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Title: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Madrasandy on January 14, 2019, 06:32 PM

 Only 1 cup (250ml) of oil, Tom purée and single cream is needed, maybe not even that much cream. I made it too spec apart from the unknown Tom purée ingredients, where I added pinch of g/g ,turmeric, paprika and tandoori powder to oil then added Tom purée and small tin of toms, cooked it down and blended it, not  sure how close that is but hey ho.
 Anyways the base had a wonderful flavour, and a taste that is recognisable in any base  gravies I’ve had from restaurants, very moreish without been overpowering.
 I made a Madras which was delicious, but was it better than my usual base/Madras recipe? I honestly can’t say, but I’m excited to try s few more of my usual curries with this base to see how they compare.
 Hopefully Latif will upload some base gravy curry videos soon
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: pap rika on January 14, 2019, 06:48 PM
Great looking dishes Madrasandy,
                                                             What base sauce/Madras recipes do you normally use as a comparison.

    Regards pap rika
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Madrasandy on January 14, 2019, 07:13 PM
Chewy's pressure cooker base and a zaal/chewy madras combo for this one.
My normal madras is my own one, but for new bases i use the zaal/ chewy recipes
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: livo on January 14, 2019, 08:18 PM
Well done MA.  Glad someone has now done the cook and used it. I may get to it today as we are entering a 4 day heatwave so outdoors will be off. The base and the Madras look tasty. I see you omitted the cheese. ;D
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Secret Santa on January 15, 2019, 02:14 PM
Only 1 cup (250ml) of oil, Tom purée and single cream is needed, maybe not even that much cream. I made it too spec apart from the unknown Tom purée ingredients ...

Well, no, you didn't make it to spec. There is clearly much more than one cup of oil, cream and puree used. As discussed earlier it's much closer to two cups (~ 480mL) than one.
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Madrasandy on January 15, 2019, 04:45 PM
Only 1 cup (250ml) of oil, Tom purée and single cream is needed, maybe not even that much cream. I made it too spec apart from the unknown Tom purée ingredients ...

Well, no, you didn't make it to spec. There is clearly much more than one cup of oil, cream and puree used. As discussed earlier it's much closer to two cups (~ 480mL) than one.

Er yes  I did, he clearly states 1 cup ( 1 cup = 250ml) , I messaged him to avoid confusion and he said yes 1 cup 250ml.
So yes I did make it to spec, thanks for your concern though ss
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: fried on January 15, 2019, 06:57 PM
I thought your post was quite clear, thanks for sharing. Looking good.
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Secret Santa on January 15, 2019, 07:03 PM
Well, no, you didn't make it to spec. There is clearly much more than one cup of oil, cream and puree used. As discussed earlier it's much closer to two cups (~ 480mL) than one.

Er yes  I did, he clearly states 1 cup ( 1 cup = 250ml) , I messaged him to avoid confusion and he said yes 1 cup 250ml.
So yes I did make it to spec, thanks for your concern though ss

Well, if we are being accurate, no you didn't. What he says and what he actually adds are two different things. I'm going by what he adds in the video, not by what he says he adds. He also over or underestimates the other ingredients such as the spices, garlic, ginger etc.  If you don't believe me get yourself one of those balti bowls and pour 250mL of water in it and see where it comes to ... it won't be anywhere near to the brim as his are. He may be able to cook curries but he can't estimate quantities for toffee.
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Madrasandy on January 15, 2019, 07:16 PM
Why don’t you make it SS with your 480ml cups of oil purée and cream and let everyone know how you get on  ;)
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: livo on January 15, 2019, 09:39 PM
My small Balti bowl is 300 ml to the brim. 1 cup (250 ml) is as he shows in the video but mine is stainless steel and not identical. It looks to be the same size though unless he has monster hands. 

I do agree that his garlic and ginger estimates of 1 tsp are closer to 1 TBSP. It is possible to lift that much out of a jar with a teaspoon.
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Gav Iscon on January 15, 2019, 10:09 PM
Why don’t you make it SS with your 480ml cups of oil purée and cream and let everyone know how you get on  ;)

Whoa ...easy tiger, you are joking aren't you?
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Secret Santa on January 15, 2019, 10:18 PM
Why don’t you make it SS with your 480ml cups of oil purée and cream and let everyone know how you get on  ;)

No need to you've already seen it done by Latif's. And as you've communicated with him how about asking him to do a small video showing him filling the balti bowl with water to the same level as the cream etc. and then pouring it into that measuring jug he has and showing on camera what the reading is. That'd put an end to the argument.
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Secret Santa on January 15, 2019, 10:33 PM
My small Balti bowl is 300 ml to the brim. 1 cup (250 ml) is as he shows in the video but mine is stainless steel and not identical. It looks to be the same size though unless he has monster hands.

