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Title: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: jb on February 13, 2012, 09:58 PM
This is the actual mix powder Az's assistant was prepairing on our lesson.It was surely the biggest amount of mix powder I've ever seen!!  Obviously it needs scaling down for home use,in fact Az said it would last his chef about a week.He prefers to use East End/Natco brand of spices.

The curry powder he uses is mild madras,not Eastern Star.It's very important to make your own garam massala.Az said most takeaways make their own and the pre made stuff is no good.He'd never heard of Jaipur garam massla although he did know of their existence of producing spices.I will post Az's garam massala mix next.This is not that different from any other mix powder on the forum,but non theless it is the actual mix powder used in the restaurant.

22 heaped chefs spoons curry powder
16 of corriander
12 of cumin
15 turmeric
2 chilli
just a half of garam massla

Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: gazman1976 on February 13, 2012, 10:08 PM
Thanks JB
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Jeera on February 16, 2012, 07:20 PM
Thought this simple spreadsheet might be useful for someone looking to make this with scaled down quantities... Just change the number in the yellow box to if you want to tweak. I used this to make a reasonable home dose of the stuff (tablespoons)

ps. Thanks a million to all who made the effort to get this hands on training. Superb!!

http://www.mediafire.com/?gaz29yy9n4hd99g (http://www.mediafire.com/?gaz29yy9n4hd99g)
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: haldi on February 18, 2012, 09:34 AM
Thought this simple spreadsheet might be useful for someone looking to make this with scaled down quantities... Just change the number in the yellow box to if you want to tweak
That's briliant
Thank you Jeera
I made the spice mix last night
I needed it for the curry gravy
What a brilliant aroma this gives when cooking
If fact I keep going back to the spice mix jar and having another sniff
This could be habit forming!!!
Thanks JB
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: JerryM on February 18, 2012, 09:46 AM
did i pick up that msg was added to the mix powder albeit in a small amount.
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: curryhell on February 18, 2012, 09:49 AM
did i pick up that msg was added to the mix powder albeit in a small amount.

 :o :o. It most definitely was not Jerry
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: JerryM on February 18, 2012, 10:04 AM
curryhell,

many thanks. it's something that i've tried but don't use although some BIR's must use down to that after thirst.

personally i'm well pleased it's a NO.
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Jeera on February 18, 2012, 11:14 AM

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What a brilliant aroma this gives when cooking
If fact I keep going back to the spice mix jar and having another sniff
This could be habit forming!!!
Thanks JB


lol Haldi, that is exactly what I did when I first made the mix powder up. addictive as hell...hehehe
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: curryhell on February 18, 2012, 11:28 AM
curryhell,

many thanks. it's something that i've tried but don't use although some BIR's must use down to that after thirst.

personally i'm well pleased it's a NO.

Mmm, could that not maybe be garlic powder though creating the thirst::) ;D
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: curryhell on February 18, 2012, 11:37 AM
Thought this simple spreadsheet might be useful for someone looking to make this with scaled down quantities... Just change the number in the yellow box to if you want to tweak. I used this to make a reasonable home dose of the stuff (tablespoons)

ps. Thanks a million to all who made the effort to get this hands on training. Superb!!

http://www.mediafire.com/?gaz29yy9n4hd99g (http://www.mediafire.com/?gaz29yy9n4hd99g)
Nice little tool Jeera.  Thanks ;)
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: JerryM on February 19, 2012, 10:27 AM
curryhell,

have tried garlic powder myself (salt is another) and the "thirst" is quite different to that caused by msg.

when i tried msg - i did not like. at the back of my mind was that i used too much by adding direct to a single portion - hence the thought that adding into the mix might give better result and may be done on the high street. i must add that i find the best restaurants don't use msg or if they do then it must be very little as there is no extreme thirst. i have no intention of using. i am purely searching for differences between Zaal and what i do already.

i now realise the comment that i'd pickup on was in fact garam - which i already include albeit not the chef masala variety. the lower proportion in this mix (1 or 0.5 : 22 curry powder) is something that gels well with me.
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: loveitspicy on March 10, 2012, 11:40 AM
right you orrible lot as someone once said

Ive made this spice mix up twice now and its a very very good mix indeed - so much so - if you get any on your hands invariably i do it still has a great curry aroma

GOOD MIX - well done AZ and the boys for posting

best, Rich
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Razor on March 10, 2012, 01:26 PM
Hi Jeera, great tool my friend, just one thing though, the formula for the Garam Masala is not scaling properly. 

I don't know jack s**t about computers so don't think I'm trying to be a smart arse, I just noticed that if I entered 10 in the yellow box, the sum for the GM stayed at 0.1, as it does for 4.4.  But it goes to 0.0 if I enter 20 in the yellow box?

