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Title: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Edwin Catflap on July 01, 2014, 02:25 PM
Hi Guys

Anyone know where to get a cheap Chinese cleaver as they would use in a TA

Cheers

Ed
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Gav Iscon on July 01, 2014, 02:43 PM
Heres a start

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/279-3646225-8168459?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=cleaver&sprefix=cleav%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Acleaver (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/279-3646225-8168459?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=cleaver&sprefix=cleav%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Acleaver)
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Onions on July 01, 2014, 03:25 PM
...and remember the knife sharpener too!!! ;)
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Gav Iscon on July 01, 2014, 03:30 PM
...and remember the knife sharpener too!!! ;)

The optimum word was 'cheap'  :)

I may have to get one myself at that price
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Onions on July 01, 2014, 03:39 PM
Yeah! -but a tenner for something that calls itself 'The World's Best' eh :D
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Gav Iscon on July 01, 2014, 03:58 PM
They've been discussed in detail on here before. I was looking at the £2.33 inc delivery cleaver.
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Onions on July 01, 2014, 04:00 PM
Yeah, the smallish one? Wanna get the thing they use in the halal butcher. You never get robbed again. But may have to occasionally replace the work surface!  8)
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Edwin Catflap on July 01, 2014, 04:24 PM
Hi

I'm after a relatively fine one for every day use rather than a heavy one for chopping bones etc.

Ed
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Les on July 01, 2014, 04:31 PM
Hi Ed
Couple of years ago i bought a "San Han Nga" no 2, Chinese cleaver/choping knife stainless steel.(local kitchen shop) for about £10 if memory serves, (will be a bit more now) Best one i ever bought, ideal for everyday use in my opinion.

Les
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: ScottyM on July 01, 2014, 11:38 PM
Hi Guys

Anyone know where to get a cheap Chinese cleaver as they would use in a TA

Cheers

Ed

Dont buy the cheap, light ones with stainless steel handles. They are horrid to work with and require constant sharpening as they loose there edge quickly.

Most TA's will use no.2 San Han brand. Or any no.2 with a wooden handle. Ask at the tills of your Chinese supermarket as they keep them in the back and often don't display the good ones. (Often only the shite stainless steel ones in the blue boxes)
You can get a nice one for ?10-25.

Or use this site, LOTS of London chefs use this place for custom, handmade knifes at extremely good prices. Very cheap postage too ($8) direct from japan.
http://japanesechefsknife.com/ChineseCleaver.html#ChineseCleaver (http://japanesechefsknife.com/ChineseCleaver.html#ChineseCleaver)

5 out of the 8 TA chefs i work with use these knifes. Specifically the Sugimoto Chinese Cleaver SGMT No.7. The rest use the No.2 San Han you can get from Asian shops.

DON'T skimp and buy some cheap ?3-5 knife. The steel used to made them is rubbish and they loose there edge quicker than a fat girl will swallow a cake.
They are very unbalanced and feel horrid to cut with.
You will spend more time sharpening it then cutting with it.

Like i said ?10-25 you can get a GOOD no.2 cleaver with a wooden handle from a Chinese supermarket. Or order online from a site like http://japanesechefsknife.com/ChineseCleaver.html#ChineseCleaver (http://japanesechefsknife.com/ChineseCleaver.html#ChineseCleaver)
I have the Suien Chinese Cleaver from here.

Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Edwin Catflap on July 02, 2014, 08:16 PM
Got a no2 San han nag today from kh trading Sheffield £6.80 and a 12inch steel flat bottomed wok £6.80 as we'll! Bargain.

They also cook food there and it smelt great but resisted cos cooking tonight!

Cheers for the advice guys

Ed
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Les on July 02, 2014, 09:03 PM
Happy choping Ed,   ;D Good prices too ;D

Les
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: chewytikka on July 08, 2014, 08:20 PM
No2 SAN HAN NGA
How you getting used to using your Chinese cleaver ED?
Just curious and interested, as I have above average knife skills, but I find cleavers a bit cumbersome
and I feel like the mad axeman, every time I pick up my meat cleaver.

