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British Indian Restaurant Recipes - Main Dishes => British Indian Restaurant Recipes - Main Dishes => Madras => Topic started by: eddy87 on December 21, 2012, 06:32 PM
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Hey
I've been floating around on this forum and a couple of other ones and tried a few different recipes. I stumbled across this one the other day and utility is by far the best so far so I thought I would share as it is not from this site. O yes I used chewytikka's base gravy for this one.
10 pieces of pre-cooked chicken
350ml of pre-simmering melting base gravy
2 tablespoons of melted ghee
1 tablespoon of minced garlic
1 1/2 tablespoons of tomato paste mix
1 tablespoon of mix powder
1 teaspoon of medium chilli powder
1/8 teaspoon of hing
1 tablespoon of chopped coriander stalks
1 tablespoon of chopped coriander leaves
1 teaspoon of dried methi leaves
Method
1. Add the melted ghee to your pan set between low and medium heat. Allow the pan temperature and ghee to equalise.
2. Add the minced garlic. Keep stirring scraping and shaking the pan and cook the garlic until it turns golden. (This is critical, if undercooked you will impart a raw garlic flavour and if overcooked obviously a burnt taste but more so a bitter taste). Remove from heat.
3. Add the tomato paste mix. Return to the heat and stir in well with the edge of the spoon. (Keep stirring until the tomato paste extrudes colour into the ghee)
4. Add the chilli powder and stir round for a few seconds adding the hing whilst stirring.
5.. Add the mix powder and methi and stir around for 10 seconds, shaking the pan contents in a forward and backwards motion.
6. Add half of the melting base gravy/sauce and turn the heat up full. Keep stirring until boiling occurs.
7. Add the pre-cooked chicken and the chopped coriander stalks. After about 30 seconds add the remainder of the melting base gravy/sauce.
8. You should now keep folding in the contents from the outside of the pan to the centre to balance the heat and keep stirring. 9. After about 3 minutes add the finely chopped coriand and season with salt. 8)
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Looks promising, Eddy : thank you for posting.
** Phil.
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Hi Eddy
I know madras recipes are much of a muchness these days but I'm having serious feelings of deja-vu with this one. I'm pretty sure I've seen it somewhere else (might even have been this forum - my own version is almost identical).
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its copied from the other site. i thought it looked familiar, i only cooked it last week. i prefer chewys recipe though
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The melting base gravy is a bit of a giveaway that it comes from RCR.
Paul
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Might come in handy for the noobs like myself ???
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Might come in handy for the noobs like myself ???
Sorry what I really meant was if it is a cut and paste job from RCR, the other curry site then it may be a copyright breach. I suppose by using Chewy's base and not the RCR melting base you might be ok but I'm no expert.
Paul
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O rite, I didn't consider copyright :o. I shall bear this in mind in future ;D
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Sorry what I really meant was if it is a cut and paste job from RCR, the other curry site then it may be a copyright breach. I suppose by using Chewy's base and not the RCR melting base you might be ok but I'm no expert.
I'm no expert either but I assume if there's a risk of copyright breach, then the use of a different base is unlikely to be much defence. I say leave it, though and call their (I mean his) bluff. See if the legal team he claims to retain ($1000s per annum, even before they do anything specific?) is worth the web space it's written on.
I see also that my comment here, hinting at terrible navigation on that site is now being acted upon. I doubt if it's coincidence. Perhaps I should send him a bill for advisory services.
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I say leave it, though and call their (I mean his) bluff. See if the legal team he claims to retain ($1000s per annum, even before they do anything specific?) is worth the web space it's written on
Yet another error of judgement, in my opinion, George.
The material belongs elsewhere and should be deleted (unless their/his express permission is given to publish it here, which it's not). And it should be deleted by someone who hasn't promised to only remove spam (i.e. not you).
Yet again, all it does (and can do) is bring this forum into disrepute.
I used the word "provocative" (which is far too kind) in a recent thread. I actually meant "antagonistic".
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Hi,
How would we like it if our posts were taken
and posted on other sites ?
Even if posted here in error please delete this thread,
as its the right thing to do ;)
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Whenever I read a "melting base" recipe it makes me laugh
I don't mean that horribly, I really find it very funny
How many bases did Andy invent, that were supposed to come from a "restaurant"
The only time I have seen a new base cooked at any place, is when they have a new chef
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How would we like it if our posts were taken and posted on other sites ?
