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Title: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: jalfreziT on March 01, 2019, 06:48 AM
It goes like this:

Members will develop their own curry recipes and go to the trouble of documenting these recipes on the forum.

Members will also freely give unconditional advice and support to others, driven purely by a shared love of curry.

At some point the forum owner decides that everyone should pay a tenner a year to access the forum content.

Members who gave freely wonder why they should pay a tenner, simply to view content they have freely given to the community. Few (if any) of the knowledgeable curry experts pay the tenner.

The only question is, what happens next,.....
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Argie Bhaji on March 01, 2019, 07:24 AM
I think the forum will die.

Andy
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: JonG on March 01, 2019, 08:09 AM
Have I missed something? Is this forum switching to a subscription model?
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: mickyp on March 01, 2019, 08:37 AM
No, JT is referring to another forum that has done that and which no doubt will die, through the action of making his forum a pay site the owner has truly bitten the hands of those that feed it.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: JonG on March 01, 2019, 02:20 PM
Ok I see. I’m relieved as I like the fact this place is free and informal.  I think a paywall model for forums is a bad idea, but people are free to do as they please I suppose.  If users have contributed content on the basis of it being a free access site and then they get shut out because new rules come in, I can see why they would be cheesed off.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: mickyp on March 01, 2019, 02:40 PM
Ok I see. I’m relieved as I like the fact this place is free and informal.  I think a paywall model for forums is a bad idea, but people are free to do as they please I suppose.  If users have contributed content on the basis of it being a free access site and then they get shut out because new rules come in, I can see why they would be cheesed off.

Cheesed off is putting it politely lol, not only have all the contributors been locked out the newbies coming in have to pay to view it.

Get a nice big  Oak tree when its full of healthy acorns, cut off the roots feeding it and as an added measure poison it,
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 01, 2019, 02:58 PM
Might one ask, without a full URL appearing in the answer, where this forum might be found ?
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: pap rika on March 01, 2019, 03:14 PM
Phil I believe they may be referring to this forum. Full URL included intentionally, most members know the elephant in the room http://www.bircurries.co.uk.

Regards pap rika
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: mickyp on March 01, 2019, 03:19 PM
Phil I believe they may be referring to this forum http://www.bircurries.co.uk.


No complete URL there :)
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: livo on March 01, 2019, 09:15 PM
Down the bottom right corner of that Page (just above the picture of the onion bhajis) it still says "Registration is free!"
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: spggodd on March 01, 2019, 11:46 PM
Hey guys,

So glad I found this website, most of my 'negative' posts get censored on the BIR forum now so I'm pretty much given up with CA and his bull.
Shame to loose the various reviews and content I've posted on here mind.. but I've got plenty more to offer here.

Long live this forum, seems very vibrant from my first look in.  ;D
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: jalfreziT on March 02, 2019, 06:58 AM
Looks like I won't get to see what happens next.  :)

My last post resulted in a permanent ban.

Yes you won't receive any personal abuse from me, but you will get a fair, honest and polite opinion (as has been the case with all my posts on the internet).

Your choice whether to publish it, as my posts now seem to be subject to moderation before they are viewable. I have to wonder if that makes me feel trusted.

And there is my dilemma. I know I have the option to become a paid up member but what is my own trust level of what I might receive in return?

I know that many of those who openly shared their own recipes, and other helpful information with this community, are now somewhat disappointed that,
a) they cannot access their own content without "paying to view", and b) someone else is now financially benefitting from "selling" the content they gave so freely in the first place.

Previously and on many occasions I have supported your right to do what you wish with your forum, and that opinion remains unchanged. However I have some concern that you have made a grave error of judgement in taking the forum in this direction. You may have bitten the very hand that feeds the forum.

Written, as always, with the very best interest of those who wish to share enjoyment of their hobby with like-minded folks on the internet.


It's up to him what he does with his forum. I'm not going to criticise him. My only sympathies are with those who have lost their old home to share their hobby.

Luckily quite a few have now migrated to this community. Hopefully we can bring some energy, enthusiasm and helpful information.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Gav Iscon on March 02, 2019, 08:54 AM
Funny that he used to complain about Happy Chris wanting to sell his book (that never happened), saying that this forum should be about sharing information for free and you shouldn't profit.
He tried to sell the whole thing a while ago but with no takers.

