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Title: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: h4ppy-chris on January 31, 2013, 08:57 PM
Meet chef sam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmpHnOWqRJY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmpHnOWqRJY)
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Post by: Whandsy on January 31, 2013, 09:32 PM
I think it would be wise to give a complete curry newbie a copy of your recipes to see if it can be achieved from your written instructions, if so its happy days, if not then it'll be just another curry book that people will think failed to deliver yet again!!

Good luck

W
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Post by: Secret Santa on January 31, 2013, 09:34 PM
We've got two threads going on exactly the same subject now! Confusion reigns.  :o
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on January 31, 2013, 09:43 PM
PH, beat me too it please delete this post
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Post by: emin-j on January 31, 2013, 10:15 PM
Excellent video Chris  ;) those curries look great  :P Butter Ghee by the look of it.
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Post by: George on February 01, 2013, 12:32 PM
Meet chef sam.

I agree with others -  it's a very good video, for several reasons, including:

- The clarity and standard of camerawork is better than most videos despite it not being HD.

- The chef works like a real pro and they should win an award (a real one, not the usual fake type) for the impressive standards of cleanliness and efficiency. The kitchen operates a bit like a modern factory production line.

Many thanks for posting it. My only suggestion would be for you to add text for ingredients and quantities, a bit like CBM and CT do.
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Post by: Willyeckerslike on February 01, 2013, 01:10 PM
A really good video, thanks for posting it 8)
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 01, 2013, 01:17 PM
Meet chef sam.

I agree with others -  it's a very good video, for several reasons, including:

- The clarity and standard of camerawork is better than most videos despite it not being HD.

- The chef works like a real pro and they should win an award (a real one, not the usual fake type) for the impressive standards of cleanliness and efficiency. The kitchen operates a bit like a modern factory production line.

Many thanks for posting it. My only suggestion would be for you to add text for ingredients and quantities, a bit like CBM and CT do.
Thanks George for your kind words. The book will have links to private videos, some filmed in the TA, some in my home.
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Post by: solarsplace on February 01, 2013, 01:26 PM
Hi h4ppy-chris

Splendid video - thanks for posting!

Very enjoyable watch indeed. Sam really gives it some 'welly' on those burners  8) and seems like a very helpful chap indeed.

I was a little sceptical initially regarding the book idea - but I must confess now to being rather excited about it and will almost certainly be buying a copy.

Good luck and looking forward to the finished product.

Regards
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Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 01, 2013, 01:40 PM
Excellent video Chris  ;) those curries look great  :P Butter Ghee by the look of it.

About 6 minutes or so in the chef says it's veg ghee, adding: "It does the same job as veg oil but tastes different."

As others have said, great video, and great looking curries that make the most of simple spicing (a healthy tablespoon of mix powder and a teaspoon of chilli powder, unless my eyes deceived me).

Looking forward to seeing some more from this kitchen!

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Post by: Kashmiri Bob on February 01, 2013, 01:53 PM
Echo previous comments.  Great footage Chris!  Very much looking forward to the book.  Any idea when it will be ready?  No rush like, take your time.

Rob  :)
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Post by: Secret Santa on February 01, 2013, 02:15 PM
For those who are saying this video is marvellous - why?

What is it that it's showing you that we haven't seen done a dozen times before? There's nothing new here.

And before anyone goes off on one, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I am asking a genuine question because I just don't see what's so special about the video.
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Post by: Secret Santa on February 01, 2013, 02:19 PM
About 6 minutes or so in the chef says it's veg ghee, adding: "It does the same job as veg oil but tastes different."

Except it doesn't. I've tried making two identical curries (madras), one with veg oil and one with veg ghee; the end results were identical.
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Post by: RubyDoo on February 01, 2013, 02:48 PM
Notwithstanding SS's comment I actually really liked this video but cannot put my finger on exactly why  ;)

Yes just another guy on another conveyor belt of spicy loveliness ( Nigellaesk? ). Not sure about all that veg ghee though.

Questions  _ why is it that these places never look 'splattered' ? I do one dish on a reasonable heat and even with the splatter guard deployed I still get it up the back wall and the hob always needs a strip down after my regular Saturday morning efforts.

Further, what are those pans? They look the mutt's nuts to me. Cheap, basic but fit for purpose obviously. Compared to my Sonex pans they are not only deeper but are more straight sided. Look easier to use? Any ideas anybody? Would like to try one. Also they seem to appear from nowhere, already cleaned and ready to go. Magic pans?  ;)
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Post by: DalPuri on February 01, 2013, 03:30 PM
For those who are saying this video is marvellous - why?

What is it that it's showing you that we haven't seen done a dozen times before? There's nothing new here.

And before anyone goes off on one, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I am asking a genuine question because I just don't see what's so special about the video.

Its not what he'd doing SS, as like you said, we've seen it all before.
Its the chef himself. Confident, looking to camera(although i think thats because Chris is holding it at eye level  :P) and offering advice and tips without being prompted or simply repeating what the interviewer has just said.
Most Indian chefs are quite shy so you dont get that interaction.  This guy has a TV chef thing about him.
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 01, 2013, 03:48 PM
For those who are saying this video is marvellous - why?

What is it that it's showing you that we haven't seen done a dozen times before? There's nothing new here.

And before anyone goes off on one, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I am asking a genuine question because I just don't see what's so special about the video.

I put the video out so you people could see the guy that i am working with. Nothing more nothing less.
I for one, love to watch any chef that knows is stuff. Good question SS.
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Post by: RubyDoo on February 01, 2013, 03:54 PM
For those who are saying this video is marvellous - why?

What is it that it's showing you that we haven't seen done a dozen times before? There's nothing new here.

And before anyone goes off on one, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I am asking a genuine question because I just don't see what's so special about the video.

I put the video out so you people could see the guy that i am working with. Nothing more nothing less.
I for one, love to watch any chef that knows is stuff. Good question SS.
Can you shed any light on the pans Chris?
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 01, 2013, 04:03 PM
For those who are saying this video is marvellous - why?

