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Title: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: CardiffCurrylad on June 12, 2012, 12:03 AM
After talking to a BIR chef who mentioned he adds Kashmiri Masala to his madras I inevitably went out and bought a box. I am now intrigued as to whether anyone has added this to their curries! :-\
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: joshallen2k on June 12, 2012, 01:53 AM
Hi CCL, I don't know Kashmiri "Masala", but I do use Kashmiri Chilli Powder in my Madras. Used it once and never went back. Its a pinkish-red box from MDH.

Are you talking about the same thing, or a spice mix?

- Josh
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: colin grigson on June 12, 2012, 06:08 AM
I recall that Razor uses Kashmiri masala paste in his excellent kebabs .. I don't know if it's the same stuff as you have though CCL    :)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: Willyeckerslike on June 12, 2012, 06:44 AM
As well as Razors kebabs the Pataks kashmiri masala paste is used in cwg's onion bhaji
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: 976bar on June 12, 2012, 07:02 AM
Here you go CC, try this :)

http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=3585.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=3585.0)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: Naga on June 12, 2012, 09:49 AM
Dalpuri has also posted an excellent recipe for the Zaal Restaurant's Red Masala Paste (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=8313.0) which uses Kashmiri Masala Paste.
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: DalPuri on June 12, 2012, 10:08 AM
Or maybe CCL means Kashmiri Bassar Masala?  :P

and if so, Yes many times. I love it!  ;D

Frank.


p.s. on the subject of Kashmiri chilli powder. Be aware of the ingredients list as some brands are a "blend" and not pure
       Kashmiri chillies.  e.g. MDH brand is a blend.  ;)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: chewytikka on June 12, 2012, 02:22 PM
Hi CCL
Kashmiri Masala is a very strong paste and can overpower the other flavours of a curry.

I wouldn't use it in a Madras, because Madras doesn't need these extra spices or the Kashmiri after taste.
But I would use it in a spicy Roghan Josh and Balti, or any Lamb or Beef curry where I want strong enhanced flavours.

I've never seen a Chef use this directly in a curry, but I have watched a sous chef
using a touch of it, to spice up a Tikka stir fry and Katti kebab.

On the other hand, I really enjoy inventing new curries using flavour enhancers,
especially from the boxed selection in the Asian Supermarkets.

Did you buy the boxed MANGAL brand Kashmiri Masala, as I use it and its stronger
than Pataks. I empty the pouch and mix the stiff paste with veg oil and store it in an airtight container.

I do the same with their Kheema Masala paste, as I think it will go off if you just leave it in the pouch.

cheers Chewytikka
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: 976bar on June 12, 2012, 04:13 PM

On the other hand, I really enjoy inventing new curries using flavour enhancers,
especially from the boxed selection in the Asian Supermarkets.

Hi Chewy,

Do you have a decent recipe for a Chicken Chaat at all please? One of my favourite starters and I bought a box of "Shan" Chaat Masala mix, but need a recipe :)

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/f6ad719c75a0f117d86646617bba9e08.jpg) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#f6ad719c75a0f117d86646617bba9e08.jpg)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: curryhell on June 12, 2012, 04:58 PM

On the other hand, I really enjoy inventing new curries using flavour enhancers,
especially from the boxed selection in the Asian Supermarkets.

Hi Chewy,

Do you have a decent recipe for a Chicken Chaat at all please? One of my favourite starters and I bought a box of "Shan" Chaat Masala mix, but need a recipe :)
I haven't tried this Bob but if the pre-cooked chicken, staff curry and tikka marinade are anything to go by it should be good ;).  I suspect the special spice is IFFU spice mix with Jalpur GM

http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=2904.msg26096#msg26096 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=2904.msg26096#msg26096)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: 976bar on June 12, 2012, 06:24 PM
Oooer, I had totally missed this one, thanks for the heads up :)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: bamble1976 on June 12, 2012, 08:39 PM
I have a tried and tested recipe I will post in the next few days :)

regards

Barry
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: 976bar on June 12, 2012, 09:08 PM
I have a tried and tested recipe I will post in the next few days :)

regards

Barry

Wooo hoooo yes please :)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: CardiffCurrylad on June 13, 2012, 03:42 PM
Hi CCL
Kashmiri Masala is a very strong paste and can overpower the other flavours of a curry.

I wouldn't use it in a Madras, because Madras doesn't need these extra spices or the Kashmiri after taste.
But I would use it in a spicy Roghan Josh and Balti, or any Lamb or Beef curry where I want strong enhanced flavours.

I've never seen a Chef use this directly in a curry, but I have watched a sous chef
using a touch of it, to spice up a Tikka stir fry and Katti kebab.

On the other hand, I really enjoy inventing new curries using flavour enhancers,
especially from the boxed selection in the Asian Supermarkets.

Did you buy the boxed MANGAL brand Kashmiri Masala, as I use it and its stronger
than Pataks. I empty the pouch and mix the stiff paste with veg oil and store it in an airtight container.

