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Title: Curry Leaves
Post by: fitdog on February 04, 2019, 07:53 PM
Anyone recently grown curry leaves, i come from Bradford the home of curry lol but the price of fresh curry leaves is horrendous so want to grow my own.  I have used the search function but looking for recent growers. Where can i get seeds/saplings from and will they do well indoors?
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: livo on February 04, 2019, 09:34 PM
I'm growing a healthy plant that presently has a whole lot of great big seed berries (drupes) on. This will not help you much though as I live in a temperate, bordering sub tropical region. You may be able to grow successfully in a pot if you can have it indoors with horticultural suitable lighting or in a glasshouse over winter.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: fried on February 05, 2019, 04:56 PM
I heard that last year there was a shortage of fresh curry leaves, leading to panic in the restaurants that I eat in Paris where it is considered an essential ingredient. I don't know if there's some worldwide curry leave shortage or it's just seasonal.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on February 11, 2019, 01:05 PM
Hi Fitdog,
Yep i have grown my curry leaf tree from a small plant that i got from "The Citrus Centre" (google) im in surrey, its now 3 years old and a healthy 2ft high bushy tree, last year i got a crop of berries that didn't quite make it to seeds, maybe this year lol,
just avoid frost, keep it away from ponds, (scale insect) and during the winter an outside shed is fine, during the summer feed with citrus food, soak the pot and then let it dry out before watering again, ie stick your fingers in the soil and only water when the soil is dry for at least two inches, its good fun, enjoy
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on February 13, 2019, 04:02 PM
I heard that last year there was a shortage of fresh curry leaves, leading to panic in the restaurants that I eat in Paris where it is considered an essential ingredient. I don't know if there's some worldwide curry leave shortage or it's just seasonal.
Hi Fitdog,
Yep i have grown my curry leaf tree from a small plant that i got from "The Citrus Centre" (google) im in surrey, its now 3 years old and a healthy 2ft high bushy tree, last year i got a crop of berries that didn't quite make it to seeds, maybe this year lol,
just avoid frost, keep it away from ponds, (scale insect) and during the winter an outside shed is fine, during the summer feed with citrus food, soak the pot and then let it dry out before watering again, ie stick your fingers in the soil and only water when the soil is dry for at least two inches, its good fun, enjoy
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: livo on February 20, 2019, 01:20 AM
Here's mine in full berry.  I'll try to grow some from the seeds this year.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: Bob-A-Job on February 20, 2019, 02:22 AM
As a relatively Green fingered individual, growing my own chilli plants, I have been following this thread and others.

Whilst I am not above paying for plants, I prefer to grow from seed if I can, although I have found that sometimes the advertised plant is not always the seed provided.

My son has an 'App' that identifies most plants and I have asked him to identify my Bay Leaf Bush, the next time he is over (I aquired a small bush cutting from a very old family friend).  I recently read on here that some are ok and some are Poisonous!  I have not harvested any leaves yet, as you can tell from the fact I am still here!
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on February 20, 2019, 09:17 AM
My son has an 'App' that identifies most plants and I have asked him to identify my Bay Leaf Bush, the next time he is over (I aquired a small bush cutting from a very old family friend).  I recently read on here that some are ok and some are Poisonous!  I have not harvested any leaves yet, as you can tell from the fact I am still here!

Very wise — (European) bay is always laurel, but laurel is not always bay.    Laurus nobilis *(the common bay tree) is, of course, edible (well, the leaves and berries at least) but there are many trees worldwide with foliage similar to Laurus nobilis that gain the local vernacular name of "laurel" whilst in fact being something completely different and often poisonous.

** Phil.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on February 20, 2019, 10:03 AM
As a relatively Green fingered individual, growing my own chilli plants, I have been following this thread and others.

Whilst I am not above paying for plants, I prefer to grow from seed if I can, although I have found that sometimes the advertised plant is not always the seed provided.

My son has an 'App' that identifies most plants and I have asked him to identify my Bay Leaf Bush, the next time he is over (I aquired a small bush cutting from a very old family friend).  I recently read on here that some are ok and some are Poisonous!  I have not harvested any leaves yet, as you can tell from the fact I am still here!