My honest answer, Graeme ? I would not give a damn, so long as the person replicating it elsewhere did not claim authorship/ownership. This site, like all similar sites, is about /sharing/, not hoarding : so long as proper acknowledgement is given, and that the site is not simply cloned but is selectively sampled, then I have no problem with recipes being posted elsewhere at all. Let us please remember that there is a very great deal of recycled material already on this site, much of it taken from published books that are themselves subject to copyright : if we are going to start the night of the long knives and insist that one posting, by one new member, be removed from the site, then let's do the job properly and expunge /all/ copyright material lifted from elswhere. And let's have a firm policy, stated up front under the terms and conditions of membership, that all contributions must be solely the work of the submitter and not lifted from elsewhere, and that no links to illicit copies of copyright material (such as the one below) may be included.
** Phil.
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Another one that also seems to get lost on the mist! :P
Khris Dhillon - Her's was one of the pioneering DIY British Indian Restaurant cooking cookbooks around 8)
Check out the recipes here: http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=1652.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=1652.0)
Check out other downloads here: http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?board=5.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?board=5.0)
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let's have a firm policy, stated up front under the terms and conditions of membership, that all contributions must be solely the work of the submitter and not lifted from elsewhere
From the "Terms and Conditions of Membership" (aka "forum policy"):
"5. You will not post any copyright material, unless you are the copyright owner or you have written consent from the copyright owner"
Alas, the only people/members that seem to have no problem with copyright material being stolen and posted elsewhere are those that don't really publish much in the way of recipes.
And those that think it's OK lack integrity, in my opinion, as the moral rights are (legally) assigned to the author.
Some members, hypocritically, have often labelled those that do such a thing as "scum" ???
But we are now retreading old ground (once again) ::)
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Whenever I read a "melting base" recipe it makes me laugh
It makes me laugh (or, more precisely, cringe) because I cannot, for the life of me, relate to onions "melting"! ???
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Some members, hypocritically, have often labelled those that do such a thing as "scum" ???
The hypocrisy, CA, is in claiming the moral highground while having no compunction at all in deliberately linking to a post that itself links to known copyright material. In the original poster's own words : " Curry Secret - EBook : Its back and available on the net for free [...] This is where the journey began a long time ago for many on the road to curry perfection, worth grabbing this whilst it is available for free". Do you seek to deny that you knew you were indirectly linking to an illicit copy of Kris Dhillon's The Curry Secret ?
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In the original poster's own words : " Curry Secret - EBook : Its back and available on the net for free [...] This is where the journey began a long time ago for many on the road to curry perfection, worth grabbing this whilst it is available for free"
Please don't link me with "in the original poster's words" (which was not me!) ::)
Nevertheless, this post is about a direct, verbatim, quoted recipe from RCR.
You know, I know, and George knows, that it is bound to create friction between members of both forums.
You (should know), and I know, and George (should) know, that quite a few members of this forum have, once again, gone over to RCR because of the recent "spats" on this forum (where George seems to have upset CBM with his continual negativity).
I don't know about you, but I would rather have CBM's input on this forum, rather than George's (and quite a few others here), any day!
At least CBM is actually trying to help others to recreate BIR curries at home! And has succeeded admirably in his endeavours! ::)
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The recipe given in the original post is about as generic as it gets for a madras. Search the web you'll find dozens of similar ones. It thus has no value and the subsequent posts are the usual, tiresome handbags-at-dawn shite we could well do without.
Also, if I were of a cynical bent, I might surmise that the whole purpose of the post (being the posters first on this board) was designed purposely to foment such pointless argument.
Delete the whole thread.
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I've been floating around on this forum and a couple of other ones and tried a few different recipes.
Eddy - Welcome to the forum. I must say I'm not critical of you for posting this Madras recipe, even if it is a bit 'controversial'. I say it makes a forum, or any other area of life, much better to have a few honest debates, rather than a bland environment where nobody ever disagrees (because dissent is ruthlessly stamped out). You'll already have seen that this forum is by far the largest and longest established, in its field, on the Internet. The more active members you have, the greater the chance that they won't all agree, all of the time. That's why there are a few arguments on this site, and it's one reason why the site is so good and free. I mean free from subscriptions and free from suppression of free speech.