I do the same with their Kheema Masala paste, as I think it will go off if you just leave it in the pouch.

cheers Chewytikka
Hi Chewy,
That's correct I bought the MANGAL brand, diluted it with a bit of hot water then added oil to it. It is now in the fridge :)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: CardiffCurrylad on June 13, 2012, 03:44 PM
I recall that Razor uses Kashmiri masala paste in his excellent kebabs .. I don't know if it's the same stuff as you have though CCL    :)
Hi Colin,
Thanks for that, I shall add some next time I make the kebabs  :)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: CardiffCurrylad on June 13, 2012, 03:47 PM
As well as Razors kebabs the Pataks kashmiri masala paste is used in cwg's onion bhaji
Thanks worth knowing  ;)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: CardiffCurrylad on June 13, 2012, 03:48 PM
Here you go CC, try this :)

http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=3585.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=3585.0)
Thanks 976 will definitely give that one a go!  ;)
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: livo on March 17, 2018, 11:53 PM
Another "very old thread" but the best place to post this.

What is the big mystery surrounding, and unavailability of, any form of Kashmiri Masala all about?  I can only find 2 online stores in Australia that show they have it (Mangal brand) but both display "difficulty posting to my address" when I try to proceed through the checkout, even though I live within the stated postal area.  This is for the Mangal brand packet only.  I have contacted both firms by email and await replies.  Pataks is simply not available at all and I can completely forget about finding Bassar.  The local Indian Grocer just stared blankly at me at first, then smiled and shook her head as she was speaking in another language to her husband on the phone.  I suspect he was at the wholesaler at the time.

Why does H4ppyleader's video about his home made paste say "the one you're not meant to know about"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3d21zsmM8E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3d21zsmM8E)
Has anybody tried this paste for themselves and if so how is it?  How would it compare to Bassar Masala?

I have found 2 other pastes, supposedly Kashmiri but the ingredients list is nothing at all like you'd think it should be.  These are Deep and Boslt's brands.
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: livo on April 05, 2018, 09:49 PM
My 2 packets of Mangal Kashmiri Masala arrived end of last week and as I was away over the Easter weekend, I didn't really pay them much attention until yesterday. In my searching for the product I had noticed that internet pictures of the packaging showed some marketed as Masala and other as Masala Paste. The packets I was able to obtain were just Masala and I was informed that it is powdered Masala.

Upon examination yesterday I became curious with the advice on the box that shelf live can be extended by storing in a jar with oil. :o.  The external box has no Best by or Expiry date so I expected it might be on the internal foil envelope. Nope. There is no date anywhere, and this is when I noticed that the Masala is in fact a little  50 g blob of squishy paste, the consistency of Playdough. I'm very keen to try it out but I'm going to wait till next week. 

I missed it in the email I received from the managing director of the local spicery, where he asked for my address to post me a complimentary sample of his newly developed Kashmiri Masala / Bassar. I am going to wait for it to arrive next week and when it does I'll be doing 3 comparative preparations of Kashmiri Chicken Masala with all things equal except these 2 commercial Masala and also using my own Bassar creation.

This should prove to be an interesting and tasty day in the kitchen. ;D
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: littlechilie on April 06, 2018, 07:54 AM
Livo, Pasco do fantastic Kashmiri Masala. I don’t know how anyone can recreate Bir cooking without it. It’s such an important ingredient in so many things.
These are my go to Products in my cupboard, however I’m also a fan of Laziza but find Laziza heavily aimed at the traditional Indian Palette.

I did make H4appy Chris’s paste one time and remember it being quite good, but without a comparison at the time I just found it easier to purchase. I may give it a go again sometime soon.
However for yourself it is probably an excellent option especially if it’s difficult to get your hands on it.

Starange as I may be I have found myself retracing H4ppy’s video’s this week, there is some excellent information tips hidden within the videos, Sam is just a wealth of information.
It really is a crime to British Indian restaurant cooking that the e-book was never published, there is so many unexplained endings to his videos that I would of love have seen finished viewing .
Just one of the comments that struck me as interesting while watching, was his comments on high output burners and that the use of these in takeaway cooking. Sam tells us high heat is purely for speed cooking and would have no benefit for the home cook..
http://www.pascospices.co.uk/index.html
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: livo on April 06, 2018, 11:05 AM
Thanks LC but it looks like another big miss out here in Oz.

I'm actually now waiting on a refund on my recently ordered Laziza products. After completing the online order process and paying through PayPal, I received an email from a guy explaining that he was developing a website for someone and that they never expected anyone to actually buy the products. My research must be pretty isolated out here. Obviously not many Aussies want Tikka Boti.
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on April 06, 2018, 12:59 PM
Have you tried this recipe (http://www.thecrazychef.pk/2011/12/make-your-own-spice-mixes-tikka-boti.html), Livo ?  And was this (http://www.hindustan.com.au/all-products/shan-tikka-boti.aspx) the site from which you ordered ?