What is it that it's showing you that we haven't seen done a dozen times before? There's nothing new here.

And before anyone goes off on one, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I am asking a genuine question because I just don't see what's so special about the video.


I put the video out so you people could see the guy that i am working with. Nothing more nothing less.
I for one, love to watch any chef that knows is stuff. Good question SS.
Can you shed any light on the pans Chris?

I will ask him for you mate.
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Post by: chef888 on February 01, 2013, 04:09 PM
great vid  chris mate very  nicely shot ( ivan )
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Post by: RubyDoo on February 01, 2013, 04:13 PM
For those who are saying this video is marvellous - why?

What is it that it's showing you that we haven't seen done a dozen times before? There's nothing new here.

And before anyone goes off on one, I'm not trying to start a flame war. I am asking a genuine question because I just don't see what's so special about the video.


I put the video out so you people could see the guy that i am working with. Nothing more nothing less.
I for one, love to watch any chef that knows is stuff. Good question SS.
Can you shed any light on the pans Chris?

I will ask him for you mate.

Thank you
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Post by: DalPuri on February 01, 2013, 04:13 PM
Can you shed any light on the pans Chris?

I'm sure ive posted this before but you can get a deep pan similar to that from dadibhais.

http://dadibhais.com/index.php/kitchen/cookware/stainless-steel-cookware/genware-sauteuse-2-8ltr-24cm.html (http://dadibhais.com/index.php/kitchen/cookware/stainless-steel-cookware/genware-sauteuse-2-8ltr-24cm.html)

The Genware sauteuse pans look at lot sturdier too although made from stainless which isn't the best for high heat short order cooking.
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Post by: RubyDoo on February 01, 2013, 04:16 PM
Can you shed any light on the pans Chris?

I'm sure ive posted this before but you can get a deep pan similar to that from dadibhais.

http://dadibhais.com/index.php/kitchen/cookware/stainless-steel-cookware/genware-sauteuse-2-8ltr-24cm.html (http://dadibhais.com/index.php/kitchen/cookware/stainless-steel-cookware/genware-sauteuse-2-8ltr-24cm.html)

The Genware sauteuse pans look at lot sturdier too although made from stainless which isn't the best for high heat short order cooking.
Ta will look. The Genware are a no no for the reasons you stated.
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Post by: DalPuri on February 01, 2013, 04:27 PM
I just love the shape of them Ruby.  :)

The other alternative is a 10" wok.   Round bottom would be my preference  ;)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-FLAT-BASED-CARBON-STEEL-WOK-COMMERCIAL-QUALITY-/261154203112?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Kitchen_Cookware_GL&hash=item3cce00e5e8 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-FLAT-BASED-CARBON-STEEL-WOK-COMMERCIAL-QUALITY-/261154203112?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Kitchen_Cookware_GL&hash=item3cce00e5e8)

http://www.chefline.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=wok (http://www.chefline.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=wok)
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Post by: RubyDoo on February 01, 2013, 04:31 PM
I just love the shape of them Ruby.  :)

The other alternative is a 10" wok.   Round bottom would be my preference  ;)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-FLAT-BASED-CARBON-STEEL-WOK-COMMERCIAL-QUALITY-/261154203112?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Kitchen_Cookware_GL&hash=item3cce00e5e8 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-FLAT-BASED-CARBON-STEEL-WOK-COMMERCIAL-QUALITY-/261154203112?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Kitchen_Cookware_GL&hash=item3cce00e5e8)

http://www.chefline.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=wok (http://www.chefline.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=wok)

Yep. Like those too but not as much as the ones in the vid  :)
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Post by: Garabi Army on February 01, 2013, 04:55 PM
Watching Sam work is an artform. I've watched many videos of BIR chefs in action, also videos of a few forum members, and not many are as fluent and confident as him.
I reckon the 'secret' everyone yearns for is right there in that video; method, timing, and cooking on a furnace. How many of us get to cook on heat that severe.
Thanks for sharing this Chris.
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Post by: Secret Santa on February 01, 2013, 05:05 PM
Watching Sam work is an artform. I've watched many videos of BIR chefs in action, also videos of a few forum members, and not many are as fluent and confident as him.

I'll give you that, he is certainly practised at his art.

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I reckon the 'secret' everyone yearns for is right there in that video; method, timing, and cooking on a furnace. How many of us get to cook on heat that severe.

That's why I'm getting nothing new from the video, I've been cooking like this for years. HC, I do hope the new secrets are in the ingredients because if it's all about the technique I don't see anything new here.

Mind, I do like the pans though!  ;D
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 01, 2013, 05:26 PM
If the key was in the video, do you think i would of put it on youtube?  ;D
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Post by: harley on February 01, 2013, 06:39 PM
Love the pans.

The high sides would be ideal for me when I have to do a large portion split between 3 people. My pan only just manages it and can get a little messy sometimes even using a splatter guard.
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Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 01, 2013, 07:09 PM
I've been trying to resist the urges as I already have more pans than I know what to do with, but it's no good - resistance is futile, etc. I HAVE to have at least one of those sexy high-sided models!

If chef can shed any light on where he gets them, it would be much appreciated, HC.

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Post by: RubyDoo on February 01, 2013, 07:40 PM
I was 1st on the pan request  :)
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Post by: jb on February 01, 2013, 07:50 PM
I did say to myself I wouldn't buy any more curry books but I have to get this one.The video doesn't show anything we haven't seen already I agree but I still like watching them.I'm still intrigued what the magic technique we've been missing but all will be revealed soon hopefully.
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Post by: George on February 01, 2013, 08:16 PM
If the key was in the video, do you think i would of put it on youtube?  ;D

At least you're being honest. I wonder how many other BIR cooking videos that applies to on youtube, especially in the case of 'staged demos' where they might hide even more.
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Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 01, 2013, 08:28 PM
I was 1st on the pan request  :)
]]

 I'll just have to take sloppy seconds then!
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Post by: Garabi Army on February 01, 2013, 10:47 PM
This is about the pan; I want one!
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Post by: chewytikka on February 02, 2013, 12:21 AM
Good watch HC

High sided pans, ;D ;D ;D   Daft as a brush some of you guys.