For all the disagreements  on this site, there is a wealth of information if you're prepared to dig.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: mickyp on March 02, 2019, 09:36 AM
Looks like I won't get to see what happens next.  :)

My last post resulted in a permanent ban.

Yes you won't receive any personal abuse from me, but you will get a fair, honest and polite opinion (as has been the case with all my posts on the internet).

Your choice whether to publish it, as my posts now seem to be subject to moderation before they are viewable. I have to wonder if that makes me feel trusted.

























And there is my dilemma. I know I have the option to become a paid up member but what is my own trust level of what I might receive in return?

I know that many of those who openly shared their own recipes, and other helpful information with this community, are now somewhat disappointed that,
a) they cannot access their own content without "paying to view", and b) someone else is now financially benefitting from "selling" the content they gave so freely in the first place.

Previously and on many occasions I have supported your right to do what you wish with your forum, and that opinion remains unchanged. However I have some concern that you have made a grave error of judgement in taking the forum in this direction. You may have bitten the very hand that feeds the forum.

Written, as always, with the very best interest of those who wish to share enjoyment of their hobby with like-minded folks on the internet.


It's up to him what he does with his forum. I'm not going to criticise him. My only sympathies are with those who have lost their old home to share their hobby.

Luckily quite a few have now migrated to this community. Hopefully we can bring some energy, enthusiasm and helpful information.



Well all i said was Eloquently put and i support every word and i got banned as well....

Hey ho onwards and upwards, Chicken Tikka tonight, pics to follow.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: jalfreziT on March 02, 2019, 11:03 AM
Well all i said was Eloquently put and i support every word and i got banned as well....

Ouch, sorry to have guided you in to trouble.


Hey ho onwards and upwards, Chicken Tikka tonight, pics to follow.

Westy's Madras already prepared here :)
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Madrasandy on March 02, 2019, 11:09 AM


Westy's Madras already prepared here :)

Westy Madras?, I don’t see this recipe on the forum, would you care to elaborate
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: jalfreziT on March 02, 2019, 11:21 AM


Westy's Madras already prepared here :)

Westy Madras?, I don’t see this recipe on the forum, would you care to elaborate

It's probably the best Madras recipe I have tried, and I think it is worthy of sharing. My only dilemma at the moment is whether I can/could/should share the recipes I have without consulting the original "author".
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Madrasandy on March 02, 2019, 11:28 AM
Pretty pointless mentioning that Madras on this forum then really
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 02, 2019, 11:36 AM
Pretty pointless mentioning that Madras on this forum then really

I would respectfully disagree.  If there is a Madras that is better than any to be found here, then I for one am grateful to learn of its existence.  Given the recent introduction of a paywall on "the other site", there is (it seems to me) a good chance that others will continue to migrate from there to here, and if Westy is one of them, I would hate for him to read here that we were not interested in his recipe.

** Phil.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Madrasandy on March 02, 2019, 11:40 AM
And until that point Phil, pretty pointless.
“Here’s what you could have won....”
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: jalfreziT on March 02, 2019, 11:41 AM
Pretty pointless mentioning that Madras on this forum then really

It was a reply directly to MickyP. Maybe I should have sent that as a PM.

.I'm currently trying to work out how more recipe content could be brought to this forum. So please.... try not to be so confrontational.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: pap rika on March 02, 2019, 11:59 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if westy,s or anybody else's recipes were placed on a non paying forum/website, (which it was prior to CAs takeover) with the intention of viewers, members or non members having the ability to download or share, does that not make it public domain

Regards pap rika
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 02, 2019, 12:19 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if westy,s or anybody else's recipes were placed on a non paying forum/website, (which it was prior to CAs takeover) with the intention of viewers, members or non members having the ability to download or share, does that not make it public domain

No, just because something is made publicly accessible does not, of itself, also place it in the public domain.  Copyright remains with the original author unless he/she has agreed to waive that right or to share it with (e.g.,) the forum owner.  Our own Ts & Cs read (in part)

