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Title: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: George on December 18, 2017, 12:39 PM
Someone made the sensible suggestion that one reason for some members losing interest in this forum could be if they can make all the dishes they are interested in. That's xertainly not the case for me, Partly out of laziness - failing to put enough effort into my research - I still can't make at least two dishes which were on my priority list as long as 15 years ago. These are:

1.. The vegetable sauce which nearly always accompanies birianis in the UK. I sometimes think it's litle more than base sauce with a few vegetables thrown in, but I can't achieve a flavour as good as most restaurants,

2. Dry style saag aloo which tastes divine even though there's hardly any sign of oil, let alone base sauce.

Can anyone point me to recipes here or elsewhere which could lead me to ticking off these two dishes?

Which dishes do you find most frustrating?
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: Edwin Catflap on December 18, 2017, 03:29 PM
George

They are my two dishes that I have previously given up on, especially the sauce. Even Dips biryani sauce is lacking for me

Ed
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on December 18, 2017, 05:10 PM
I confess that I have never tried to replicate T/A biryani sauce (simply because I never eat it: I prefer my biryanis dry), but like George, I too would love to be able to replicate a really good dry sag aloo / aloo palak.  And I would add to that "a really good dry chicken bhuna".

** Phil.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: chonk on February 19, 2018, 02:32 PM
Hey Phil,

have you ever tried frozen creamed spinach (I'm using Iglo brand)? I like the semi-dry punjabi versions. I prepare some basic tomato-onion-masala, puree and reheat it and simply add the frozen spinach cubes. Round about 7-10 minutes after that, I'll add the pre-boiled potato cubes (you can also fry them). Instead of making some fresh masala, you could start off with some base-gravy. I use 100ml pureed tin tomatoes, 250g frozen creamed spinach and 200g potato cubes.

Best
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: Secret Santa on February 19, 2018, 04:47 PM
The vegetable sauce which nearly always accompanies birianis in the UK. I sometimes think it's litle more than base sauce with a few vegetables thrown in, but I can't achieve a flavour as good as most restaurants,

Same here George. But as you mention, the closest I've got is by boiling up veg in base sauce and then adding a small amount of mix powder. That gets me close but not quite there. I think the secret here is in keeping it uncomplicated but it has to be the right mix of base sauce and mix powder which I haven't achieved.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: livo on February 20, 2018, 11:50 PM
My mission began around 20 years ago with trying to replicate my children's favourite "Indian" dish, being Mango Chicken. Most Indian restaurants and takeaways here cook it and while there are some minor differences between establishments, it is fairly safe to say that it is always very similar.  I did finally achieve a dish that is nice to eat and close to the mark thanks to the advice of Chewytikka, http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=12501.10 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=12501.10). However, I cannot yet claim to be able prepare "The dish" I can buy almost anywhere.

I nearly turned my kids off it with all the near misses and "try this one" attempts. I took a couple of years off regularly cooking curry for various reasons but I'm about to give it another try. Yesterday I began on a different path, using the Restaurant-Style Curries pages from the newly rediscovered Wayback Machine captures of the Celtnet.org.uk. (A big thankyou to PP here. I thought it was gone forever.)

I made a batch of the sites Base Gravy (Restaurant Curry Sauce) and then used it to precook some chicken (Indian Cooked Chicken). I made a Chicken Korma using the sites recipe and the Korma Curry Powder as well which was delicious. I also did the sites Lamb Rogan Josh and Naan plus my own mixed vegetable curry.

All very nice but the interesting point is that the pre-cooked chicken, when tasted on its own, is strikingly similar to the flavours I've been trying to achieve.  I might be onto something here. I guess I'm off the the Indian grocery shop for yet another tin of Mango Pulp and some fresh almond meal.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on February 21, 2018, 12:56 PM
Hey Phil,

have you ever tried frozen creamed spinach (I'm using Iglo brand)? I like the semi-dry punjabi versions. I prepare some basic tomato-onion-masala, puree and reheat it and simply add the frozen spinach cubes. Round about 7-10 minutes after that, I'll add the pre-boiled potato cubes (you can also fry them). Instead of making some fresh masala, you could start off with some base-gravy. I use 100ml pureed tin tomatoes, 250g frozen creamed spinach and 200g potato cubes.