The aspect ratio is wrong on this vid its 480x360 and it should be wider at 640x360
so the footage has been squeezed inward which makes everything look taller and thinner.
 
The pans are just normal 24cm Ali omelette pans, any Asian store
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Post by: Garabi Army on February 02, 2013, 08:12 AM

High sided pans, ;D ;D ;D   Daft as a brush some of you guys.

The aspect ratio is wrong on this vid its 480x360 and it should be wider at 640x360
so the footage has been squeezed inward which makes everything look taller and thinner.
 

Well spotted CT  8) , ... of course, I knew all along  ::)
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Post by: RubyDoo on February 02, 2013, 08:37 AM
Well I wish somebody would come and squeeze my aspect ratio  :o
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Post by: harley on February 02, 2013, 09:30 AM
Damn, chewy has ruined it.

(http://uppix.net/c/3/6/ca12ebec9d0c310b398a46ea41177.jpg)
Chef: "It's just a normal pan guys"
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Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 02, 2013, 09:51 AM

High sided pans, ;D ;D ;D   Daft as a brush some of you guys.

The aspect ratio is wrong on this vid its 480x360 and it should be wider at 640x360
so the footage has been squeezed inward which makes everything look taller and thinner.
 

Well spotted CT  8) , ... of course, I knew all along  ::)

Errr... Ahem... me too!  ;) :o ::) High-sided pans indeed! What were some of you thinking!?  ;) ;D
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Post by: Naga on February 02, 2013, 10:05 AM
...Daft as a brush some of you guys.

Nice one, CT! :D And you're bang on with the rest of your post too.
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Post by: Secret Santa on February 02, 2013, 10:25 AM
The aspect ratio is wrong on this vid its 480x360 and it should be wider at 640x360
so the footage has been squeezed inward which makes everything look taller and thinner.

No Mate.

The vertical resolution is the same in both videos so the vertical dimensions stay the same, it's just narrower; so the height is exactly as it looks in the video. Now who's daft as a brush?  ;D
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Post by: harley on February 02, 2013, 11:26 AM
squashed ratio
(http://uppix.net/d/5/3/4387ea86ff431476bc4c7d9b1df48.jpg)

reality
(http://uppix.net/e/4/e/07f4df24fb10702d055ef9a03e044.jpg)

(http://uppix.net/7/9/f/9cc8f2d4f66dc049e2fbab4486298.jpg)
(http://uppix.net/9/c/c/636a6f9b98b94f6618e21f26d9dab.jpg)
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Post by: Micky Tikka on February 02, 2013, 11:32 AM
The chef must be a Oompa Loompa
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Post by: JerryM on February 02, 2013, 11:59 AM
another top notch post from H4ppy-chris.

watching BIR chefs for me is almost as good as football. Sam is clearly premier league and bodes well for future learning of the BIR art.

forget the pans.

there is a difference in ghee and oil but that's not important.

look's as if there was a little chopped red pepper in the chopped onion.

would love to know what was in the small tin behind the gravy which was added to 1 dish at ~9 mins.

for me - i tend to aim to stop the flames and need to try Sam's swishing to see if there's more to be gained in the flames - to date i would say no.

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Post by: Secret Santa on February 02, 2013, 12:18 PM
there is a difference in ghee and oil but that's not important.

What is that difference Jerry? It certainly isn't flavour because I've done side by side tests. The only difference I find is that veg ghee is far more expensive.
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Post by: JerryM on February 02, 2013, 12:28 PM
Secret Santa,

sorry i should of been clearer - oil for me in curry is always reclaimed from the base not fresh veg oil.

saying that - i've heated reclaimed oil, veg ghee and butter separately as part of my garlic frying trials. the butter and reclaimed oil seem to be more tolerant in after taste than v.ghee - the v.ghee after heating to smoking point seems to have a "processed" after taste. butter has a lower burn point and even easier to spoil the taste of.

the only place for v.ghee for me is in the base.

butter ghee - i've not tried for a long time - the taste is too overpowering for me.

i suspect that a mix is used in "v.ghee" BIR's. i also know some BIR's only use oil from the top of the gravy.
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 02, 2013, 01:46 PM


would love to know what was in the small tin behind the gravy which was added to 1 dish at ~9 mins.



spiced Oil Jerry.
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 02, 2013, 01:51 PM
Good watch HC

High sided pans, ;D ;D ;D   Daft as a brush some of you guys.

The aspect ratio is wrong on this vid its 480x360 and it should be wider at 640x360
so the footage has been squeezed inward which makes everything look taller and thinner.
 
The pans are just normal 24cm Ali omelette pans, any Asian store
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Post by: emin-j on February 02, 2013, 02:39 PM
Chris,can you confirm it is veg ghee and not butter ghee the chef is using, I hear you say veg ghee but the chef only say 'ghee',it looks to moist and colourful for veg ghee  :-\
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 02, 2013, 06:27 PM
Chris,can you confirm it is veg ghee and not butter ghee the chef is using, I hear you say veg ghee but the chef only say 'ghee',it looks to moist and colourful for veg ghee  :-\

Veg ghee, mate.
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Post by: Peripatetic Phil on February 02, 2013, 07:14 PM
Now digitally re-mastered to correct the aspect ratio (Chris, let me know if you would like me to send you the full-size re-mastered version via Dropbox).  Password is Chris's username on this site.

https://vimeo.com/58778799

** Phil.
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Post by: curryhell on February 02, 2013, 07:56 PM
Nice one Phil.  My new pan is identical  ::)
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 02, 2013, 08:06 PM
Very good that vid Phil  ;)
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 03, 2013, 04:06 PM
Good watch HC


The aspect ratio is wrong on this vid its 480x360 and it should be wider at 640x360
so the footage has been squeezed inward which makes everything look taller and thinner.
 

