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Title: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: prawnsalad on December 27, 2018, 02:00 AM
Firstly opening a thread in which people shout insults at each other is not my aim here. I understand all media is to some degree prejudice but as someone who found the decision to vote remain a very easy one I wanted to post this link for anyone who was not aware of the coming problem.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-curry-industry-brexit-staff-shortages-bangladesh-catering-association-a8677911.html

Just to reiterate the damage is pretty much done so we should probably all make the effort to ask those questions we were getting around to at our local TA's as there will be without a doubt far less of them in the near future.




Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: livo on December 27, 2018, 09:22 AM
Well that looks pretty grim. I have to say that as an outsider looking in, I never expected Brexit to be as easy as some would have had us all believe.  The big problem is that something like Brexit or the Greek collapse or the Irish banks affects the whole global economy. My little piece of the action is dependent upon what happens over there. 

Indian takeaway folding is not as important as the rift between the Duchesses though. Heaven forbid Katherine doesn't get along with, ? her name eludes me. Harry's wife. What's here name. There are still photos of her in an extusive leg up yoga position.  Not very royal at all.

I know as Aussies we can't make any claim to political stability, but really? Boris? He looks like an older version of a tennis player and probably not as smart. Somebody tell him what a hair brush is for.
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: livo on December 27, 2018, 09:41 AM
But really. is it going to happen?  The vote initially was tainted by the claims that people voted for Brexit just for the "shock value" and never expected it to win.  It did and everybody shat themselves.  The Prime Minister resigned.  The new one has had no joy.  The Irish border isn't going away.  A new vote will be seen as a deliberate abuse.  You guys cant win from here no matter where the chips fall.  It's ugly.
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on December 27, 2018, 10:10 AM
I voted remain.  Whilst the EU is by no means perfect, it is a bloc of which I am proud to be a part, and it annoys me that we as a nation refuse to participate in it more fully, retaining our own currency and remaining outside of the Schengen zone, thereby making European travel both more expensive and more difficult than it might otherwise be.  Those whom I know who voted to leave fell into two camps :  the first were those resented the number of Euro-migrants who sought to come to this country, and the second were those who believed that British business would do better if it were not subject to the mandates of Brussels.  With the first group, I simply have no sympathy whatsoever
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: George on December 27, 2018, 06:29 PM
So project fear has now raised its ugly head on this forum. Can there be any less significant or important aspect of daily life than the future of Indian restaurants? Moreover we haven't yet left yet and can't be sure we ever will so it's far too early to assess what will actually happen. Indian restaurants only have themselves to blame for declining standards and a likely (near-racial) reluctance to take on non-Indian chefs..Also, with the recipes on this forum,it's not exactly essential to use the restaurants any more, is it?
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Secret Santa on December 27, 2018, 07:47 PM
Fewer Indian restaurants and takeaways post Brexit means they can pick and choose from the best of the current chefs and waitstaff. So you have fewer but better quality establishments. What's not to like?

And the usual breast beating from the BCA is hardly surprising. Their raison d'
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on December 27, 2018, 10:29 PM
Crikey, Santa
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Secret Santa on December 28, 2018, 12:19 AM
What's with this "waitstaff" nonsense ?

A perfectly acceptable collective noun, surely? Unless you can offer another one ... I'm open to suggestions.
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on December 28, 2018, 12:37 AM
A perfectly acceptable collective noun, surely?
"Acceptable" in North America (the spiritual home of political correctness) only recently, but barely known over here.  The OED says :
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Draft additions March 2006
 
 waitstaff  n. chiefly N. Amer. the staff employed as waiters and waitresses in a restaurant (with singular or plural concord).
1981   Washington Post 11 Jan. k52 (advt.)    We are looking for good people to train for the following positions: Cooks Prep Dishwashers..Waitstaff [etc.].
1994   Minnesota Monthly May 61/2   Desserts and pasta don't always click, but the sharp wait staff seldom misses.
2002   E. J. Ridley in R. R. Sims Changing the Way we manage Change vii.135   Waitstaff were given communications training.

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Unless you can offer another one ... I'm open to suggestions.
"Waiters and waitresses" (as they have been called for centuries).

** Phil.
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: CarpCarp on December 28, 2018, 12:41 AM
Waitstaff/Waiting staff  employment description taking orders and delivery of food. In today
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: livo on December 28, 2018, 09:24 AM
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-21/tasmania-may-become-first-state-with-optional-gender/10517106 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-21/tasmania-may-become-first-state-with-optional-gender/10517106)   ???  This is a bit like optional blood type or DNA.

Our tax system already has the inclusion of Gender = Indeterminate. 

I'll have to see if I can look up the job title of a person who waits tables in an Indian restaurant and is of indeterminate or optional gender.  ;D 

I believe the Hijra (hermaphrodites, eunuchs and transgenders) of the sub-continent are now recognised as a third gender,
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Secret Santa on December 28, 2018, 03:43 PM
I'll have to see if I can look up the job title of a person who waits tables in an Indian restaurant and is of indeterminate or optional gender.  ;D 

I think they're known as Edna Everages. Easily distinguishable from the binary norms by their characteristic blue-rinse hair styles.
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on December 28, 2018, 04:43 PM
So back on topic, chaps
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Secret Santa on December 28, 2018, 04:54 PM
Well I voted to remain because I/we at that time didn't have enough solid information to make an informed decision and so went with the better the devil you know scenario.

Now that we've had the two-odd years of debate and real info that should have preceded the first referendum in a true democracy (I'm implicitly assuming there will be a second) I can't decide so I'd probably not vote. But there's a couple of months to go yet and who knows what will tip the balance one way or the other!
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Les on December 29, 2018, 10:47 AM
As far as I'm concerned, they can shut down every T/A in Britain,  mostly  Dirty places with bad food anyway, ;D (although there are some exceptions)
I didn't vote, so I don't care one way or the other, not much will change for us older generation.
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on December 29, 2018, 10:57 AM
I don't care one way or the other, not much will change for us older generation.

I fear that it will, Les.  For a start, the medications on which many of we older folk depend originate in Continental Europe.  If we leave the EU, medication prices may rise, the NHS may be forced to ration them in order to keep costs under control, and so on.  Leaving Europe is as insane as electing Donald Trump president of one of the most powerful nations on Earth.
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: CarpCarp on December 29, 2018, 11:04 AM
Imo not the best subject for the forum, it
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Les on December 29, 2018, 11:37 AM

I fear that it will, Les.  For a start, the medications on which many of we older folk depend originate in Continental Europe.  If we leave the EU, medication prices may rise, the NHS may be forced to ration them in order to keep costs under control, and so on. 


They may Phil, and on the other hand they may not, Rationing medication also may not be a bad thing, pill's are handed out like sweets. we could save money their, ;)
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Les on December 29, 2018, 11:38 AM
Imo not the best subject for the forum, it
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on December 29, 2018, 11:44 AM
Imo not the best subject for the forum, it
Title: Re: Post Brexit TA closures.
Post by: CarpCarp on December 29, 2018, 04:28 PM
Imo not the best subject for the forum, it