Quote
14) Rights In Posted Materials: By posting on this message board, you relinquish all exclusive copyrights to any materials you Post and furthermore, you grant Curry-Recipes.co.uk non-exclusive, non-revocable worldwide, royalty-free rights to copy, distribute, display, reproduce, modify, adapt, create derivative works, and publicly perform the materials in perpetuity in all forms. This license applies to all works of authorship including, but not limited to, written materials (e.g., text), audio, audio-visual materials, graphics, and images (including, but not limited to, graphics and images used as avatars). You also grant all third parties the right to copy, distribute, display, reproduces, and publicly perform the materials you post under the terms of the Creative Commons License. Curry-Recipes.co.uk has the authority to decide to display your postings or not, and you grant Curry-Recipes.co.uk the right to modify your posts, remove offensive material, modify your post title to accurately reflect content, remove vulgar comments, remove insults, or delete any other content deemed inappropriate, all at our discretion. This clause will survive even if your membership ceases from the forum.

Note in particular "You also grant all third parties the right to copy, distribute, display, reproduces, and publicly perform the materials you post under the terms of the Creative Commons License".  Unless there is a similar statement in the dark side's Ts & Cs, then third parties (i.e., members, the public at large), do not gain that right.

** Phil.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: pap rika on March 02, 2019, 12:40 PM
Thanks Phil, (the dark side) love it,
                   
Regards pap rika
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: curryhell on March 02, 2019, 01:57 PM
Alternatively jalfreziT, post your interpretation of the madras and give credit to Westy providing the inspiration for your take on on his recipe.  For those disaffected members from the dark side now joining CR0, firstly a warm welcome.  It will be good to see new members posting about BIR and there experiences of cooking it and mastering the art.  Secondly, don't feel too much angst about replicating information on here.  A very large proportion of the darkside's initial and subsequent content was plagiarised from this forum in the first instance, as many members from here who have visited stalag BIRCurries can testify, myself included!! And for those who don't know, Westy (under a  different  "nick") was a member here for some time before being lured elsewhere.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: mickyp on March 02, 2019, 02:01 PM
Interestingly CA was always a stickler for asking if people posting "recipes" had the authors permission, which is fair and both right and proper.
Now if people on that forum develop dishes as we do by experimenting and then share the recipe and results on that forum like a :cloud: base storage, they now find themselves in a position where without paying they can no longer access their own creations / recipes,
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: mickyp on March 02, 2019, 02:05 PM
Alternatively jalfreziT, post your interpretation of the madras and give credit to Westy providing the inspiration for your take on on his recipe.  For those disaffected members from the dark side now joining CR0, firstly a warm welcome.  It will be good to see new members posting about BIR and there experiences of cooking it and mastering the art.  Secondly, don't feel too much angst about replicating information on here.  A very large proportion of the darkside's initial and subsequent content was plagiarised from this forum in the first instance, as many members from here who have visited stalag BIRCurries can testify, myself included!! And for those who don't know, Westy (under a  different  "nick") was a member here for some time before being lured elsewhere.

Interpretation is "cool" that would work :)
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: curryhell on March 02, 2019, 02:13 PM
Quote
Interestingly CA was always a stickler for asking if people posting "recipes" had the authors permission, which is fair and both right and proper.

Lip service I would say.  There is plenty of evidence where he has done the direct opposite - the expression "when it suits" springs to mind.  Enough of the darkside, enjoy everything this forum has to offer and look forward to all new contributions.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: pap rika on March 02, 2019, 06:24 PM
Alternatively jalfreziT, post your interpretation of the madras and give credit to Westy providing the inspiration for your take on on his recipe.  For those disaffected members from the dark side now joining CR0, firstly a warm welcome.  It will be good to see new members posting about BIR and there experiences of cooking it and mastering the art.  Secondly, don't feel too much angst about replicating information on here.  A very large proportion of the darkside's initial and subsequent content was plagiarised from this forum in the first instance, as many members from here who have visited stalag BIRCurries can testify, myself included!! And for those who don't know, Westy (under a  different  "nick") was a member here for some time before being lured elsewhere.
Curryhell, you mentioned westy was once a member on this forum under a different name, do we have any links to his posts

Regards pap rika
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: curryhell on March 02, 2019, 08:59 PM
On this site he was known as Colin Grigson.  You can use the search facility to bring his posts.  Alas he did not post a madras recipe on here but I remember him for his simple dhal recipe - very nice indeed.  Of course, this was soon replicated elsewhere.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: pap rika on March 02, 2019, 11:30 PM
Many thanks CH  :)

Regards pap rika
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Naga on March 03, 2019, 07:47 AM
On this site he was known as Colin Grigson.  You can use the search facility to bring his posts.  Alas he did not post a madras recipe on here but I remember him for his simple dhal recipe - very nice indeed.  Of course, this was soon replicated elsewhere.