Thank you very much Chewy, because you brought this up made me look-in to my videos.
Up until now they have been all wrong  >:( But now, thanks to you and Phil my videos should be spot on.  :) :) :) :) I thought the wife looked thin on videos.  ;D
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Post by: JerryM on February 03, 2013, 08:28 PM
h4ppy-chris,

many thanks for clarifying the tin. probably not easy to get an answer but your gut feel : was it made or from base or scooped off cooked dishes
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Post by: Malc. on February 03, 2013, 09:22 PM
I thought the wife looked thin on videos.  ;D

Are you saying she now looks fat?! :P
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Post by: goncalo on February 04, 2013, 12:18 AM
h4ppy-chris,

many thanks for clarifying the tin. probably not easy to get an answer but your gut feel : was it made or from base or scooped off cooked dishes

Ditto.
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 04, 2013, 10:33 AM
h4ppy-chris,

many thanks for clarifying the tin. probably not easy to get an answer but your gut feel : was it made or from base or scooped off cooked dishes

The spiced oil is made Jerry, how to make it will be in the Ebook. The spiced oil as never seen a curry, base gravy or onion bhaji.
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Post by: Whandsy on February 04, 2013, 10:54 AM
The spiced oil is made Jerry, how to make it will be in the Ebook. The spiced oil as never seen a curry, base gravy or onion bhaji.

What sort of time frame are you thinking about for the ebook Chris? Lots of intrigued people I'm sure. ???

W
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 04, 2013, 12:54 PM
The spiced oil is made Jerry, how to make it will be in the Ebook. The spiced oil as never seen a curry, base gravy or onion bhaji.

What sort of time frame are you thinking about for the ebook Chris? Lots of intrigued people I'm sure. ???

W

6 to 8 weeks, i have a lot video and recipes to sort out, i am working hard on it for you.
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Post by: Kashmiri Bob on February 04, 2013, 02:56 PM
The spiced oil is made Jerry, how to make it will be in the Ebook. The spiced oil as never seen a curry, base gravy or onion bhaji.

What sort of time frame are you thinking about for the ebook Chris? Lots of intrigued people I'm sure. ???

W

6 to 8 weeks, i have a lot video and recipes to sort out, i am working hard on it for you.

Excellent news Chris.  Here's hoping UB's naan recipe will be ready soon as well.  Happy days!

Rob  :) 
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Post by: JerryM on February 04, 2013, 06:27 PM
H4ppy-chris,

many thanks for clarification on the oil method.

a cautious best wishes on the ebook - so many before have promised but only delivered in part. if your's completes the picture then all will very happy.

fingers crossed.
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Post by: Dajoca on February 06, 2013, 01:05 AM
Good luck with all the work on the book Chris. I look forward to getting my grubby mitts on the finished result.
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Post by: BIR-TY on February 06, 2013, 06:54 AM

a cautious best wishes on the ebook - so many before have promised but only delivered in part. if your's completes the picture then all will very happy.

fingers crossed.

I agree, a cautious best wishes, no doubt to some you may well give them that bit extra they're looking for.
Other publications may have done the same for some. I think it's too much of a sweeping statement to say that some publications have not delivered all to some.
Bert
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Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 06, 2013, 10:18 AM

a cautious best wishes on the ebook - so many before have promised but only delivered in part. if your's completes the picture then all will very happy.

fingers crossed.

I agree, a cautious best wishes, no doubt to some you may well give them that bit extra they're looking for.
Other publications may have done the same for some. I think it's too much of a sweeping statement to say that some publications have not delivered all to some.
Bert

Best wishes from me, too.

My own experience over my 30+ years curry journey has been that, while no one book has given me everything, I honestly haven't expected that to happen. And I hope it never does.

Apart from it being an impossibility (due to the mind-boggling number of permutations involving different personal preferences, different BIR styles, etc., etc), for me part of the joy of cooking is in finding new gems of information in different books, and occasionally having one of those amazing 'eureka' moments.

My BIR cooking today is very much a fusion of a little bit of this and a little bit of that (picked up from manifold sources), underpinned by a few very sound, tried and tested principles that are common to the art. I'm sure it's the same for many here.

So, while I know full well that HC's forthcoming book won't 'deliver all' (because no book can), I'm nevertheless excited about buying it because it will no doubt give me another gem - another piece of the infinite jigsaw that is BIR cookery.

And if it doesn't, well I won't be too upset. I'll happily add it to my extensive collection of cookery books, try out the recipes, and will enjoy watching the videos.

Anyway, as said, all the best of luck with it, HC, and I hope that you enjoy putting it together.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: goncalo on February 06, 2013, 11:33 AM
My BIR cooking today is very much a fusion of a little bit of this and a little bit of that (picked up from manifold sources), underpinned by a few very sound, tried and tested principles that are common to the art. I'm sure it's the same for many here.

My thoughts exactly. What I'm enjoying from cooking this style of food, is the complexity and the infinite chase for more information and for personal improvement in the art of BIR cooking and the sudden epiphanies that it brings with whenever you seem to make some progress and the obvious satisfaction of eating something that pleases you.

I have 3 books to date on BIR: KD1, C2G and CBM. I have used and read C2G's extensively and used a good number of his recipes. KD1 was offered to me as a "leaving gift" from my work colleagues in Cambridge on my last day. I never felt tempted to even try any of her recipes, I got the book before I came across cr0 and was suspicious about the quality of the recipes at the time. I got CBM yesterday and all the main recipes have similarities with C2G and the ones in this forum, but I'm going to try do everything by the book tonight (plan is: base+jalfrezi+pilau+red massala+tikka) - neither of these books are complete, but all of them seem quite useful and nevertheless even if I never manage to find the "definite BIR flavour/smell" I can be proud that I have improved my cooking abbility and can make reasonably tasty/spicy food now.
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Post by: Peripatetic Phil on February 06, 2013, 11:55 AM
KD1 was offered to me as a "leaving gift" from my work colleagues in Cambridge on my last day. I never felt tempted to even try any of her recipes, I got the book before I came across cr0 and was suspicious about the quality of the recipes at the time.

