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Title: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Gav Iscon on September 25, 2013, 08:58 PM
http://www.jcvaerials.com/ (http://www.jcvaerials.com/)  :)
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on September 25, 2013, 09:38 PM
Wonder if he can do a curry in HD or 3D?
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: rshome123 on September 25, 2013, 10:08 PM
Nice guy. Never met him but respect what he has done.  A flexible entrepreneur striving to do the best for the family.  I'd have him over for dinner any day of the week.
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 25, 2013, 10:11 PM
Oh Julian, what a gaffe :  "We have a Digital Aerial for every area and every budget."  If you have been in the business for ten years, how come you have failed to learn that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DIGITAL AERIAL ?  If you don't believe me, ask Freesat (http://www.freeview.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/FREEVIEW_Value_Aerials.pdf), ask Satcure (http://www.satcure.co.uk/accs/page11f.htm), ask any real aerial professional.  Stick to the curries, lad, or get your facts straight before you make yourself look ridiculous by claiming to stock something that does not exist.

** Phil.
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Les on September 25, 2013, 10:20 PM
http://www.screwfix.com/p/labgear-tv-aerial-digital-32-element/41700 (http://www.screwfix.com/p/labgear-tv-aerial-digital-32-element/41700)

Les
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: curryhell on September 25, 2013, 10:22 PM
Mmm, what next I am asking myself? His credability I fear will begin to decline  :-\
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 25, 2013, 10:25 PM
http://www.screwfix.com/p/labgear-tv-aerial-digital-32-element/41700 (http://www.screwfix.com/p/labgear-tv-aerial-digital-32-element/41700)

Les
I do not dispute for one second that people (even Screwfix) sell things called "digital aerials"; after all, if that's what the punters think they want, the unscrupulous will be only too ready to cash in on it.  But if you care to read the links I cited, you will see that DIGITAL AERIALS DO NOT EXIST.  They are simply snake oil, nothing more.

** Phill.


Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: natterjak on September 25, 2013, 10:29 PM
One of the most erudite aerial installers in the country is Bill Wright of Wright's aerials. His rogues gallery is a marvellous thing, each one with a story attached should you click the picture and scroll down:

http://www.wrightsaerials.co.uk/roguesgallery/view.shtml (http://www.wrightsaerials.co.uk/roguesgallery/view.shtml)

Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Les on September 25, 2013, 10:31 PM
Just read the links Phil, and you are absolutely right. so why are these company's allowed to lie to the public. rip off or what >:(

Les
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: George on September 25, 2013, 10:35 PM
http://www.jcvaerials.com/ (http://www.jcvaerials.com/)  :)

Well spotted. I assume that's the business he was in, before he found it's not so easy to make a fortune running an Indian takeaway. Good luck to him.

As for digital aerials, I'd take it as meaning suitable for picking up digital transmissions. And if the public use that term, I'm not surprised he does, too.
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Garabi Army on September 25, 2013, 10:39 PM
Does the satellite dishes he supplies double up as woks?
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 25, 2013, 10:42 PM
Just read the links Phil, and you are absolutely right. so why are these company's allowed to lie to the public. rip off or what >:(

Les

Perhaps because, as George so rightly says (in paraphrase) "they work OK for digital, so why not market them as such".  Pedantry apart, I have no real problem with someone selling a so-called "digital aerial" just so long as he doesn't also sell exactly the same aerial as a "wideband, high-gain, log-periodic analogue aerial" and charge only half as much !

** Phil.
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 25, 2013, 10:43 PM
Does the satellite dishes he supplies double up as woks?

ROTFL  ;D
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Gav Iscon on September 25, 2013, 10:46 PM


As for digital aerials, I'd take it as meaning suitable for picking up digital transmissions. And if the public use that term, I'm not surprised he does, too.

My thoughts as well. I hope he does well.
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Gav Iscon on September 25, 2013, 10:50 PM

Pedantry apart, I have no real problem with someone selling a so-called "digital aerial" just so long as he doesn't also sell exactly the same aerial as a "wideband, high-gain, log-periodic analogue aerial" and charge only half as much !