Curry leaf seeds have to be wet within its Berry to be viable, if it has dried out it won't germinate, there is quite a bit of good stuff on youtube, I have tried several times with cuttings by buying fresh curry leaves on sturdy stems but none worked, i suspect they were to old, or had been kept chilled so i bought my plant.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: livo on February 20, 2019, 11:01 AM
I'll have to read up on harvesting the berries. Thanks for that heads up mickyp. Some may be ready to go.

Propagation from cuttings can be tricky and varies from plant to plant. Some can be grown from hard cuttings (old wood) or soft (new wood) but in different seasons. Others are only easily struck by one or the other during one season. Environmental conditions need to be carefully controlled for some, while others will strike by dropping a piece on the ground. I'd say trying to strike from a leaf sprig would take a bit of practice and some luck.  You may have more success trying from your own stock plant as store bought may be completely unviable due to the time lapse after cutting.  Rooting hormones may be required as well.  There are several nurseryman and horticulturalists in my wife's extended and immediate family.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on February 20, 2019, 12:18 PM
I tried rooting powder, scratching the bark off, coating it in rooting powder, one stem i bought gave me a run and started to shoot buds but then died, i think the energy / food within the stem caused that, you might be right about my own plant, but that is providing me with my needs for now so i will leave it be.
I shall be cutting back a bit in march to stimulate new growth, last summer which was a good one it doubled in height.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: chewytikka on February 20, 2019, 01:07 PM
Great looking curry leaf tree you have there mickyp

Love to grow one myself, but its not going to happen.

I just have to rely on my local Asian Store.
@1.39GBP still cheap enough for its unique flavour.


(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/218468c40dec2bbe53afb98949ec1920.png) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#218468c40dec2bbe53afb98949ec1920.png)


Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on February 20, 2019, 01:26 PM
Great looking curry leaf tree you have there mickyp

Love to grow one myself, but its not going to happen.

I just have to rely on my local Asian Store.
@1.39GBP still cheap enough for its unique flavour.


(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/218468c40dec2bbe53afb98949ec1920.png) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#218468c40dec2bbe53afb98949ec1920.png)


Thank you,

It was one of those things that through a gauntlet down for me, buying the fresh leaves and thinking could i grow my own, so i looked into it.
After trying to grow cuttings i bought one about 10 ins high for £15, it just seemed a fun thing to try, i bought some citrus feed which it gets in its water, I lost about 6 ins off the top when it got knocked into the fishpond by the nephews playing football, and scale insect which was i think from originally living in the conservatory. Treated that and it goes into our cabin during the winter / frost.
Last year it thrived and produced a clutch of berries, these were late and didnt mature.

Unless your way up norf you could get one and grow it if you have the time lol, i did have to shut my eyes the first time i cut a sprig off to cook though  :(
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on February 25, 2019, 07:42 PM
Cut my tree back and harvested some leaves, hopefully new growth will kick in over the next month or so
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on February 25, 2019, 07:44 PM
Cutting, rooted using turmeric, fingies crossed
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: livo on February 25, 2019, 09:14 PM
That looks a viable cutting. It may help to leave 1 or 2 leaves on the top side shoots. These will allow some photosynthesis to continue. Too many though is no good as you'd know. Did you only use Turmeric below ground?  A dab of Turmeric paste on the exposed cut surfaces is also beneficial to promote healing over and reduce risk of disease, mold or fungus attack.