Very different to my own reaction, and subsequent behaviour.  I can no longer remember how I learned of the book's existence, but I bought my first copy (yes, I now have several !) with excitement and anticipation, and was ecstatic at my first attempt at a Chicken Madras.  After maybe 40 years of complete and utter failure at producing even an /acceptable/ curry (let alone a BIR taste-alike), KD1 was for me the Book of Revelations.  With the benefit of experience I modified Kris's recipes (doubling the quantity of spices and -- for some time -- doubling the volume of base, so there was actually four times the quantity of spices per unit weight of chicken), and I still use the modified versions today (sometimes substituting Bassar curry masala for ground chillies).  Her methodology is so different to that commonly advocated today, where the spices inevitably have to be bhooned, if not near-cremated, that it is remarkable how both methods can give such similar results.  But similar they most certainly are, and if you have not yet tried KD1 then I think you should do so : you may be very pleasantly surprised at the results that can be achieved.

** Phil.
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Post by: George on February 06, 2013, 12:10 PM
book won't 'deliver all' (because no book can)

I disagree that it's not possible for a book to deliver high quality results. It depends on whether (a) the author really does have great recipes and (b) whether the author is prepared to pass those recipes on, accurately.

Think about some of the best curry dishes you've ever had in an Indian restaurant anywhere. Would it be possible to write down those recipes to repeat them? Of course! Easy. But nobody so far has met my criteria (a) and (b) above. I doubt if that situation will change any time soon.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: goncalo on February 06, 2013, 12:11 PM
KD1 was offered to me as a "leaving gift" from my work colleagues in Cambridge on my last day. I never felt tempted to even try any of her recipes, I got the book before I came across cr0 and was suspicious about the quality of the recipes at the time.

Very different to my own reaction, and subsequent behaviour.  I can no longer remember how I learned of the book's existence, but I bought my first copy (yes, I now have several !) with excitement and anticipation, and was ecstatic at my first attempt at a Chicken Madras.  After maybe 40 years of complete and utter failure at producing even an /acceptable/ curry (let alone a BIR taste-alike), KD1 was for me the Book of Revelations.  With the benefit of experience I modified Kris's recipes (doubling the quantity of spices and -- for some time -- doubling the volume of base, so there was actually four times the quantity of spices per unit weight of chicken), and I still use the modified versions today (sometimes substituting Bassar curry masala for ground chillies).  Her method is so different to that commonly advocated today, where the spices inevitably have to be bhooned, if not near-cremated, that it is remarkable how both methods can give such similar results.  But similar they most certainly are, and if you have not yet tried KD1 then I think you should do so : you may be very surprised at the results that can be achieved.

Thanks for the advice Phil! I have since changed my mind about it, it's just that as of late I have been sticking to safe options and "what works". I plan on doing CBM next because of comments I heard on the his jalfrezi and bombay aloo, but KD1 will be following it closely!

Goncalo
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on February 06, 2013, 12:23 PM
Think about some of the best curry dishes you've ever had in an Indian restaurant anywhere. Would it be possible to write down those recipes to repeat them? Of course! Easy. But nobody so far has met my criteria (a) and (b) above. I doubt if that situation will change any time soon.

I have little doubt that Michel Roux, or Raymond Blanc jr., or any other great French chef, could write down their recipes and methodology with 100% accuracy and precision.  But if that recipe and methodology were then tried, using solely the written description, by (let us say) 1000 people, I doubt whether more than 50 would be regarded by Messrs Roux, Blanc, etc., as even passable, and fewer than five would be told that, if they perservered, they might one day be able to replicate the dish.

It is not the description, George : it is the experience and the insight that comes from experience.  They have it, we do not.

** Phil.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: Salvador Dhali on February 06, 2013, 12:36 PM
book won't 'deliver all' (because no book can)
I disagree that it's not possible for a book to deliver high quality results. It depends on whether (a) the author really does have great recipes and (b) whether the author is prepared to pass those recipes on, accurately.

I didn't say anything about it not being possible for a book to deliver high quality results, George. I said that it isn't possible for one cookery book to "deliver all" (quoting the poster before me).

This applies to ALL cusines, whether Indian, French, Italian - whatever. 

No one book can tell you everything, because no one author or chef knows everything.

Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 07, 2013, 11:53 PM
sorry i have not been here.
I am working flat out here to get this book out to you guys. the book will be called.

unlocking the taste to Indian takeaway.

Its late now, tomorrow i will tell you what you will get from this book.
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Post by: spiceyokooko on February 08, 2013, 12:32 AM
I disagree that it's not possible for a book to deliver high quality results. It depends on whether (a) the author really does have great recipes and (b) whether the author is prepared to pass those recipes on, accurately.

I agree.

You can see that from many of the recipes posted on this site. Mostly they're just ingredient lists, they're not recipes, because they don't tell you how to make the dish, merely what ingredients and what quantities of those ingredients go into making it. An ingredient list isn't a recipe and that's why people get such variable results.

How many here really know how to make a simple roux as used in Cajun and Creole cooking? The recipe list is simple - it's equal quantities of fat and flour, but that doesn't tell you how to make it or what different colours there are or what flavours they impart. Likewise a simple bechamel sauce, that's just as simple, it's a roux with warm milk, but making a good bechamel sauce is not easy.

People seem to think all the magic is in the ingredients. It isn't, the ingredient list is the easiest part of the recipe. It's imparting the knowledge and information as to what you do with those ingredients that's the hard part and that's the part so many people either don't bother with or don't explain properly.

I'd actually like to see a book on BIR cookery that focuses almost soley on the cookery techniques in some detail and deliberately only includes a couple of basic recipes to practice those techniques on. Once the fundamental techniques are mastered they can be adapted with equal success to any BIR style recipe you want. But if you can't master or don't understand the basic underlying techniques, it doesn't really matter what recipe you use, it won't be particularly successful.