Than you for the suggestion, Chonk.  No, I confess I have not tried frozen creamed spinach, and confess I have never seen it when shopping.  I normally use fresh spinach, but should (of course) realise that BIRs are very unlikely to do the same ...  Where do you buy yours ?

** Phil.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: Secret Santa on February 21, 2018, 06:07 PM
I normally use fresh spinach, but should (of course) realise that BIRs are very unlikely to do the same ... 

** Phil.

I think you'll find that (at least) for the dry  sag aloo you mention fresh spinach is essential as it needs to be cooked almost to burning to get that flavour you're after. You can't really do that with frozen spinach and definitely not with canned. I've no doubt that frozen spinach probably is used in the more mundane, saucy dishes though.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on February 21, 2018, 08:12 PM
An interesting perspective, Santa; I shall have to bear that in mind.  My reason for thinking that BIR takeaways would probably not use fresh spinach is that it is very space-inefficient ...

** Phil.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: Secret Santa on February 22, 2018, 03:16 PM
An interesting perspective, Santa; I shall have to bear that in mind.  My reason for thinking that BIR takeaways would probably not use fresh spinach is that it is very space-inefficient ...

** Phil.

I think we (which includes me) have been a little too eager to make apparently logical assumptions that in retrospect and in the light of newer BIR revelations turn out to have been unfounded. I'm a little more circumspect these days.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: livo on February 23, 2018, 06:51 AM
I now need to find a new mission.

30 odd years ago there was a start up business, in a beachside town where I used to surf, that was run by a young husband and wife team, cooking and home delivering "Indian" food. I only tried it once while visiting friends who actually lived there in the beach town.  Indian restaurants only just started to happen at around the same time but the business, like many others, failed even though the food was fantastic.  The dish that stands out in my memory as something I'd love to recreate was a Chicken Korma, however, it was a white korma.

This may be a much shorter mission than the previous one as I think that CT's Malai Tikka might almost already be close to the mark.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: livo on February 22, 2019, 07:39 AM
I did some analysis on this one today.  Looking pretty promising at this stage.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: Secret Santa on February 23, 2019, 05:33 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: livo on February 23, 2019, 08:17 PM
Not hot but nevertheless contains 6 green chillies and a fair amount of both black and white pepper . I know some people don't like korma but it is a curry, this one prepared traditionally, not BIR.  I do like korma and might add it was pretty good (imo) . This is a variation or combination of 6 recipes for traditional Pakistani White Korma or Safed Qorma.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: One Keema Naan on March 05, 2019, 11:11 AM
Naan.   The best I can manage is something similar to the ones you can buy from the supermarket, which are nowt like a TA naan.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: pap rika on March 05, 2019, 04:02 PM
One Keema Naan,
                                 Try this link,


Regards pap rika
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: One Keema Naan on March 31, 2019, 08:10 PM
Thanks, will try that one out and let you know the results.   Flat breads in general, other than basic chapati,  elude me
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: stinkydave on July 04, 2019, 08:22 PM
I have in my humble opinion smashed loads of curries to perfection with the help of this site. I've even gone against all that is holy, tried hot pineapple in a dhansak and really enjoyed it ( Hawaiian pizza still belongs in the bin). I just can't find anything resembling the taste of a vindaloo that I get from any takeaways/restaurants around me, despite having tried everyones mega/final/ultimate recipes.
Title: Re: Which favourite dishes have you failed to crack?
Post by: jalfreziT on July 08, 2019, 06:14 AM
@stinkydave Have you tried Richard's version?


Also tried different vinegars?