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Curry Chat => Talk About Anything Other Than Curry => Topic started by: Geoffbrick on February 17, 2015, 10:01 PM

Title: Empty vessels
Post by: Geoffbrick on February 17, 2015, 10:01 PM
Coming from North Of the border,I feel it my duty to give Alex Wilkie a blast,the Ebook looks good,if I can do anything resembling the recipes that will take me back to my homeland for a wee while,thats ok with me.
Having said that,I,m pleased to be part of Curry Recipes and the welcome,now resident in the Midlands.

Geoff
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: JerryM on February 18, 2015, 11:30 PM
Alex is a member - bigboaby1. I think he has something like 115 posts which are a real good read.

I gel with what he knows.

I think he has met with some of our empty vessel members and we have all suffered the loss as a result.

The big problem I have is that no mix powder is used which I find difficult to embrace given my baggage (midlands upbringing)
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: mickdabass on February 19, 2015, 09:26 AM

I think he has met with some of our empty vessel members

Thats so true Jerry. Too many of those idiots on this site.

Regards

Mick
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Gav Iscon on February 19, 2015, 09:42 AM
Alex goes under a few pseudonyms. Here's his Youtube channel Geoff just in case you missed it.

https://www.youtube.com/user/wulkyboy/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/wulkyboy/videos)
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Geoffbrick on February 19, 2015, 07:29 PM
Thanks for info Gav,Ihavent had the chance to view Youtube videos ,will certainly give them a look..
Geoff
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Onions on February 19, 2015, 07:39 PM
His and Mick Crawford's are prob the best curry vods on the whole .NET :)
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: George on February 19, 2015, 11:26 PM

I think he has met with some of our empty vessel members

Thats so true Jerry. Too many of those idiots on this site.

Regards

Mick

I'm surprised at both of you for serious infringements of the terms and conditions which you agreed to when you joined this generally easy-going forum. I just had a look back at the rules and it seems clear to me that you broke several as follows:

"Terms and Conditions of Membership

3.  You will not post anything which is ...defamatory, hateful...discriminatory,
...harassing, or otherwise personally insulting, offensive, objectionable.

8.  You will not bring this Forum into disrepute by ridiculing it, or its ...Members

9.  You will otherwise do nothing that is harmful to this Forum, compromises the
integrity of this Forum, or otherwise brings this Forum into disrepute

iii. Please refrain from posting simply to increase your number of posts.  Do
not post if you are unable to add value to the thread.  Please remember that the
number of posts bears no relation to a member's cooking experience

v.   Be cordial to all other members and afford them the respect and courtesy
that you would like them to afford to you....personal insults
will not be tolerated"

I'm sure all of know the 'weakest links' as far as we're concerned and it seems likley to vary from member to member and from time to time so isn't it best to keep such 'elitest' opinions to oneself? Many people must be wondering if you mean them.

Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Sverige on February 20, 2015, 07:26 AM
The (moderated) doth protest too much, methinks.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: George on February 20, 2015, 12:10 PM
The (moderated) doth protest too much, methinks.

What point were you trying to make by using such an insulting word (in this context) before I removed it?

You're another one - the rules state that personal insults will not be tolerated.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: mickdabass on February 20, 2015, 12:37 PM
I am Spartacus lol
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Onions on February 20, 2015, 12:58 PM
We're through the looking glass here people  ;) now 'woman' has become an insult!  ::)  :o
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: George on February 20, 2015, 01:27 PM
We're through the looking glass here people  ;) now 'woman' has become an insult!  ::)  :o

It's an insult because I'm not a woman. And it may even be an insult to women because it implies only women would be petty enough to complain about flagrant breaking of the rules.

Perhaps I shouldn't have dignified it with any response and simply followed the advice not to respond to the usual trolls.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Onions on February 20, 2015, 01:33 PM
Not calling Sverige a troll surely George?! That would probably be in breach of Rule 3. And 8. And 9 v.  ;) :D
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Sverige on February 20, 2015, 01:39 PM
George, there's a beautiful irony in your so perfectly illustrating Jerry and Mickdabass's point for them. And talking of points, I see mine flew right over your head. Priceless.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: George on February 20, 2015, 03:29 PM
George, there's a beautiful irony in your so perfectly illustrating Jerry and Mickdabass's point for them. And talking of points, I see mine flew right over your head. Priceless.