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Post by: colin grigson on February 08, 2013, 01:43 PM
Wise words spiceyokoko   :)
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Post by: goncalo on February 08, 2013, 03:02 PM
Wise words spiceyokoko   :)

+1
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: _Jon_ on February 09, 2013, 11:19 PM

People seem to think all the magic is in the ingredients. It isn't, the ingredient list is the easiest part of the recipe. It's imparting the knowledge and information as to what you do with those ingredients that's the hard part and that's the part so many people either don't bother with or don't explain properly.

This is 100% correct.

h4ppy-chris, do you have any videos that just keep the pan in frame, as large as possible, for the whole time? As in from the moment the ghee goes in to the pan up to the point where the dish is ready. That would be really useful.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: Cory Ander on February 10, 2013, 01:37 PM
sorry i have not been here.
I am working flat out here to get this book out to you guys

Does that mean that it will be available, to our forum members, for free, then Chris?
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 10, 2013, 02:03 PM

People seem to think all the magic is in the ingredients. It isn't, the ingredient list is the easiest part of the recipe. It's imparting the knowledge and information as to what you do with those ingredients that's the hard part and that's the part so many people either don't bother with or don't explain properly.

This is 100% correct.

h4ppy-chris, do you have any videos that just keep the pan in frame, as large as possible, for the whole time? As in from the moment the ghee goes in to the pan up to the point where the dish is ready. That would be really useful.

Yes Jon.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 10, 2013, 02:04 PM
sorry i have not been here.
I am working flat out here to get this book out to you guys

Does that mean that it will be available, to our forum members, for free, then Chris?

No sorry CA.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: Cory Ander on February 10, 2013, 02:07 PM
No sorry CA.

Then, you are doing it for yourself, and not for "you guys". 

And CT is correct, you REALLY should change the foot note to your avatar  ::)
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: sp on February 10, 2013, 02:17 PM
A bit harsh CA?  Giving knowledge doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with altruism.  What's the old saying about giving a man a fish and feeding him for a day?  A businessman will charge for the fishing rod  ;D
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 10, 2013, 02:23 PM
No sorry CA.

Then, you are doing it for yourself, and not for "you guys". 

And CT is correct, you REALLY should change the foot note to your avatar  ::)

If that's the way you feel CA that's fine.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: Cory Ander on February 10, 2013, 02:26 PM
A bit harsh CA?

I don't think it is a bit harsh at all!

So many people on this forum willingly give their information for free (to help other members...which, as far as I can tell, is what this forum is all about).  AND they don't put that sort of footnote on their avatar!  :-X

Personally (and it IS my personal opinion), I do not believe this forum is a place for people to submit silly innuendos in order to market their wares for their own personal gain.
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Post by: sp on February 10, 2013, 02:31 PM
On reflection that footnote does come across as a bit conceited... sorry Chris
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 10, 2013, 02:39 PM
All Happy now.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: Cory Ander on February 10, 2013, 02:41 PM
All Happy now.

Not really, perhaps you can add the footnote "those that are truly knowledgeable will not share it but will charge for it"?  ::)
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: sp on February 10, 2013, 02:46 PM
I don't see the problem in charging a reasonable sum for the information; it would be lovely if it were free but someone has to give up their precious time to do it for us and possibly have paid in some way for this information originally so why can't they recoup their outlay and make a couple of pounds on top?  Just my opinion of course
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: Cory Ander on February 10, 2013, 02:52 PM
It is your opinion, SP, and that's fair enough. And I accept that.

But, as I said, this forum (in my opinion) is about freely sharing information with other members of this forum.  Many people readily do that, for no financial gain, whatsoever.  AND they don't put footnotes to their avatar proclaiming it! 

And then post innuendos and appear to be intent on doing otherwise...
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: JerryM on February 10, 2013, 06:33 PM
it's quite surprising the various "needs" of members.

what i'm getting at is that any book needs to deliver on whatever it promises - simple as that.

of all the books i've heard of (and certainly not bought) there is always a caveat suggesting "style" or "home" when restaurant is what we crave for nothing less. i suppose it's buyer beware.

i'd love to be proved wrong but i just can't see h4ppy-chris book delivering something we don't already know.

i base this on the quality of the BIR dishes i produce - not from books only from this forum. all anyone needs is here already. yes i still have much to learn of BIR but i'm well passed my original objective.

i do wish h4ppy-chris the very best with the book (i like the guy and if he can make money out of his efforts then great - just don't con the membership if something is not going to deliver - the jury is out and as i said earlier fingers are crossed - having been disappointed in the past i'm just very weary that the grass is portrayed as greener when it never is.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: h4ppy-chris on February 13, 2013, 01:38 AM
it's quite surprising the various "needs" of members.

Yes " i am a member" and my "needs" was the need to know.

what i'm getting at is that any book needs to deliver on whatever it promises - simple as that.

It will, why would i spend my time to do it? just to put out another book saying the same old thing? NO!

of all the books i've heard of (and certainly not bought) there is always a caveat suggesting "style" or "home" when restaurant is what we crave for nothing less. i suppose it's buyer beware.

The book is based on takeaway.

i'd love to be proved wrong but i just can't see h4ppy-chris book delivering something we don't already know.

You have all the pieces on this forum, in one way or another! You will see from the book!

i base this on the quality of the BIR dishes i produce - not from books only from this forum. all anyone needs is here already. yes i still have much to learn of BIR but i'm well passed my original objective.

i do wish h4ppy-chris the very best with the book (i like the guy and if he can make money out of his efforts then
great - just don't con the membership if something is not going to deliver I WILL NOT - the jury is out and as i said earlier fingers are crossed - having been disappointed in the past i'm just very weary that the grass is portrayed as greener when it never is.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: uclown2002 on February 13, 2013, 08:45 PM
Have you settled on a price for the e-book yet?
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Post by: gazman1976 on August 21, 2013, 07:36 PM
Meet chef sam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmpHnOWqRJY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmpHnOWqRJY)

Nearly 7 months and still no Ebook? and you don't work either? Damn this book must be massive whenever you do release it lol
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: Geezah on August 21, 2013, 08:18 PM
Give the guy a break!