Wow! A blast from the past! (Colin, not you, Dave lol!)

I can vouch for Colin's Massur Dhal (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=7901.msg69597#msg69597) - I still use his recipe. Simple, but very moreish. I wondered where he'd gone!
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Edwin Catflap on March 03, 2019, 10:54 AM
Colin's aka Westys madras

http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/80872f807ba4b608ad5afe7668300564.jpeg
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: colin grigson on March 03, 2019, 03:45 PM
Hi Guys ,
I’m still here and regularly cooking curries - good to hear so many have migrated over after Cory introduced the fee to view his forum. I posted a few recipes there and I’m happy to share them here too in due course ..... and if you’ll have me back  ;)
Best wishes to all of you !
Colin / Westy
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Edwin Catflap on March 03, 2019, 03:50 PM
WElcome back me old mucker! I’ve posted your Madras recipe which I’m sure will go down a storm

Ed
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 03, 2019, 05:39 PM
Welcome back, Colin — great to see so many returning from the dark side !
** Phil.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: spggodd on March 03, 2019, 05:52 PM
Oh dear.. just received my permanent ban from BIR for Thanking your post JalferziT  :P ah well, good riddance!

Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: mickyp on March 03, 2019, 08:13 PM
Oh dear.. just received my permanent ban from BIR for Thanking your post JalferziT  :P ah well, good riddance!

Tut tut, can't keep an eye out to see what's happening now lol
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on March 03, 2019, 08:41 PM
The owner of the 'other' forum had control issues, in my opinion.

This was evidenced on here many times.

He liked to challenge others.

He hated being challenged himself.

If he were Prime Minister he'd make the current Government looks like a bunch of moderates.

Karma.

"We aim to be the premier internet resource for everything to do with replicating British Indian Restaurant curries at home!"

No cigar.

Welcome to all here at CRO.

Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: pap rika on March 03, 2019, 09:17 PM
Colin's aka Westys madras

http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/80872f807ba4b608ad5afe7668300564.jpeg
EC/westy thanks for the recipe, have included an attachment of the recipe below in a clearer format

Regards pap rika
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: curryhell on March 03, 2019, 09:28 PM
Welcome back, Colin — great to see so many returning from the dark side !
** Phil.

Here here!!!


The owner of the 'other' forum had control issues, in my opinion.

This was evidenced on here many times.

He liked to challenge others.

He hated being challenged himself.

If he were Prime Minister he'd make the current Government looks like a bunch of moderates.

Welcome to all here at CRO.

+1  ;D
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: livo on March 03, 2019, 10:55 PM
Here's an idea for a new Pinned thread in the Newbies section. New members signing up could be advised to "Read This First". 

The Cory Ander story. Early days, the division, the defections, £10, exodus and the return to freedom.

The chapter could be made pre-requisite for all CRO newbies (added to the T&C's) lest they find themselves completely and utterly confused by mere reference to the man and his legacy.  An independent research journalist could be appointed, charged with doing an explosive, investigative documentary featuring sit down interviews with the who's who of BIR internet fora. 
Soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxtfdH3-TQ4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxtfdH3-TQ4)

I've read in a few places now that he lives and runs his site from here in Australia.  The crafty blighter!  Is there any truth to this? 

Does anybody suspect that the Dark Lord could be back among us now?  There have been other times when suspicions have arisen of he himself lurking here under the guise of some other fiendishly thought out nom de plume. With so many banishings and defections occurring presently, what would prevent this from happening again?
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Bob-A-Job on March 04, 2019, 01:47 AM
Not sure I would go that far but I have spotted at least once, a poster who could have been open about who they really were.