I’m not sure either why the Chinese use them in an all purpose, one knife does everything style.

I do have a collection of very sharp knives and understand the feel of a good knife
as I tend to use a razor sharp old Butchers knife for most things.

But I’m tempted to buy a Chinese Cleaver, if yours is light and balanced enough.
cheers Chewy
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Edwin Catflap on July 08, 2014, 08:23 PM
Hi Chewy, I like it but still revert to others when not doing Chinese, so its £6 spent to get into the vibe and I like owning it.

It is a very different technique, being able to scoop stuff up is handy.

Cheers Ed
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: chewytikka on July 08, 2014, 08:38 PM
Thanks, good enough for me, I'll seek one out the next time I'm up Chinatoon. ;)
cheers Chewy
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Geezah on July 08, 2014, 10:59 PM
Providing you keep the blade well honed then its no different to an ordinary chef knife, albeit a little heavier.
I use a cheap ?3 cleaver from Wing Yips and love it.
Once you get the feel for the heavy blade you dont really look back. As Edwin says, using the width of the blade for transporting chopped food is a blessing on its own, let alone being ablt to slice, dice and chop boned meats all with the same cheap blade.
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Les on July 09, 2014, 10:36 AM
Some tip's on how to use a cleaver in a Chinese T/A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQEyte-6EK0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQEyte-6EK0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IrHLrzIBic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IrHLrzIBic)
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: london on August 29, 2014, 04:11 PM
Chewy,

Did you get yourself a cleaver, if you did how are you getting on with it, I only ask as i picked up a San Han Nga No2 at Hoo Hing today for 5.10. I might go out and get a 5 kg bag of onions to hone my skills on.

London.
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: chewytikka on August 29, 2014, 08:53 PM
Hi London
I couldn’t find the right chinese cleaver in Chinatoon
So instead I turned Japanese and bought a Usuba.

I’ve used the Usuba for a few days and am delighted, a very accurate
Onion chopper, Garlic basher and great for scooping ingredients into the pan.
plus if I ever want to skin a cucumber in one piece, this is the knife. ;D

N.B I have lots of good kitchen knives, even some vintage.
One being a Granton Butchers knife, which I use as an all purpose grab knife.

But this Usuba is a great find and Ideal for my cooking.
Heres somebody using one, which looks about the same as mine. A Righty.
http://youtu.be/PrYt4jvpJe0?list=PLDnWicD6LtPc7e1r00WwB4OXod-ErpMxf (http://youtu.be/PrYt4jvpJe0?list=PLDnWicD6LtPc7e1r00WwB4OXod-ErpMxf)

If I do come across a No2 SAN HAN NGA, I’ll still probably buy one just to see what its like.
Let me know how you get on with yours. ;)
cheers Chewy
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on August 29, 2014, 09:29 PM
The Usaba video is interesting, but this one, a few further on in the series, just blows my mind ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrYBswZY-tw&list=PLDnWicD6LtPc7e1r00WwB4OXod-ErpMxf&index=5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrYBswZY-tw&list=PLDnWicD6LtPc7e1r00WwB4OXod-ErpMxf&index=5)
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: curryhell on August 29, 2014, 09:49 PM
I fell asleep after 5 mins  of viewing  ???
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Gav Iscon on August 29, 2014, 09:56 PM
I fell asleep after 5 mins  of viewing  ???
I have to say I didn't even last that. The lads down the fish quay are much more entertaining and fillet fish whilst looking at their mates in full chat mode. They honestly could do it blindfolded.
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Madrasandy on August 29, 2014, 10:12 PM
WTF my paint dried before that finished !!!
Title: Re: Chinese cleaver
Post by: Gav Iscon on August 29, 2014, 10:23 PM
Yep, glad I'm not waiting for my fish and chips in that place. The Japenese certainly do strange things.

Moshi Moshi haha