I don't see you add as much to this forum as Chris, other than your criticism & snide remarks.

I appreciate Chris's input here and I look forward to the book regardless of how long it takes.
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Post by: rshome123 on August 21, 2013, 08:29 PM
Give the guy a break!

I don't see you add as much to this forum as Chris, other than your criticism & snide remarks.

I appreciate Chris's input here and I look forward to the book regardless of how long it takes.

Well said Geezah.  I second your comments.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: gazman1976 on August 21, 2013, 08:51 PM
you can second and third them all you like, the guy is (moderated) and there will be no breakthrough or E-book
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: Graeme on August 21, 2013, 10:24 PM
To be fair Chris in the past has done his fair share of winding people up.

I suggest you look back at his posts when he was having more than a few
goes at some people himself.











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Post by: Geezah on August 21, 2013, 11:11 PM
To be fair Chris in the past has done his fair share of winding people up.

I suggest you look back at his posts when he was having more than a few
goes at some people himself.

I have indeed seen rants from lots of people, I just think that Chris is the new target for the stirrers that want to see action in these forums.
 If you want action, brave up aand post a recipe video as Chris does ?????
We will all be ready to slate support you
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: George on August 21, 2013, 11:45 PM
Chris - would it be possible for you to post a provisional contents page for your ebook, including a list of recipes? It might help us understand how much work is involved, and potentially increase the level of interest.
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Post by: loveitspicy on August 22, 2013, 02:04 PM
George
That is a great suggestion -

best, Rich
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Post by: gazman1976 on August 22, 2013, 03:45 PM
Yes George that is a great suggestion, I suspect we wont be seeing anything like that though
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Post by: madstwatter on August 22, 2013, 09:28 PM
Yes George that is a great suggestion, I suspect we wont be seeing anything like that though

What's your problem? If you think Chris is talking a load of rubbish and won't produce the ebook then that is your opinion, but stop winding the bloke up with comments designed to get a reaction out of him. It is becoming very childish.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: gazman1976 on August 22, 2013, 09:55 PM
Yes George that is a great suggestion, I suspect we wont be seeing anything like that though

What's your problem? If you think Chris is talking a load of rubbish and won't produce the ebook then that is your opinion, but stop winding the bloke up with comments designed to get a reaction out of him. It is becoming very childish.

Yes and you took the time to respond to a post that has nothing to do with yourself, well done. Chris said over 8 weeks ago now the book would be here in 6 weeks, I am proving my point and yes my opinion that there will be no such E-Book, he took the time to reply about his Kebabs but has body swerved this issue from several people now
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on August 22, 2013, 10:08 PM
Yes George that is a great suggestion, I suspect we wont be seeing anything like that though

What's your problem? If you think Chris is talking a load of rubbish and won't produce the ebook then that is your opinion, but stop winding the bloke up with comments designed to get a reaction out of him. It is becoming very childish.
Thanks for the support mate. But don't feed the troll.
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Post by: Graeme on August 22, 2013, 10:28 PM
I have better things to do.
I am out of this thread.










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Post by: h4ppy-chris on August 22, 2013, 10:32 PM
Chris - would it be possible for you to post a provisional contents page for your ebook, including a list of recipes? It might help us understand how much work is involved, and potentially increase the level of interest.

Do I need to I asked my self? What do you think I came to?
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: gazman1976 on August 22, 2013, 10:37 PM
Chris - would it be possible for you to post a provisional contents page for your ebook, including a list of recipes? It might help us understand how much work is involved, and potentially increase the level of interest.

Do I need to I asked my self? What do you think I came to?

Obviously not cause there is no E-Book, now trot along
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on August 22, 2013, 10:39 PM
 ;)
Chris - would it be possible for you to post a provisional contents page for your ebook, including a list of recipes? It might help us understand how much work is involved, and potentially increase the level of interest.

Do I need to I asked my self? What do you think I came to?

Obviously not cause there is no E-Book, now trot along
;D
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: George on August 22, 2013, 10:49 PM
Chris - would it be possible for you to post a provisional contents page for your ebook, including a list of recipes? It might help us understand how much work is involved, and potentially increase the level of interest.

Do I need to I asked my self? What do you think I came to?

Thanks for your response but I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean to say:

"Do I need to post a provisional contents page here on this forum? What decision do you think I came to?"

If that's what you mean, I assume you don't like the idea. But why not? I intended it as a well-meant suggestion to help raise your credibility. You wouldn't be giving away any secrets - just a provisional contents page with a list of recipes. If you can't do that, I'm sorry to say that I err towards being on the side of the critics and doubters, even though I obviously hope you prove us wrong (a) by eventually publishing the book and (b) by the book containing better recipes than other well known books which feature BIR type recipes.
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on August 22, 2013, 10:51 PM
;)
Chris - would it be possible for you to post a provisional contents page for your ebook, including a list of recipes? It might help us understand how much work is involved, and potentially increase the level of interest.

Do I need to I asked my self? What do you think I came

Obviously not cause there is no E-Book, now trot along
;D
So you are now the spokesman for this forum?
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on August 22, 2013, 11:00 PM
Chris - would it be possible for you to post a provisional contents page for your ebook, including a list of recipes? It might help us understand how much work is involved, and potentially increase the level of interest.

Do I need to I asked my self? What do you think I came to?

Thanks for your response but I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean to say:

"Do I need to post a provisional contents page here on this forum? What decision do you think I came to?"

If that's what you mean, I assume you don't like the idea. But why not? I intended it as a well-meant suggestion to help raise your credibility. You wouldn't be giving away any secrets - just a provisional contents page with a list of recipes. If you can't do that, I'm sorry to say that I err towards being on the side of the critics and doubters, even though I obviously hope you prove us wrong (a) by eventually publishing the book and (b) by the book containing better recipes than other well known books which feature BIR type recipes.
Why do I need to? If you and others think I'm full of (moderated) why the interest?
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: George on August 23, 2013, 10:00 AM
Why do I need to? If you and others think I'm full of (moderated) why the interest?