That is not really an option in this case though as I presume, whilst they every 'right' to apply and join, their experience may not be, err, comfortable, if found out (as long as they don't post... tempting as that might be).

BAJ
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: livo on March 04, 2019, 04:42 AM
BAJ. Don't take me too literally on this one.   ;D  I should have used a few emoticons to show that I was tongue in cheek with the suggestion.    ;) ;) ;)   Well mostly anyhow.  Certainly a knowledge and understanding of the actual history is interesting and adds clarity to an otherwise confused mess, but the notion of it being mandatory is completely in jest. 

You are correct that the possibility exists for anybody to present as a new member in order to infiltrate and monitor the goings on of this forum.  Maybe it has happened before and will again.  A big Cheerio to CA if you're out there reading this.  :D  There are certainly many sleeper members and even some of the new arrivals aren't really that new although there post activity is low (until recently).

When I first joined this forum the wounds were still relatively fresh (less than a year had passed) and I had absolutely no idea what was going on when in numerous threads different members were here and there being cried out as CA in disguise. 8)  Nobody was fooled apparently, but I still don't how many, if any, were actually him. Perhaps it was actually him or maybe at least a few innocent newbies were left bewildered and confused at being accused thus.

If Mel Brooks were to make History of the World Part 2, this episode would surely get a run as a potential feature.

I see one of his last postings make reference to the antipodeans so maybe he is down here close to home.  I wonder what he thinks of Australian curry.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Donald Brasco on March 04, 2019, 06:41 AM
I do feel a bit sorry for CA, as he must be the most persecuted man in home curry cooking forum history. Every man and his dog seems to want to have a dig and it all stems from the fact that he wasn’t satisfied with the state of discussion about BIR and wanted a more structured discussion and to try to make more progress towards improving the info available to beginners (as I see it).

Having said that I can see both sides of the argument as I didn’t last very long on his forum!

Like Frank Sinatra, at least he did it his way.  8)
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: mickyp on March 04, 2019, 10:42 AM
I do feel a bit sorry for CA, as he must be the most persecuted man in home curry cooking forum history. Every man and his dog seems to want to have a dig and it all stems from the fact that he wasn’t satisfied with the state of discussion about BIR and wanted a more structured discussion and to try to make more progress towards improving the info available to beginners (as I see it).

Having said that I can see both sides of the argument as I didn’t last very long on his forum!

Like Frank Sinatra, at least he did it his way.  8)

I agree with the points you have raised, I am sure his ego will bring him here to find out what is being said, hopefully common sense will allow him to read, digest, and take on board the constructive criticism he finds and have something positive come out of it.
Its sad that he permanently bans people who were and are continueing to gently try and show him the error of his ways.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on March 04, 2019, 12:08 PM

I've read in a few places now that he lives and runs his site from here in Australia.  The crafty blighter!  Is there any truth to this? 


Yes, that is true, well at least it is understood that he lived there when he was on this site.

Every man and his dog seems to want to have a dig and it all stems from the fact that he wasn’t satisfied with the state of discussion about BIR and wanted a more structured discussion and to try to make more progress towards improving the info available to beginners (as I see it).


I don't see it like that. Yes, he wanted structured discussion but it was according to his structures and rules and then he wanted to reprimand those who didn't want to do things his way. In my opinion, it was a case of "my way or the highway" and he chose the highway.

By the way just to get my dig in, his site looks as if it was designed by a 6-year-old.

Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on March 04, 2019, 12:11 PM

I agree with the points you have raised, I am sure his ego will bring him here to find out what is being said, hopefully common sense will allow him to read, digest, and take on board the constructive criticism he finds and have something positive come out of it.
Its sad that he permanently bans people who were and are continueing to gently try and show him the error of his ways.

That's very optimistic, and positive spirited of you mickyp. I think though he lacks self-awareness in abundance, so I suspect that this will not happen. He will seek to apportion blame to others, just like a certain '45'. Covfefe.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: chewytikka on March 04, 2019, 12:37 PM
Not bothered either way who joins, lurks or supposedly returns to cR0, as it is a free and open forum.
It would be nice to think they bring new and original content with them, to add to this resource.
But I doubt that to be the case as the Les Jones (CA) site was a blatant copy of cR0 in the first place.
Furthermore he did not break any original ground with it, just a load of expats trying to make a curry they remember eating somewhere over the rainbow.