Ray :)
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Les on June 01, 2012, 12:05 PM
Hi Jeera
Your link to the spreadsheet isn't working, Could you post it again please, or if someone has the scaled down recipe, any chance of posting it please

Les
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Les on November 28, 2012, 10:05 AM
Hi Jeera
Your link to the spreadsheet isn't working, Could you post it again please, or if someone has the scaled down recipe, any chance of posting it please

Les

OK, so everyone has left the building  :o

Les
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on November 28, 2012, 11:34 AM
If anyone can remember the functionality of the spreadsheet, I would be willing to attempt to re-create it.
** Phil.
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Naga on November 28, 2012, 04:23 PM
Would I be wrong in thinking that it is the ratios that are important rather than the means of measurement?

It seems reasonable to assume that one could replace the term "heaped chefs spoon" with tablespoon, dessertspoon, teaspoon, ounce, gram or whatever.

22 x curry powder
16 x coriander
15 x turmeric
12 x cumin
2 x chilli
0.5 x garam masala

It seems straightforward enough, so perhaps I am missing something.
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Malc. on November 28, 2012, 04:31 PM
It is about ratio but the smaller the spoon you use, the greater the chance or error, if you see what I mean. These values are for volume measures though, so you'll need to convert them to weight values before applying the ratio.
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on November 28, 2012, 04:38 PM
It is about ratio but the smaller the spoon you use, the greater the chance or error, if you see what I mean.

I wonder whether that is true ?  If a recipe calls for a teaspoon of X, and I inadvertently use a rounded teaspoon of X, then will I not have the same excess (pro rata) as if I were to do the same with a chef's spoon ?

** Phil.
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Malc. on November 28, 2012, 04:50 PM
I don't believe so Phil, no, especially when you consider a heaped spoonful. But i'll leave it there. ;)
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Edwin Catflap on November 28, 2012, 04:51 PM
Hi

Can you confirm that this below is Az garam masala's recipe and is the cardamon powder or whole with husks etc

three cinammon sticks
one heaped desert spoon green cardomon
one flat level mustard seed
three quarters level onion seed
five or six bay leaves
one level cumin
half level fennel
Simply roast in the oven,cool then put into a coffe grinder.The smell was amazing,so different to the pre made stuff.Az said it's pretty potent stuff and should be used sparingly,
certainly not sprinkled on a dish at the end as some sources suggest.


Cheers

Ed
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: curryhell on November 28, 2012, 04:59 PM
Can you confirm that this below is Az garam masala's recipe and is the cardamon powder or whole with husks etc
This is indeed the Zaal garam masala.  I got to measure it out (under Az's instructions) and dictate the volumes as i see them to jb to record.  The green cardamons were indeed whole, not powdered.
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Edwin Catflap on November 28, 2012, 05:03 PM
Cheers CH gonna have to give this a try?

 :)
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: curryhell on November 28, 2012, 05:14 PM
It is about ratio but the smaller the spoon you use, the greater the chance or error, if you see what I mean. These values are for volume measures though, so you'll need to convert them to weight values before applying the ratio.
Mmm, not sure that i agree Malc.  You can be just as inaccurate with a chef's spoon as a teaspoon and just as inconsistant.  I would have said it was all relative really ::).  But by using a fixed measured unit ie. level tbs or tsp etc will result in the correct ratio.  And it was ratio the chef was measuring out and he didn't see any need for scales to do it, so i don't see why we should ;)
Made this mix when i used up my other one, and have continued to make it ever since.  IMHO it ranks as one of the best here.

Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: curryhell on November 28, 2012, 05:22 PM
Cheers CH gonna have to give this a try?

 :)
As per the original thread Edwin, bare in mind that after the intial grind Az wasn't happy with the cardamon overpowering the mix and added additonal cassia bark and Asian bay so you may want to add another stick of cassia and 2 or 3 extra bay leaves.  The powder should be darkish brown and the smell of cardamon should just be detectable whereas the cassia and bay should be fairly prominent.
Good luck and let us know how you get on  ;)
Title: Re: mix powder from Zaal,Fleet
Post by: Tommy Timebomb on November 01, 2014, 09:21 AM
Thought this simple spreadsheet might be useful for someone looking to make this with scaled down quantities... Just change the number in the yellow box to if you want to tweak. I used this to make a reasonable home dose of the stuff (tablespoons)

ps. Thanks a million to all who made the effort to get this hands on training. Superb!!

http://www.mediafire.com/?gaz29yy9n4hd99g (http://www.mediafire.com/?gaz29yy9n4hd99g)
The link to your spreadsheet does not appear to be working anymore Jeera.
Is it still in existence pls as I would like to see how you made it?
Never been good at maths lol.