** Phil.
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: littlechilie on April 06, 2018, 08:32 PM
Thanks LC but it looks like another big miss out here in Oz.

I'm actually now waiting on a refund on my recently ordered Laziza products. After completing the online order process and paying through PayPal, I received an email from a guy explaining that he was developing a website for someone and that they never expected anyone to actually buy the products. My research must be pretty isolated out here. Obviously not many Aussies want Tikka Boti.

(Obviously not many Aussies want Tikka Boti.)sorry but lol  ;D

Livo,I have PM you.

Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: livo on April 06, 2018, 10:02 PM
Thanks again Phil. I'll give that a try. No, that isn't the site I ordered from. I had seen it before but I was after the Laziza brand Tikka Boti. Have you tried the Shan? I didn't mind the Shan Shami Kabab Masala but didn't think much of the box instructions. (see off topic below)

Thank you to LC as well. I have some good leads to work on now thanks to you and Phil.

I actually spoke to the young proprietor of my local Indian grocer a couple of days ago and explained what I'm after. To say he was surprised at my requests is an understatement, but he has promised to source some bits and pieces for me if he can. He asked me what I was doing and when I told him he was astounded at my knowledge and efforts and said "even I can't do that".

I have also found that there are quite a few large IGs, in parts of Sydney, that have considerable product range, but they are not online at all. I visit the Skin Cancer clinic at a large hospital in that area every 6 months so my next trip will involve a bit of leg work and some short distance train hopping.

Off topic, The Shan Shami Kabab instructions were way off with the covered pot and even after I'd removed it I found that I still had a very wet mix and I considered it unworkable for the formation of the Kababs so I added thickening agents. This turned fine and the Kababs were good. Then I watched a couple of videos on the Lucknow Kababs, including the famous Tunday Kababi street stall . Maybe my mix was not too wet and that is how it is meant to be.
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on April 06, 2018, 10:11 PM
Thanks again Phil. I'll give that a try. No, that isn't the site I ordered from. I had seen it before but I was after the Laziza brand Tikka Boti.

OK, there seem to be a number of sites with Australian domains offering Laziza Tikka Boti (https://tinyurl.com/Laziza-TB-AU); maybe one of them will be able to help.

Quote
Have you tried the Shan?

No, I've used a number of their products, but never Tikka Boti.  When I have made chicken tikka in the past (and when I have made tandoori chicken, for that matter), I have just used individual spices and herbs, no pre-made mixes.  Lacking a tandoor, these are not dishes that I make frequently -- indeed, it is several years since I last did.

** Phil.
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: livo on April 06, 2018, 10:52 PM
Thanks Phil, I think India At Home  might be the strongest chance. The public room is the site under development I await my refund from.  It is no longer reachable and ozbazar gives warning of unsecured hacking and does not go to a Page. I had seen most of these but there are some I hadn't. Melbourne seems the place. Sydney is hopeless.

Of course I could just make do with raw ingredients and recipes such as you provided. It is not imperative to have the packet mixes. I have been able to find some things but the whole Indian market scene out here is a bit odd. As a grey haired old white Anglo Saxon I'm a bit foreign. The online supply simply appears to be quite dodgy.

Actually India At Home is the only link that works. The others are faulty, or misdirects or as is the case with The Spice Merchants, they failed to reply to my contacts. EBay is a link to UK products with crazy shipping costs. >:( Thanks anyway but this is what I already found.
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Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: livo on April 09, 2018, 10:52 PM
Have you tried this recipe (http://www.thecrazychef.pk/2011/12/make-your-own-spice-mixes-tikka-boti.html), Livo ?
** Phil.

I have now. ;D  Still a bit of room in the Spice Cupboard, just.
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on April 09, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jolly good !  Incidentally, I was in Costless in Plymouth yesterday (a multi-ethnic food shop) and they had a number of items from the Laziza range, but sadly not any tikka balti, otherwise I would have bought you a packet ...

** Phil.
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: livo on April 09, 2018, 11:13 PM
I haven't completely given up all hope out here yet, and also LC is investigating putting together a glee package for me.  I have had offers from yourself and a few others in this regard and I am very appreciative. I just think that adding post from the opposite end of the planet is a bit extreme for a couple of bucks worth of spice, but we'll see  how it pans out.
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: littlechilie on April 10, 2018, 02:58 AM
Livo I just noticed your spice cupboard is double stacked.. WoW!
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: livo on April 10, 2018, 11:11 AM
Livo I just noticed your spice cupboard is double stacked.. WoW!
That's only the front row. It is 3 deep in places. The stuff that doesn't fit is out in the back pantry. The aroma in the spice cupboard is quite nice.

LC, he who dies with the most spices wins. I have the same philosophy with fishing tackle, tools and underpants. For some reason I can't get it to work with money.
Title: Re: Uses for KASHMIRI MASALA
Post by: Naga on April 10, 2018, 12:47 PM
...For some reason I can't get it to work with money.

 ;D