How many of the refugees are expats and how many cR0 membars are still members of CAs site and are paying to be remainers there.

CA did do an enjoyable video of him trying to make Pilau rice
Worth a watch

https://youtu.be/uGYNuKhKDOs?t=176

cheers Chewy

__ DB your talking BS
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Garp on March 04, 2019, 01:08 PM
For any new members, CT is our version of CA.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: mickyp on March 04, 2019, 01:30 PM
Not bothered either way who joins, lurks or supposedly returns to cR0, as it is a free and open forum.
It would be nice to think they bring new and original content with them, to add to this resource.
But I doubt that to be the case as the Les Jones (CA) site was a blatant copy of cR0 in the first place.
Furthermore he did not break any original ground with it, just a load of expats trying to make a curry they remember eating somewhere over the rainbow.

How many of the refugees are expats and how many cR0 membars are still members of CAs site and are paying to be remainers there.

CA did do an enjoyable video of him trying to make Pilau rice
Worth a watch

https://youtu.be/uGYNuKhKDOs?t=176

cheers Chewy

__ DB your talking BS

To answer your question about paid up remainers i think very few, when me made it a pay site he granted full membership to a few core active members, he had to otherwise he would have had no "paid" up full members to show in "red" he then dumped the grace period and they all reverted back to blue, so out of it i think only one or two.
I cant get on now but it seemed to me activity had dropped a noticeable amount.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 04, 2019, 03:57 PM
Well, that's the first time in my life that I have felt sorry for CA.  Jolly good display of archetypal British stiff upper lip, I thought.
** Phil. 
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Secret Santa on March 04, 2019, 05:22 PM
Who's CA?
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: pap rika on March 04, 2019, 07:27 PM
I'll assume your not taking the piss!!!! (CA aka Cory Ander)

Regards pap rika
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Naga on March 05, 2019, 08:02 AM
Who's CA?

+1 - This is all water under the bridge for CR0. The subject is already generating snide comments. Let's leave the past where it belongs - in the past.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: mickyp on March 05, 2019, 02:17 PM
Who's CA?

+1 - This is all water under the bridge for CR0. The subject is already generating snide comments. Let's leave the past where it belongs - in the past.

Good Idea. :)
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: George on March 05, 2019, 10:27 PM
CAs time on here is in the past, of course, but I believe there are always lessons to learn from history. As for his forum, I had to smile when I read he was thinking of jacking it in a year or two ago, because it was taking up too much of his time,. It shares a few similarities with Andy's pathetic attempt to do better than cr0 - far too many rules and absurd restrictions, like needing to make 'meaningful' posts before being able to read much. I question his judgment, like posting a video supposedly about pilau rice and not even completing it, even if there was a gap of several weeks in the middle, due to his accident. Judgment again. How many people fall off a chair?
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: jalfreziT on March 07, 2019, 07:55 AM
I do feel a bit sorry for CA, as he must be the most persecuted man in home curry cooking forum history

I feel a bit sorry for him too (despite joining the many who have been on the  sharp end of his "permanent ban").

The way I see it, one person having disagreements with one or two other people on the internet is normal. But for one person to have such conflict with so many suggests (a possibly undiagnosed) mental health issue. If that is the case, and I can't see any other explanation, then I've got bucket loads more sympathy than criticism.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: peshwarinaan on March 17, 2019, 06:29 PM
Just visited BIRcurries for the first time in a few months and discovered the paywall. I think it's crazy. And it's not even legal to put user-copyrighted content behind a paywall.

What the hell are they thinking? Most of us just want to cook curries.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: jalfreziT on March 19, 2019, 04:40 PM
Don't sweat it Peshwarinaan  :)   The traffic on the other site is dropping quicker than a highwayman in Tyburn. You're better off here. A friendly bunch, with an adequate sprinkling of obnoxious members to keep it interesting   ;D
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Mark Yeadon on October 31, 2019, 10:03 PM
Im so glad the said aforementioned forum is been been lambasted, i was a member and found the main man ( we all know who it is) to be a very rude and had little man syndrome!!!
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Donald Brasco on November 01, 2019, 10:51 AM
I’ve got total respect for the fact he was willing to put the effort in to try to improve the standard of BIR discussion and make progress towards better cooking BIR at home, but let’s face it, he failed with his forum. Maybe if he’d set it up, installed some sensible moderators then taken a step back, it would have been a different story.