I planted about a dozen seeds yesterday.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on February 25, 2019, 11:18 PM
Thanks for that Livo, i didnt know that about the tumeric paste, i will take that on board.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on February 27, 2019, 09:41 AM
Well i hope the earth tremor that shook our house last night didn't upset twiglet the baby curry leaf tree,
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on March 19, 2019, 04:18 PM
Curry leaf cutting 22 days on,

Livo to answer your question which i somehow missed yes i used just Tumeric as a rooting powder nothing else, i also used soil from the garden rather than potting compost, firstly it gives more physical support and has no added nutrients, i wanted the cutting to root which i think its more likely to do if its hungry.
I also brought the cutting in and placed the pot on a heat mat to warm the soil, apparently that encourages root growth, its far from tropical here lol
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on June 07, 2019, 11:29 AM
My plant would be unrecognisable at the mo as i cut a lot back to harvest, and it's sprouting new branches and leaves, it did have berries forming but i removed most as they take energy which i would prefer to go to leaves, so loads are forming, sadly i check it every day and yesterday afternoon discovered about a dozen greenfly.

All that needs to be said is they are not there now, removed and plant sprayed grrrrrrr.

Chilli plants are doing well too
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on June 07, 2019, 02:39 PM
Just as a point of interest, with what would you feel comfortable spraying a greenfly-infested edible leaf if you were later planning to eat those leaves ?
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: bhamcurry on June 07, 2019, 03:12 PM
Phil, I'd spray edible leaves with soapy water. Soap always kills bugs, but there is no residual action so you'd need to keep spraying until the bugs are gone.

Natural bug predators like ladybugs or dragon flies would also help.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on June 07, 2019, 04:01 PM
Hi Phil ive used an insecticide spray, it say's if using on edible fruit do not harvest for three days from spraying, i will not be harvesting these until late summer or even next year when i will prune, the leaves will be washed, dabbed dry, used or frozen. Bham i do mist it and the chilli plants with water containing a drop of Fairy liquid which will then sit on the leaves rather than roll off, bugs dont like wet leaves lol
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: Bhaji Bob on June 11, 2019, 10:35 AM
I'm impressed with the efforts on home growing curry leaves and the pictures of full plants shown are great.  I've given up on growing stuff now
so obviously have to buy this sort of thing at one of the local Asian stores.  However, yesterday I came across a supply at Sainsbury's - 5g (3 sprigs) £1.20.  Good enough for me and probably enough for two or maybe three curries
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on June 11, 2019, 02:41 PM
BB, its all about the fun and challenge, it would be 18 months before you could harvest anything but its a tenner well spent.
+ points for you is you dont have to worry when you go on holiday about curry leaves and chilli's lol.
Next time you go to your local Curry House, ask them where they get there's, they may even give you some ;)
,
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on June 11, 2019, 05:03 PM
£1 79 for 15g

https://www.redrickshaw.com/products/fresh-indian-curry-leaves-15g-approx?variant=7096588337200
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: Bhaji Bob on June 11, 2019, 05:28 PM
Better value for sure.
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on July 11, 2019, 05:17 PM
Yay curry leaf tree has hatched a sproglet
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: Garp on July 11, 2019, 07:55 PM
You sure that's not a stray weed mate?
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on July 11, 2019, 09:27 PM
Lol, checked that Mr Garp, it’s a baby deffo
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: Garp on July 11, 2019, 09:35 PM
Congrats mate  :D
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on July 11, 2019, 09:52 PM
TY MrG
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: chewytikka on July 12, 2019, 01:19 PM
Banned Fresh Curry Leaf update.  :D ;D

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/39c8edb5b809be8bcc9ef024d28edd15.png) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#39c8edb5b809be8bcc9ef024d28edd15.png)
Bought a bag of fresh curry leaves  this morning GBP 1.29
dispelling an earlier rumour/ media myth that they are banned in the UK.
Making a few BIR South Indian Tamil and Malabar curry dishes this weekend - Yum
You just can’t get the flavour without these FRESH curry leaves, truly indispensable.
I would have stripped your tree by now! mickyp ;D
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on July 12, 2019, 02:32 PM
Lol it thrives in the middle of a moat of Cobra’s out of interest Chewy on the bag where is the country of origin?
Title: Re: Curry Leaves
Post by: mickyp on July 12, 2019, 03:19 PM
Sainsbury sell them fresh but do not state country of origin, Waitrose however state Spain as the originating country which is fine, the ban is India, Sri Lanka, etc, so the Myth / rumour remains trooooooo and intact :)