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Curry Chat => Lets Talk Curry => Topic started by: goncalo on March 19, 2014, 02:13 PM
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As some of you may know, Bengali Bob and I went on a training course that turned out to be a fiasco. The lengthy post that follows is just a review of the training as offered by Muhammed Ali Haydor at Kushi Birmingham, a well reputed BIR/Balti chef and a little bit of story.
Sometime in October 2013, I called Ali (aka Mohammed Ali Haydor, of the
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And your point is, caller?
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And your point is, caller?
Probably hit the re-dial button by mistake. After all, "intelligent" and "'phone-in caller" is a fairly rare collocation, if indeed the concept exists at all.
** Phil.
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Unlike some other sites, this site has not been reduced to the level of replicating others content to maintain interest or create membership. Besides, this is old news for any that have their finger on the pulse. I question why all of a sudden we lowly ones should be so worthy ::)
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I think you are going off-topic there. If you would like to know why this has been posted elsewhere and only posted here now, feel free to send me a private message and I will be happy to clarify accordingly. This has been posted here for widespread of information on a scam curry training that myself and Bob have been victims of.
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Which happened early November - nice of you to let us know, so we didn't get scammed in the following five months :)
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Better late than never.
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Maybe to avoid my "off topic" comments some explanation should have been given in the first instance. One can but wonder why all of a sudden after such a length of time you have decided to share information which is most definitely second hand, given its age :-\
Whilst I try to remain on topic most of the time, I do struggle with "out of the blue" posts from people who passed over quite some time ago and ceased to participate here. This isn't helped by reading comments and remarks elsewhere. Isn't it surprising how quickly people forget where they started and those individuals who helped one along the way. Human nature I suppose. All part of climbing the BIR chef credibility ladder I suppose ::)
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I suppose it's my prerogative when and where I publish information, regardless of my intents which I am entitled to omit and/or include if I so feel like. Now that that is out of the way, I am glad you are observant and understand I went on hiatus on this community, while I have remained active elsewhere. One doesn't need to go to a different topic to find out reasons for why I have not felt like participating here.
I can give you specifics without bothering myself to find the topics in which this occurred: I created a post where I was keeping my progress, in the form of a log. I'd normally post there my progress on trying to crack a jalfrezi and bombay aloo, instead of bombing new topics in the pictures section, given the rate at which I was cooking curries at the time and which would potentially drag out some of the other members pictures from the frontpage - I really didn't wanted to be in that position, I was more interested in my journey than on featuring the frontpage and it was important for me to keep a log while leveraging from feedback and/or opinions from other members of this community. You have been very forthcoming in noticing and because you are the leader of this community, you felt entitled to post a comment stating that "cr0 was turning to be a blogging platform" in your own wording in some follow-up comment in a different thread, which, again I am not bothered to try and find; Garp has been on a number of occasions very forth coming in trolling every comment I make on here as well. I take it as a personal compliment in that he finds I am worth his time and effort, even though his comments suggest otherwise. Fair play. ::)
So, yeah, that may shed some light into my decisions to be absent. And with regards to where I started or who helped me, that is besides the point, too.
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Ive just sat and read this post and i'm wondering why why why????
Why didn't you post it earlier and call it by its name training scam at the Kushi.......
best, Rich
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i just sat and read the post with my morning coffee as my newspaper as yet not arrived but i,m in the same thinking as loveitspicey if it happened in November been better to warn us all of it within in say a week may be 2 WEEKS at the latest , this is like bolting the stable door after the horse as gone and you have got a post card from him telling you how sunny Florida can be lol
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As it is apparently old news, or "second hand news", both loveitspicy and ivan888, members of the other forum, certainly may have also noticed that I kept postponing the publishing of the review because I spent 3 months preparing for interviews, or as I sometimes called it 'tough exams', but this is not second hand news, right? ::)
Posting the review was delayed until the 31st of January of the following year. There are things that have taken more precedence than writing a review of a training course. We both had already explained, back in November, that the training at Kushi was a fiasco in comments before the review was published, but I felt the need to provide a lengthy story, just so it doesn't come across as slander without facts to back it up and also for the inside perspective. After I posted my write up elsewhere, I was under the impression that Bob would write his own review of the training, using his own wording and view points, so I didn't bothered to post mine here. As it didn't happen, I pinged him recently if he would be OK with posting this here too and he agreed.
So, in short: It is a scam, whether it is late news for you or not. I also don't think I need to title this as "scam", as the review speaks for itself.
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I have nothing against you, other than you talk pish a lot. I actually thought you were Irish, not Portugese, so maybe that explains some things.
As I remember, you posted a pic of a dish on the front page which, after consulting with Mrs G, I decided to say something like it looked disgusting. Perhaps I shouldn't have said that. Mrs G actually said that it looked like a little row of dogs jobbies :)
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Unless by PM you mean "public message", you must have me confused, or perhaps you need to visit a specsavers as I haven't sent you any message privately - in fact, had I not authored this topic, I wouldn't even bother to read your message as you are in the ignore list for quite a few months now. But please, make it public. Get that out of your system. ::)
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As some of you may know, Bengali Bob and I went on a training course that turned out to be a fiasco. The lengthy post that follows is just a review of the training as offered by Muhammed Ali Haydor at Kushi Birmingham, a well reputed BIR/Balti chef and a little bit of story.
Many thanks for your very interesting and helpful review. It may have been a while ago but it's no less interesting. For him to have made
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For those of us who don't frequent the other inferior curry forums I found it quite informative if a little late. It still serves to warn anyone else who might consider such a venture in the future.
I think the bigger con is the Kushi balti book which while producing some decent curries does not match the standard that can be had in the restaurant apparently.
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Many thanks for your very interesting and helpful review. It may have been a while ago but it's no less interesting. For him to have made
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Thanks for the info Goncalo.
Sounds to me like the kushi has seen better days. It has put me off ever wanting to buy any food off them with that kind of attitude.
I too am not particularly bothered by the delay in you publishing your report.
Its all interesting reading anyway
Regards
Mick
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we had a full day of training with a top notch BIR chef, which I believe the videos have already been posted by Bob. I would have loved to make a write up of that day in greater detail and expose further information about the balti triangle and some pictures of adil/shabab, but I don't think there is much point or personal benefit to be gained.
I can't speak for anyone else goncalo but I would love to see a write up of that day. I dare say there's something for us all in there somewhere but we'll never know if you don't publish.
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Goncalo. If there is to be a Next time,come to Boston mate! Where we will do it properly, step by step, no language barriers, no confusion. The Invitation is open :)
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Excellent report Gongalo
Should add that most of the delay posting on here was down to me, who had planned to re-visit the Kushi, and then contribute to the write-up based on this extra visit. Never got around to going back though. I will some time.
Rob :)