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Title: Sourdough Bread
Post by: Whandsy on April 20, 2013, 07:20 PM
Has anybody got any interest in sourdough bread making? Ive have been making it for a couple of months now and really enjoying the crusty, tangy bread i'm producing. I grew the sourdough starter myself from just rye flour and water. I'm still amazed that flour, water salt and (wild) yeast can produce something so delicious.

Anybody who loves bread, this is well worth a try, the sourdough starter just lives in the fridge once it becomes active :)

A couple of links below to a loaf i produced today, recipe is from dan lepards "the handmade loaf".

http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/df4f35ace404671b9a81315ed612f11a.jpg (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/df4f35ace404671b9a81315ed612f11a.jpg)

http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/d1a97ca6b13e593050170ac3410f23ed.jpg (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/d1a97ca6b13e593050170ac3410f23ed.jpg)

Regards

Wayne
Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: curryhell on April 20, 2013, 08:32 PM
Can I have four slices of that lovely looking loaf for my bacon sarnies in the morning? Nice one W. ;)
Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: natterjak on April 21, 2013, 07:58 AM
Looks fantastic whandsy. Really first class.  I did have a go at sourdough after it was mentioned in the recent pizza threads but never had much success. Mine seems to just go watery and slack, not fluffy like supposed to. Maybe the wrong kind of wild wee beasties took over the culture.

Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: haldi on April 21, 2013, 08:22 AM
Has anybody got any interest in sourdough bread making?
Funny you should say that
I got interested about a month ago
I made the starter over a week
Just plain flour and water, adding a little more flour every day
I didn't have much confidence in it working, but it did
I couldn't follow the recipe exactly
The dough needed to be cooked in a heavy duty lidded oven pot
It steams for part of the cooking
I guess this is what makes it so crusty
You use a similar steam method to make crusty cobs
Anyhow I cooked it in a stainless steel stock pot, and it stuck on the base
When I say stuck, I mean more like fused with the metal
I got the bread out, ok
But I lost the lovely shape it could have been
And it tasted great
We ate everything we crowbarred out
I'll definitely give sourdough bread another go, when I've got a better pot
Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: Les on April 21, 2013, 08:46 AM
Here's a vid  you may want to watch.
Paul Hollywood making sourdough bread. and how to make a starter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJH98Io_BE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJH98Io_BE)

Les
Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: Whandsy on April 21, 2013, 09:51 AM
I just bake mine straight off a pizza stone after proving, although an upturned baking tray will do. I don't use the "no knead" method which is a very wet dough mix and baked in a pot.
 The sourdough starter is mixed with flour and water and is periodically kneaded in small bursts which distributes the starter and stretches the glutens. The shape and feel is that of a regular dough so it can prove in a bowl and bake openly. The process takes a lot lot longer with wild yeasts rather then the dried commercial yeasts but the bread has a more "bready" taste due to this and is more continental style in depth of flavour and crustiness.

Nj / haldi, I've done a lot of reading about it if you fancy another go at making it, and have any questions I can help with. (Or anybody for that matter)

Heres a link to a sourdough website that answers a lot of questions about starters and baking sourdoughs.

http://www.sourdoughhome.com/index.php?content=startingastarter (http://www.sourdoughhome.com/index.php?content=startingastarter)

The recipe i use comes from Peter Reinharts book "the bread bakers apprentice"

The results are delicious :)

W
Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: Malc. on April 21, 2013, 12:52 PM
I have to say, that bread looks very tasty indeed. I've never been one for baking as i'm more spur of moment but that is certainly inspiring.

I might just have to try this. :)
Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: Whandsy on April 21, 2013, 02:25 PM
I might just have to try this. :)

Well worth the effort (imo) Axe, something quite satisfying about creating life then turning it into bread ;)

W
Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: Whandsy on November 21, 2013, 06:09 PM
Just thought I'd bump this thread again, anybody who loves artisan breads should try getting into sourdough. Having spent a day cooking a jalfrezi for myself tomorrow and a korma for the kids tonight, I also had a sourdough loaf fermenting and proving for the day. This loaf nails supermarket sourdoughs to the wall. Delfish for both toast a sandwiches alike!

 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/5e0084552e5ff273c13c3ea026b0fa4e.jpg) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#5e0084552e5ff273c13c3ea026b0fa4e.jpg)}

Wayne

Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: Micky Tikka on November 21, 2013, 07:02 PM
Well done Whandsy
I cant echo your views enough
I was going to PM you to see how your baking was getting on
The bread book Flour water salt Yeast by Ken Forkish  That you recommended is a must for all who want to make the best bread
I don't think people realise you do not have to knead to make great bread from this book
Unless you have found another book to recommend ;D
Cheers Michael
Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: Whandsy on November 21, 2013, 07:59 PM
Thanks Michael

Sounds like your enjoying the fruits of your breadmaking labour! I bought a "sourdough" loaf from Sainsburys the other day and it was so far removed from the real thing I couldn't believe it! It was badly baked and I thing it was made from commercial yeast?!? Nothing like the real thing.(IMO)

Whichever bread I now bake is done in the Dutch oven (cast iron casserole pot) and produces consistent results. My sourdough is the dan lepard method cooked ken forkish style! (Excellent book).

Simply delicious.

W
Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: Willyeckerslike on November 22, 2013, 09:38 AM
Great thread Whandsy. 

I wish I had seen it before!

Since I have moved to the land where criminals were once deported too, one thing I have missed is the bread from the UK.  I don't know why but it is different, some good but a lot is not so good.

I will have to have a go at this soon

cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Sourdough Bread
Post by: Whandsy on November 22, 2013, 11:41 AM
Thanks willy

Worth getting into, very therapeutic making a loaf from just flour, water, salt and yeast. Especially when it's your own yeast cultivation.

W