I'm sorry if I missed something. You must be clever indeed if you come from Sweden, and English is not your first language, or is your member name and use of the Swedish flag just a fabrication? But if you are really that bright, why do you spend your time here, stirring up trouble?
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: mickdabass on February 20, 2015, 03:36 PM

I'm sorry if I missed something. You must be clever indeed if you come from Sweden

LOL. Time to chuck your shovel away Georgina
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: George on February 20, 2015, 05:57 PM

I'm sorry if I missed something. You must be clever indeed if you come from Sweden

LOL. Time to chuck your shovel away Georgina

If anyone else here thinks they'd like to take over the role of moderator, be warned! This is the type of thing anyone trying to carry out this role, would need to suffer - insult after insult - just for asking members not to make comments which insult anyone, let alone an unspecified whole group of members, as originally called 'empty vessels'.

It might have been too much to expect the two offenders to apologize and leave it at that. But oh no. mickdabass isn't about to admit he did anything wrong, for a start. That's the kind of person he is.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: mickdabass on February 20, 2015, 05:59 PM
Sorry George.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Onions on February 20, 2015, 06:00 PM
Thing is George: being a moderator needs two things- a light hand and a colleague.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Garp on February 20, 2015, 06:03 PM
Could the moderator please take this bickering to another thread, rather than hi-jacking Geoff's.

Regards,

Garp.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: mickdabass on February 20, 2015, 06:07 PM
Sorry too geoff for the hijacking incident. I must agree with Gav and Onions in respect of the videos. ChewyTikka also produces some excellent videos
Regards
Mick
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Secret Santa on February 20, 2015, 07:50 PM
If anyone else here thinks they'd like to take over the role of moderator, be warned! This is the type of thing anyone trying to carry out this role, would need to suffer - insult after insult

George, I've got the skin of a well-aged pachyderm and a back so slippery no duck can match it for water repulsion.

Gissajob!   ;D
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: George on February 20, 2015, 10:29 PM
Could the moderator please take this bickering to another thread, rather than hi-jacking Geoff's.

I know what you mean but please blame Jerry, rather than me, for starting it.

Unfortunately, I can't shift part of a thread, other than into the bin, so that's what I propose to do, i.e. to delete Jerry's insult, plus all the other posts related to it. I'll leave it until tomorrow, in case anyone has any valid arguments against.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Onions on February 20, 2015, 10:42 PM
Such as your inability to effectively moderate this board? A problem is, George, that you want both the freedom that an 'ordinary' poster has, and the 'authority' that a modrator has. If you stood aloof and let us all make fools of ourselves, you would probably be respected; until stepping in, impartially, impersonally, and disinterestedly to point us in the right direction.
No worries; if you don't- we won't :D 
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: George on February 21, 2015, 12:53 AM
A problem is, George, that you want both the freedom that an 'ordinary' poster has, and the 'authority' that a modrator has.

Precisely, as I've stated several times before. Any other position would be unfair and unworkable.

Any moderator who 'effectively' moderated this board would start by deleting most of your posts, working as quickly as possible towards having you and any other persistent trolls, struck off.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Graeme on February 21, 2015, 07:44 AM
Mod could have just deleted the offending words (if any) then sent a PM,
simple and professional.

However saying that...
Last time I sent a member "George" a PM he copied and posted
my private message from his private inbox into the forum for all to see.

I am just telling the truth people.

Make what you wish of my post above and decide for yourself
the integrity of some members on this site.

We also have some really helpful members who go all
out to help, thank you to each and every one of you.

Regards Graeme.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Sverige on February 21, 2015, 08:53 AM
The (moderated) doth protest too much, methinks.

What point were you trying to make by using such an insulting word (in this context) before I removed it?

It's a quote from Hamlet George. You might've heard of it, it's a play by a famous english guy.  It means that by objecting to the previous comments you incriminated yourself, making it clear that the comments were directed at you. 

You do a fine job of making yourself look foolish at (all) times George. Where's that replacement moderator we were all promised a while ago?
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on February 21, 2015, 09:32 AM
Where's that replacement moderator we were all promised a while ago?
If the (very few) members who persistently go out of their way to cause trouble on this forum were either to moderate their behaviour or (better) pack their bags and leave, we would not need a moderator at all, let alone a replacement one.  George does his very best to keep things under control, but the persistent sniping to which he is continually subjected must make him wonder whether it is really worthwhile.  Give George your support, rather than the benefit of your snide attacks, and all will benefit.

** Phil.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: mickdabass on February 21, 2015, 09:35 AM
Did you ever get an apology Graeme?
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Secret Santa on February 21, 2015, 10:27 AM
Mod could have just deleted the offending words (if any) then sent a PM,
simple and professional.

I think it would be better if instead of just replacing the offending word or sentence with "moderated" George could briefly write why the offfending article was moderated.

For example "Stop being such a XXXX" could be moderated to "Stop being such a moderated to remove swear word"

That way no one is left in any doubt as to why there was moderation.