It's your decision but silence or a 'no comment' type response speaks volumes in many situations.

In the meantime, please refrain from using 4 letter words. It's against forum rules. Nothing justifies the use of bad language, whatever people may think about your long-promised book. Go on, prove us wrong.
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Post by: Gav Iscon on August 23, 2013, 10:40 AM
Why do I need to? If you and others think I'm full of (moderated) why the interest?
......................................
In the meantime, please refrain from using 4 letter words. It's against forum rules. Nothing justifies the use of bad language, whatever people may think about your long-promised book. ......................

Whilst I usually don't want to get drawn into pointless arguments, I think being pulled for using the word sh$t is a bit harsh and in the world of equality,

http://tinyurl.com/l23jvfd (http://tinyurl.com/l23jvfd)

and even worse

http://tinyurl.com/lyulxxv (http://tinyurl.com/lyulxxv)

Can we not just wait patiently instead of turning a thread into a slanging match every time he posts a video.
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Post by: Peripatetic Phil on August 23, 2013, 10:51 AM
Whilst I usually don't want to get drawn into pointless arguments, I think being pulled for using the word sh$t is a bit harsh ...

When I used the "Report to moderator" option, it was the use of the F-word that I was reporting, not something as mild as "sh1t".

** Phil.
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Post by: Stephen Lindsay on August 23, 2013, 12:23 PM
It's been a while.
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Post by: Peripatetic Phil on August 23, 2013, 12:46 PM
It's been a while.

As a Scot, Stephen, I am sure you will appreciate the following, of which I was reminded by your "it's been a while".

I was in the Isle of Mull, near Craignure, waiting for a 'bus.  The timetable said the next one was due at 13:00.  A lady was waiting at the same stop, and she told me she had been there since 12:15.  13:00 came and went, as did 13:30 and 13:45.  I gave up in disgust, went back to my hotel, and telephoned Caledonian McBrayne.  The conversation went like this.

Quote
"Caledonian McBrayne".
"Good afternoon.  My name is Taylor, and I have been waiting for the 1 o'clock 'bus from Craignure for 45 minutes, and there has been not a sign".
"Aye".
"A lady has been there for an hour and a half, and she has seen no sign of the 'bus either".
"Aye".
"Well, this is a disgrace :  you have a 'bus advertised to run at 1 o'clock, and there is no sign of it from 12:15 to 1:45".
"Aye".

At which point I gave up.

That evening, in the bar, Jim (the landlord) called me over; he was talking to a Scots man-mountain of about 6'6", built like a brick outhouse.  "Angus", he said to the man-mountain, "I don't think ye've met ma resident, Mr Taylor.  He was on the telephone to you earlier today about there being no 'bus ..." !

** Phil.
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Post by: curryhell on August 23, 2013, 05:09 PM
It's been a while.
And pleasant it's been too  ::) .  But it couldn't last  :( . But we'll curry on regardless ;)
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Post by: DalPuri on August 23, 2013, 05:39 PM
Its all in a word and that word is,, "soon"
If Chris had said Ebook out this year or later in the year, there wouldn't have been one argument.

But that word "soon"     >:(   ;)
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on August 24, 2013, 03:07 PM
Hope you all enjoy the five Videos i have put up for you and gives you some idea how i want the book.
They will be about 40 Videos in total in the book. Sorry it is taking longer than some of you want to wait. When i set out to do the book i didn't think i would be putting so much into it.
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Post by: loveitspicy on August 24, 2013, 03:10 PM
Good man

40 vids???

best, Rich
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Post by: gazman1976 on August 24, 2013, 03:11 PM
Hope you all enjoy the five Videos i have put up for you and gives you some idea how i want the book.
They will be about 40 Videos in total in the book. Sorry it is taking longer than some of you want to wait. When i set out to do the book i didn't think i would be putting so much into it.

I M P O S T E R   ;D
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Post by: Aussie Mick on August 24, 2013, 04:33 PM
Just take your time and get it right Chris.

There was a lot of silly mistakes in Julians first book, probably through eagernous to get it out.

Take yer time.....but hurry up ;) :D
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Post by: h4ppy-chris on August 24, 2013, 04:36 PM
Just take your time and get it right Chris.

There was a lot of silly mistakes in Julians first book, probably through eagernous to get it out.

Take yer time.....but hurry up ;) :D

LOL, thanks Mick. did you try the kebab Video recipe i put up?
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Post by: Aussie Mick on August 24, 2013, 06:38 PM
Just take your time and get it right Chris.

There was a lot of silly mistakes in Julians first book, probably through eagernous to get it out.

Take yer time.....but hurry up ;) :D

LOL, thanks Mick. did you try the kebab Video recipe i put up?

No i didn't Chris.

I am more than happy with our seekh kebabs that our tandoori chef makes, and.....well, it's not my department, i already have too much to do.

I will deffo have a go at your kashmiri masala though. Looks really good 8)

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Post by: adamski on August 24, 2013, 06:42 PM
Chris,

I will buy your book as I have all the others. From watching your free videos which are excellent I noticed a common thread, the special spiced oil as your chef friend put it. I guess this is the secret but hell I may be wrong.
Title: Re: unlocking the taste to indian takeaway, ebook out soon.
Post by: h4ppy-chris on August 24, 2013, 06:43 PM
Just take your time and get it right Chris.

There was a lot of silly mistakes in Julians first book, probably through eagernous to get it out.

Take yer time.....but hurry up ;) :D

LOL, thanks Mick. did you try the kebab Video recipe i put up?

No i didn't Chris.

I am more than happy with our seekh kebabs that our tandoori chef makes, and.....well, it's not my department, i already have too much to do.

I will deffo have a go at your kashmiri masala though. Looks really good 8)

The home made kashmiri masala does add that edge Mick.
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Post by: Aussie Mick on August 24, 2013, 08:18 PM
I'm 100% sure that it will Chris...looks excellent. Will get onto it ASAP.