that but I am considering spending a day with a car buffing mop and a load of jewellers rouge to create a highly polished surface to see if that helps.
I had a quick nose around, could not pick up on those aluminium pans with ferruos inserts, if anyone can enlighten me I would much appreciate the help.
Thanks again.
AS
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 12, 2016, 01:58 PM
You could try one of these (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tower-T81242-Aluminium-Non-Stick-Cerastone/dp/B01434RW9A) -- mine (https://www.aldi.co.uk/24cm-ceramic-coated-frying-pan/p/068122018945400) came from Aldi and is not Ernesto/ILAG (as are my stainless pans) but rather Crofton/Ceramic.  24cm rather than 28cm as in the first (Amazon) link, lovely soft-touch handle, light and well balanced. Used /only/ for curries !

** Phil.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Alastair Sim on September 12, 2016, 02:23 PM
Hi Phil,
That's fantastic thanks, and not expensive at all, my precious stainless steel pan is a 70GBP job.

I take it that you do not use the a metal chef spoons otherwise there is a potential to damage the coating.

Thanks again
AS
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 12, 2016, 02:40 PM
No, only wood or nylon for my ceramic-coated pans.
** Phil.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Garp on September 12, 2016, 07:41 PM
Nice to see some disregard of the myth that BIR has to be cooked in an ally pan with gas burner :)

(Although I like my gas hob and wouldn't want to change it, and an anodised wok)
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: tempest63 on September 12, 2016, 08:56 PM
Nice to see some disregard of the myth that BIR has to be cooked in an ally pan with gas burner :)

I thought it used to be black iron cauldron hanging from a tripod over a wood/coal fire?
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: stevepaul on April 06, 2019, 05:09 PM
Been using a single ring induction hob for years. They are very controllable and very efficient. So efficient and fast that I don't bother with the electric kettle anymore. Between that and a mini oven I can cook a full Sunday roast for two no problem and everything else in-between. The full sized cooker I have is just used to support the mini oven and once I get round to making a built in unit, the cooker will be going to the tip. I've seen twin induction hobs in Aldi and been tempted, but I just don't need a twin.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Donald Brasco on May 07, 2019, 08:59 AM
I recently switched to an induction hob and overall it’s certainly an upgrade, but one thing bugs me - how to cook my h4ppy naans now I no longer have a halogen hob?

They used to do quite nicely on an inverted tawa held close down on top of the halogen hob, but with an induction hob that’s not possible (no radiant heat). So how have you induction hob owners solved this problem?
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Garp on May 07, 2019, 09:06 AM
How about under the grill. That might work.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Donald Brasco on May 07, 2019, 09:09 AM
Might do, and it’s a logical suggestion I suppose. I just wonder if a grill, even preheated on max, will get up to the kind of temperature which will cook a naan quickly to avoid drying it too much.  I shouldn’t knock it until I’ve tried it though, and it might be the only option short of a blowtorch.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: mickyp on May 07, 2019, 10:41 AM
Lay a flat cast iron grill plate / griddle pan on the hob and turn it up full, that might work
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: chewytikka on May 07, 2019, 12:49 PM
FORGET your induction, buy a handy camping burner.
Enough fire to to cook stove top Naan and all your curries.

Cost about £10 and a fiver for plenty of Gaz, - even cheaper
at discount Supermarkets.
(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/05518d3ce34cb33c27a7ed059abdd0da.png) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#05518d3ce34cb33c27a7ed059abdd0da.png)
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Garp on May 07, 2019, 02:18 PM
Might do, and it’s a logical suggestion I suppose. I just wonder if a grill, even preheated on max, will get up to the kind of temperature which will cook a naan quickly to avoid drying it too much.  I shouldn’t knock it until I’ve tried it though, and it might be the only option short of a blowtorch.

I was suggesting that the grill be used as an alternative to inverting the tawa only. I assume that you can get a flat surface pan/plate which will work with your induction hob that will heat up enough to start the cooking process from the bottom - then under the grill to finish it off.
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Donald Brasco on May 07, 2019, 02:24 PM
Yep, that’s the way I took it garp  8)
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Donald Brasco on May 07, 2019, 02:27 PM
Lay a flat cast iron grill plate / griddle pan on the hob and turn it up full, that might work

I can’t see that working tbh. It would need to reach one hell of a temperature to radiate enough heat to brown the top of a naan off. Thanks for trying to help though.

FORGET your induction, buy a handy camping burner.
Enough fire to to cook stove top Naan and all your curries.

Cost about £10 and a fiver for plenty of Gaz, - even cheaper
at discount Supermarkets.

That’s a pretty good solution I reckon. I used to have one of those stoves from my camping days, but haven’t seen in years, so it’s probably disappeared (how does stuff do that anyway?). I’ll pick up another one.

Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Micky Tikka on May 08, 2019, 03:05 PM
I've been lazy recently and although having a tandoor and a gas burner
And being impatient   ::) while my naan was heating in my pan on my hob I whipped out my blowtorch and bubbled up the top of the naan
I was impressed anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: mickyp on May 08, 2019, 04:55 PM
Hmmm with just a hint of flux :)
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: Micky Tikka on May 08, 2019, 08:09 PM
No butter  ;D
Title: Re: Induction Hob if on electric...
Post by: livo on May 08, 2019, 11:46 PM
FORGET your induction, buy a handy camping burner.
Enough fire to to cook stove top Naan and all your curries.


A mate of mine moved into a new home with an induction stove and simply went to the camping store and bought a 3 burner gas camp stove that proudly sat on top with a 9 kg propane gas bottle at the end of a long hose.  Not pretty but he couldn't stand not having gas.  He may have swapped to a new stove by now.

Some of those little ones you've shown Chewy were recalled from shops out here with product warnings issued for their return or disposal.  These were the really cheap ones. The better branded ones are still available.  Primus and Companion.  We use them all the time on our outdoor camp over trips to Pony Club events and the like.

You need to be careful though as most "camp" gear is marked for outdoor use only.  Although, I think you'd have to do a fair bit of cooking in a well sealed room to end up Carbon Monoxide affected (ie: unconscious or dead).   ;)