With his people skills, actually running a forum was never going to be his strong suit, and despite his meticulously documented recipes which drew many folk in, I never felt he was much good at cooking curry either (or standing on chairs come to think of it). I wasted ingredients on one of his base sauce recipes then vowed never again. But his clearly written, very specific, recipes clearly did attract a following.

But! Hats off to him for having a try anyway. People don’t give the guy enough credit IMHO.  If nothing else he gave us a few years of argument-free enjoyment of CR0 by his leaving this place! No doubt once his CR0 rip-off (tm CT) site folds he will sneak back in here. The name will be different but the chippy attitude will be unmistakable. 
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on November 01, 2019, 11:43 AM
Donald's assessment seems very fair and balanced to me, but I don't think that it is in this site's best interests if we use its resources to discuss former members.  May I therefore respectfully request that we regard this topic as closed, and move on to more relevant and interesting discussions ?

** Phil.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: jalfreziT on November 01, 2019, 12:37 PM
Donald's assessment seems very fair and balanced to me, but I don't think that it is in this site's best interests if we use its resources to discuss former members.  May I therefore respectfully request that we regard this topic as closed, and move on to more relevant and interesting discussions ?

** Phil.

I don't think I've every disagreed with a post you've made, until now.

Whilst the other site is still running, there will always be a trickle of leavers who will end up here.
Some might have put work in to documentating, photographing and posting their own recipes on the other site, only to find themselves banned and no longer able to access their own work. Meanwhile they know the site owner is charging newcomers to view someone' else's work.

Ask yourself, are those people going to be just slightly annoyed?

If they end up here, do they want someone to say, "the topic is closed, move on" ?

Or do they want someone to say, "Hey newcomer, welcome! Pull up a chair, have a cup of tea, and tell us all about it. Get it off your chest, and after that we'll tell you what a great friendly community we are, and how warmly we welcome you".
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on November 01, 2019, 12:42 PM
Many thanks for your comments, JT, which are much appreciated.  I genuinely believed that such discussion was not helpful (particularly if it focusses on an individual), but if you disagree then others may as well, so I would seek guidance from Yousef as to what site policy is (or should be) on such matters.

** Phil.
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Secret Santa on November 01, 2019, 12:49 PM
Some might have put work in to documentating, photographing and posting their own recipes on the other site, only to find themselves banned and no longer able to access their own work.

When you signed up to the site there no doubt was a clause giving total ownership of all posts to the site owner. You either failed to read it or ignored it and thus paid the price. Life lesson. Move on. And also be glad that this forum is so accommodating to those who have [moderated: "chosen to return here after becoming disillusioned with the other place"].
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: jalfreziT on November 01, 2019, 01:49 PM
Some might have put work in to documentating, photographing and posting their own recipes on the other site, only to find themselves banned and no longer able to access their own work.

When you signed up to the site there no doubt was a clause giving total ownership of all posts to the site owner. You either failed to read it or ignored it and thus paid the price. Life lesson. Move on.

Um, I have to admit to having never posted my recipes on the other forum.
My post was speaking from a position of altruism. I don't doubt you will need to look that one up. Yes, dig was intended   :evil:
Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Onions on November 01, 2019, 02:31 PM
When you signed up to the site there no doubt was a clause giving total ownership of all posts to the site owner. You either failed to read it or ignored it and thus paid the price. Life lesson. Move on. And also be glad that this forum is so accommodating to those who have [moderated: "chosen to return here after becoming disillusioned with the other place"].

Yes, probably something like: (https://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=11511.0)

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Title: Re: I've had an idea for a forum!
Post by: Ghoulie on November 02, 2019, 04:02 PM
I do believe I meandered into said site thinking it would be a friendly curry orientated good natured forum. How wrong can one be.  Insulting members seemed to be the main objective for more than one person there - so much so - being on the receiving end, I beat a hasty retreat, incurring a ban for my farewell comments. C’est la vie.  Never did suffer fools gladly.