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I'm all for allowing free debate George but when the only on-topic post in the thread is the first post and all subsequent ones are unrelated (i.e. to the topic of cooking a madras) it's time for some sensible moderation.
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Also, if I were of a cynical bent, I might surmise that the whole purpose of the post (being the posters first on this board) was designed purposely to foment such pointless argument.
But fortunately you are not of a cynical bent, and therefore you assume (as do I) that Eddy posted the recipe in good faith as a way of introducing himself to the forum. But even if you were of a cynical bent, you would surely recognise in Eddy's more recent :
O rite, I didn't consider copyright :o. I shall bear this in mind in future ;D
a clear indication of his good faith and therefore exonerate him of any suggestion of "purposely [seeking] to foment such pointless argument", would you not ?
** Phil.
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Please don't link me with "in the original poster's words" (which was not me!) ::)
I don't need to link you, CA : you linked yourself when you wrote
Check out the recipes here: http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=1652.0 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=1652.0)
without any word of condemnation (and indeed, with clear tacit approval). All I am seeking to do is to remind others of that fact because you now seek to take the moral highground, any right to which you abrogated in 2007 when you posted that link.
** Phil.
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Bloody hell looks like I kicked the hornets nest. I did not post this to antagonise anybody I was merely trying to share my experience of this recipe. I didn't realise that this forum was so political. ::)
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Bloody hell looks like I kicked the hornets nest. I did not post this to antagonise anybody I was merely trying to share my experience of this recipe.
I understand that Eddy, and I hope I did not come across as being negative. I for one appreciated you posting it, since I would never have read it in its original location.
** Phil.
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It was aimed at secret Santa phil ;)
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Bloody hell looks like I kicked the hornets nest. I did not post this to antagonise anybody I was merely trying to share my experience of this recipe. I didn't realise that this forum was so political. ::)
Don't worry about it Eddy. You can't be expected to know that the other forum was formed years ago by a member of cr0 who decided to create a rival forum and took a few cr0 members with him.
It happened years ago before I joined both forums. It was a long time before I read enough old posts to realise the history of cr0 and then rcr.
Most of us are not interested in forum wars, we just like to try to make decent curry.
Cheers
Paul
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without any word of condemnation (and indeed, with clear tacit approval). All I am seeking to do is to remind others of that fact because you now seek to take the moral highground, any right to which you abrogated in 2007 when you posted that link.
** Phil.
Bloomin eck Phil. We can all string a sentence together, but, as jim royle would say, abrogated, my arse. If CA said something back in 2007 and it still bothering you, a polite pm is the way forward, perhaps. Why do some of you guys keep sniping at each other? Tis also the festive season. It is quite funny at times though; a bit like being down the pub with my mates, but.
Rob :)
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If CA said something back in 2007 and it still bothering you, a polite pm is the way forward, perhaps.
It doesn't bother me in the least Rob. What /does/ bother me is the hypocrisy of referring a forum member to an illegal copy of the entire text of a copyright work and then slating a new member for posting a copy of a single message from another forum.
** Phil.
P.S. (Given that it is indeed the season of goodwill) : would you sooner read "abrogate" or "wanna", "gonna" and "ur" ? I know which I would prefer !
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and then slating a new member for posting a copy of a single message from another forum.
You really are a daft, pompous, bombastic, old b*gger Phil ::)
I did not "slate" Eddy in the slightest. I fully understand that he intended no malice, whatsoever, in his post!
If you got your head out of your ar*e, for just once, you'd see that I was saying that I believe George is wrong in his judgement that it is OK to leave Eddy's post here in order to deliberately cause trouble!!! :o
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Jeeez
Get a grip guys :)
This is a brilliant site with lots of useful information; but what is all this bickering about? This is my first post and I hope it won't be my last.
Cheers
RS
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I was saying that I believe George is wrong in his judgement that it is OK to leave Eddy's post here in order to deliberately cause trouble!!! :o
I believe you're wrong in using the word 'judgement'. It's not my decision, as you'd be the first to remind me, on whether to remove Eddy's post. I think it can only be a judgement if you're in a position to act on something. You'd be right that it's my opinion that it should be left in place.
Ringstinger - welcome to the forum. There's a mass of useful information here, and dozens of people to help you out AND some of us seem to enjoy heated debates from time to time. It's generally between some of us longer standing members. Don't let in bother you. Better that, than a sterile forum where there's no bother but a lot less going on as well.