And I think George does a fine job of mostly hands-off moderation. He's perfectly right that if unprovoked comments such as that made by Jerry, in this instance, were not made in the first place the forum would be a whole better place for it.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Graeme on February 21, 2015, 11:03 AM
mickdabass...
"Did you ever get an apology Graeme?"

No.

I am sorry for the short reply, not much else I can say about this.
I will let others decide in private for themselves.







Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: curryhell on February 21, 2015, 11:17 AM
I think he has met with some of our empty vessel members
JerryM is IMO one of the least offensive members of this forum.  He works and posts tirelessly and shares for the benefit of all who care to read.  I am sure his post was not intentionally meant to insult anybody.  He has simply stated his perspective of a small number of individuals who only add hot air rather than a genuine contribution to this forum.
I hardly think this is offensive compared to some of the stuff that has been posted on this forum in the past which has remained unmoderated and without comment.
Unless, of course, you recognise yourself as an "empty vessel", I really do fail to see the problem with his post  ::)  And furthermore, it was on topic unlike many others, including my own :-X
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Graeme on February 21, 2015, 11:24 AM
Well said curryhell.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: mickdabass on February 21, 2015, 11:41 AM
I must second that
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Micky Tikka on February 21, 2015, 12:02 PM
Ive had the pleasure of dining with Jerry
He is a true gent
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: George on February 21, 2015, 12:13 PM
He has simply stated his perspective of a small number of individuals who only add hot air rather than a genuine contribution to this forum.
I hardly think this is offensive compared to some of the stuff that has been posted on this forum in the past which has remained unmoderated and without comment.

Now, you are as guilty as Jerry for clearly breaking the rules. You have insulted an unspecified group of members who, in your pompous and snobbish way "only add hot air rather than a genuine contribution to this forum."

I wouldn't normally have given my honest opinion on recipes which you posted but now I will. You no doubt think you make a great contribution by posting quite a few recipes accompanied by good photos. These recipes may be like your favourite BIRs but your idea of what makes tasty Indian food must be quite different to mine. In other words, we probably all have different tastes. People contribute in different ways. I think it's outrageous for Jerry or you, or anyone, to insult a large group of members, as you have.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on February 21, 2015, 12:44 PM
Now, you are as guilty as Jerry for clearly breaking the rules. You have insulted an unspecified group of members who, in your pompous and snobbish way "only add hot air rather than a genuine contribution to this forum."

George, George ...  I defended you earlier today, because I genuinely believe that (a) you are constantly subjected to unwanted/unwonted sniping, and (b) you do your very best to moderate this forum and keep it free from offensive language and personal insults.  But you and I both know (and we would almost certainly agree on their identities) that there /are/ "[a small number of members who] only add hot air rather than a genuine contribution to this forum".  So why attach CH for stating this ?  It is a fact, and you do yourself (and the forum) no favours by pretending that it is not (and attacking CH in the process).  JerryM, Curryhell and Mickdabass are the good guys -- attack (if you must) the bad guys, but please don't seek to tarnish the reputation of some of our more constructive contributors when there are a small number of /very/ empty vessels who every day set out to destroy this forum by making the most noise ...

** Phil.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: curryhell on February 21, 2015, 12:52 PM
PM sent to moderator

Admin also contacted with suggestion to lock thread
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Naga on February 21, 2015, 12:56 PM
I think he has met with some of our empty vessel members
JerryM is IMO one of the least offensive members of this forum.  He works and posts tirelessly and shares for the benefit of all who care to read.  I am sure his post was not intentionally meant to insult anybody.  He has simply stated his perspective of a small number of individuals who only add hot air rather than a genuine contribution to this forum.
I hardly think this is offensive compared to some of the stuff that has been posted on this forum in the past which has remained unmoderated and without comment.
Unless, of course, you recognise yourself as an "empty vessel", I really do fail to see the problem with his post  ::)  And furthermore, it was on topic unlike many others, including my own :-X

I fully agree, Dave.

JerryM is one of a mere handful of members who keep this forum ticking over with recipes, tips'n'tricks, techniques, informed comment and genuine enquiries.

Everyone knows who makes valuable contributions to this forum and, equally, most know who does not.
Title: Re: Glasgow ITR
Post by: Les on February 21, 2015, 01:28 PM
It's like being back at school
Title: Re: Empty vessels
Post by: Secret Santa on February 21, 2015, 04:03 PM
I think he has met with some of our empty vessel members
JerryM is IMO one of the least offensive members of this forum.  He works and posts tirelessly and shares for the benefit of all who care to read.  I am sure his post was not intentionally meant to insult anybody.

I agree entirely. However had Jerry, instead of making a provocative statement as he did, said something like "I believe he was frightened off by some negative comments on previous occasions", there probably wouldn't be such a fuss being made. It's the incendiary and unnecessary way it was phrased that was the problem.