I can only refer you to CH's post in this thread http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=15069.0

"...However, the balti dish he uses is  a standard size used normally for side dishes, being smaller than that used for mains.  Fortunately I have both and they are nigh on identical to those he uses.  So I can probably clear up the uncertainty over the "cup" measures in the video.  When filling the smaller balti dish to approx the same level as in the video and then measuring the liquid.it equates to virtually 400ml..."

By the way, before anyone is tempted to get too pedantic, I'm not saying it is exactly two cups he's using (the cup being a ridiculous metric in any case), I'm saying it's much closer to two cups than it is to one.
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 15, 2019, 10:38 PM
A few hundred years ago, you would have been arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.  Not much changes.
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Secret Santa on January 15, 2019, 10:42 PM
A few hundred years ago, you would have been arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.  Not much changes.

Considering the degree of pedantry peddled by your good self on this forum Phil, there's more than a hint of the pot calling the kettle black there.
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 15, 2019, 10:49 PM
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ...". (The "you" was plural, not singular ...).
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Les on January 15, 2019, 11:03 PM
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ...". (The "you" was plural, not singular ...).
Why does it have to be a he Phil, or maybe woman don't sin  lol ;)
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 15, 2019, 11:16 PM
Can't argue with the King James version, old man.  No PC nonsense in those days !
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: livo on January 15, 2019, 11:22 PM
There used to be a section on the forum that I can no longer find. Definitions / Acronyms. One of the acronyms I've referred to previously is FOAM and it was described as Fixated On Accurate Measurement.  I feel that this discussion may have drifted into this arena and I'm sometimes in the drivers chair, so no pots or kettles here.  Perhaps rather than nit-pick about precisely how many ml of oil, tomato puree or cream is in the pretty Balti Bowl shown in the video, (a non-SI measuring vessel, as is a Chef's spoon) we should be doing as has MA and actually making it to see how it goes and then adjusting these indeterminate quantities to suite our own individual preference and / or other odd containers in the back of the cupboard.

In my early days the analytical scientist in me was driven spare by odd measurement.  Last night I cooked a Chicken Madras from scratch without a single measured ingredient.  Perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: livo on January 15, 2019, 11:27 PM
I can only refer you to CH's post in this thread http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=15069.0

By the way, before anyone is tempted to get too pedantic, I'm not saying it is exactly two cups he's using (the cup being a ridiculous metric in any case), I'm saying it's much closer to two cups than it is to one.

See Chewytikka's post on the same thread.
"Those small serving dishes, are tiny, so my guess would hold only 1 cup, 250ml max
He said 1 cup so peeps should follow his recipe. not your changes."
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Secret Santa on January 15, 2019, 11:30 PM
we should be doing as has MA and actually making it to see how it goes and then adjusting these indeterminate quantities to suite our own individual preference

Should we though? Or should we be doing our level best to copy his version as exactly as we can so as to determine if his product is worthy of consideration? If you mess around with the quantities and it's to your taste, all well and good, but who's to say the accurate version wouldn't have been better?
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: livo on January 15, 2019, 11:46 PM
Correct in every way SS.  However until such times as Latif's Inspired presents an accurately measured list of ingredients, and same for his tomato puree, this will unfortunately not be possible.  This may not ever occur.  My past experience has shown me that "minor" adjustments, modifications and assumptions are an essential part of my cooking (geographically forced in some instances).  I will be making this base (best guess) and I expect that it will be quite acceptable and possibly even good.  CT has expressed that it really isn't too different to other bases / gravies and in particular, his own.
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Madrasandy on January 16, 2019, 07:27 PM

Should we though? Or should we be doing our level best to copy his version as exactly as we can so as to determine if his product is worthy of consideration? If you mess around with the quantities and it's to your taste, all well and good, but who's to say the accurate version wouldn't have been better?

Why don't you go and make it then SS, with your quantities, if your not sure message Latif and ask him. Then when you've made it and posted your results you will have made a positive contribution to the forum, for a change, rather than always been so negative!

Perhaps rather than nit-pick about precisely how many ml of oil, tomato puree or cream is in the pretty Balti Bowl shown in the video, (a non-SI measuring vessel, as is a Chef's spoon) we should be doing as has MA and actually making it to see how it goes and then adjusting these indeterminate quantities to suite our own individual preference and / or other odd containers in the back of the cupboardnight
Thanks Livo
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: Donald Brasco on January 17, 2019, 12:56 PM
It is utterly brainless to suggest that to copy a curry you see being cooked on YouTube you should always follow whatever quantities the chef in question throws out by way of commentary as he's thinking about a dozen other things at the same time.

If he said he was adding an African elephant to the curry but you saw him putting a small spoon of mix powder in, which would you add when trying to reproduce the recipe?

SS may or may not be negative, but he's normally right on the money in terms of calling out BS when it happens!
Title: Re: Latif inspired base and chicken madras
Post by: littlechili on January 26, 2019, 05:29 PM
Nice looking Madras Andy, still like it Spicy I see  ;)