** Phil.

Would that not be a bargain then if its half as much.  :)
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 26, 2013, 08:10 AM

Pedantry apart, I have no real problem with someone selling a so-called "digital aerial" just so long as he doesn't also sell exactly the same aerial as a "wideband, high-gain, log-periodic analogue aerial" and charge only half as much !

** Phil.

Would that not be a bargain then if its half as much.  :)

No, that would be its true price (i.e., value); the 100% markup for branding it as a so-called "Digital Aerial" is what I object to ...

** Phil.
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Gav Iscon on September 26, 2013, 08:31 AM
Gotcha, my receptions not what it used to be.  :(
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Naga on September 26, 2013, 12:52 PM
Two digital aerials were married recently. The ceremony wasn't up to much, but apparently, the reception was brilliant...
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 26, 2013, 01:23 PM
Quote from: Comedy Review
"This one will run and run"
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: StoneCut on September 28, 2013, 08:09 PM
If we're referring to SAT reception then there actually IS such a thing as an LNB (the thing you connect the cables to on a sat dish) that's ONLY capable of analog reception, BUT these have been off the market for quite some time AFAIK.

To explain: there's a 'low band' and a 'high band' - low band includes analog as well as digital stations, high band only includes digital stations. If your LNB only supports low band - we're talking ancient stuff here - then obviously it's not fully capable of digital reception. Hence, why you see LNBs marketed as 'universal' nowadays. It means they can receive both bands

To verify whether an LNB supports both modes check the tech details that are usually printed on it:
10.70 - 11.70 GHz ( Low )
11.70 - 12.75 GHz ( High )

So, it's not technically wrong to market something as a digital dish/antenna, especially if you're aiming at people that have had their setup for ages. Apart from that it's marketing, of course.
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 28, 2013, 08:20 PM
So, it's not technically wrong to market something as a digital dish/antenna, especially if you're aiming at people that have had their setup for ages. Apart from that it's marketing, of course.

Although I might nit-pick on a little of the preceding, in general one does indeed need a universal LNB if one is to be able to access all the digital transponders as well as the (very few) analogue transponders that are still in existence.  But I cannot go along with the last part -- there is no such thing as a digital dish, or a digital antenna/aerial :  I am still using /exactly/ the same 90cm dish for digital satellite reception as I used for analogue, and the only reason I changed the LNB was to go to quad from twin monobloc (my original LNB was, of course, universal, since the need for those arose during the analogue-only era).

** Phil.
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on September 29, 2013, 10:20 AM
More on "Digital aerials for the Gullible" (from Martin Pickering's "Satcure" web log) --

Quote from: http://www.satcure.co.uk/reviews/satcure_blog_182.htm#01
An eBay seller is offering an omnidirectional aerial and alleging 96dB gain!

It's a "digital HD TV indoor and outdoor antenna/aerial".

Bearing in mind that, by definition, an omnidirectional (= 360 degree) aerial always has a gain of less than unity (<1) even 0.96dB would be optimistic. So suggesting that it's a hundred times higher must surely be fraudulent. Even if it incorporated a high gain amplifier, 100 x (<1) is still less than one - plus a lot of amplifier noise.

Amazingly, this seller has NO negative feedback so the darn thing must pick up a signal. It makes me wonder whether I should drop a coil of wire into a plastic deodorant bottle, glue it to a magnetic base and sell it as a 1000 dB antenna.

"We have a very low antenna returns rate (approx 1 in 17)"

That's nearly six percent. If I had that return rate on any product, I'd stop selling it (and I have done so on a few products).

Of course they can get away with this because, in many parts of the UK, you can pick up a signal with a coat hanger. However, a coat hanger doesn't cost
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: Willyeckerslike on September 30, 2013, 11:08 AM
So much negativity towards a guy who really tried to make a go of a "curry business" on a curry forum!
Good luck in your new venture Julian
Title: Re: If Your TV Receptions On the Blink and You Fancy A Curry
Post by: StoneCut on September 30, 2013, 11:45 AM
I totally agree, Willyeckerslike.