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Title: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 02, 2020, 09:49 AM
Well the water levels aren't rising, but there is a significant barbecue event going on down here at the moment.  We are now staining New Zealand's glaciers and affecting their air quality over 2000 km away.  Bush meat aplenty and already cooked if you want to eat Koala.  Not much control over the level of spice or smoke though.  Farmers are shooting their scorched domesticated animals where they drop to prevent further suffering.  Reports are that 500 million animals have already perished in NSW alone. Some species will be unable to recover "EVER".  3.5 million hectares of land has already burned and they are predicting Saturday to be worse than any other day yet.  The size of Belgium plus more has already burnt in NSW alone.  All of the country is ablaze.  4000 people are stranded on beaches and the Navy is conducting a mini Dunkirk rescue of selected people in Victoria.

But we continue to sell coal and use accounting tricks based on the Kyoto protocol. Go figure.  Economy over planet in clear view.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 05, 2020, 07:16 AM
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/animals/horror-vision-of-the-drive-into-batlow-in-nsw-shows-dozens-of-dead-animals-along-the-road/news-story/2d60856fcc77c3e81f71fbc486873e05 (https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/animals/horror-vision-of-the-drive-into-batlow-in-nsw-shows-dozens-of-dead-animals-along-the-road/news-story/2d60856fcc77c3e81f71fbc486873e05)

Do not believe the reports you may be reading over there that this is the work of arsonists.  Primarily it is not.  While some of it may be, it is clearly the work of mother nature. These fires are creating their own weather environments.  Dry thunderstorms, lightning, ember attacks up to 15 to 20 km ahead of the fire front. Winds strong enough to flip fire trucks and kill the drivers.  Yes, it happened. Scorching temperatures up to 48.9'C in Western Sydney yesterday and acknowledged as the hottest place on the planet. Penrith, the home of the Penrith Panthers.  I have dead dry burnt black gum leaves dropping on my yard every day. Thankfully not still alight at this stage.

Whole historic townships are being destroyed.  We have the largest ever civil evacuations taking place and the Government has for the first time in history introduced the military into rescue and humanitarian response on our own soil other than defense.

I'm not allowed to light my tandoor but neither would I.  Needless to say I'm not too concerned about my chilli crop or cooking a curry.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 05, 2020, 07:29 AM
How's Brexit going?
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 05, 2020, 08:07 AM
If the planet's population doesn't see this as as the earliest indicator of global doom, then I'm a glad person that I'm old enough to be probably dead before it really hits the fan.  I fear for my kids and have advised them against procreating a next generation. (How sad is that?  A father telling his daughter's not to have his own grandchildren?)

Jeremy Clarkson has been widely criticized for his review on Australia.  The thing is, apart from his religious spin on it, he is 100% correct. Which means he is absolutely wrong.

God didn't do this as there is no God.  There is no Allah. There is no supreme being. 

We did this to our own planet.  Humans.  It has all taken place here on earth in the last 2 centuries or so since the wonderful age of the Industrial revolution.  No divine intervention to be seen.  The prosperity for mankind (or for a few of them anyway), spelled doom for the planet.  Oil, coal, food and water. Precious metal to secure the value.  Paper money is irrelevant as has been witnessed in several economies.  Pray as hard as you like, no prayers will fix this.  If you believe in God and you are young, prepare to meet your maker.  If you're old and cynical like me, prepare to get older slowly, or maybe not much older.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 05, 2020, 09:17 AM
https://7news.com.au/news/vic/haunting-devil-face-captured-amid-victorian-bushfires-in-east-gippsland-c-630943 (https://7news.com.au/news/vic/haunting-devil-face-captured-amid-victorian-bushfires-in-east-gippsland-c-630943)

But here is the haunting devil's face in the smoke to keep you non-believers in line.

I think someone saw the face of Christ on a piece of toast once or twice.  Only he wasn't a black negro but perfectly white, just like the textbook Anglo-saxon Jesus we all expect to see from our bible classes and church murals. Funny that, hey? I wonder if the Muslims see Allah in their toast.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 05, 2020, 09:31 AM
Apparently not, according to google.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Donald Brasco on January 05, 2020, 11:48 AM
Sorry to see you upset like this livo. You
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 05, 2020, 10:14 PM
I did have a couple of fine whiskeys Donald, however, they are not to be blamed.  I'm still just as upset this morning.  The tipping point is the devastation to the ecology and the shear volume of suffering and death of what was estimated to be over 500 million animals. That was several days ago and the situation has been far worse since, so we can only assume the number has continued to rise, and significantly.

It's estimated that half of the koala population of Kangaroo Island in South Australia, possibly 25000, have perished on a single day along with 2 people. People can mostly flee given adequate warning. For these animals there is no escape. Birds, reptiles, mammals and marsupials are dead in the hundreds of millions and there is no end in sight. Many still remain alive and injured and for those that have survived there is no feed or water.

Clarkson's article was a light-hearted piece about God setting fire to Australia to cover up his mistakes. The fires are proof that the continent is uninhabitable for humans. He invited us all to come back home to the UK,  where it rains all the time and says we'll love it. I don't take it seriously but many have.

Climate change is real. How much of it is anthropogenic will never be known. Can we change it? Probably not. Should we try? Of course. Will it happen?  I doubt it.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Bob-A-Job on January 06, 2020, 02:35 AM
Livo,

I really have no understanding of what it is like over there right now, other than media.  I do however have family in both Secret Harbour, Perth and South Island, New Zealand, so my concerns are real.

I have made my position clear on Climate Change when the boards were quiet, so I don't need to reiterate those views.

The devastation Australia is facing and that Koala's are now 'functionaly extinct', along with probably many other species should be a wake up but unfortunately they have no quantifiable 'VALUE' to those making decisions there and around the world, so you might as well pray to a God for change.

Personally, I do believe there are too many people on the planet and since WWIII would solve the problem irrevocably, it would also destroy everything else, so maybe just a CME of the type that comes around every 100 years or so and which we dodged in 2012 is the answer.

My thoughts are with you, yours and all those effected.  May it end soon.

BAJ
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 06, 2020, 08:25 AM
A CME is presumably a coronal mass ejection, Bob ?
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Bob-A-Job on January 06, 2020, 01:48 PM
A CME is presumably a coronal mass ejection, Bob ?

Yes.

They happen fairly regularly and 'often' in geological terms.  The solar energetic particles strike the Earth with such force that it ionizes the atmosphere, creating a vast cloud of energetic electrons that bounce around inside the atmosphere destroying electronics and fusing conductive wires everywhere.

The 2012 event missed us by a hair's breadth
The 1989 event caused the Quebec blackout
The 1859 event destroyed much of the Victorian telegraph network in Europe and North America

We have just about covered the planet since then with networks that rely on power.

Now imagine a planet with no electricity or electrical systems.... no communication, no transport, no energy, no water, no hospitals, no drugs, only a few days of food, farming set back to the middle ages, etc.

I won't sugar coat it, it is a very very scary thought but would probably be the only way to make a Global difference to Climate change and allow Nature to take the planet back under control however I won't pray to the Sun for one but it would be poetic justice if we won't heed the warnings and do something about only for the Sun to reset the balance.  Yes, we can shield electrical systems and infrastructure from it and be safe but again, that reduces profit and is also seen as 'unnecessary'.

I fear that for all our hubris, we will never learn.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: George on January 06, 2020, 02:34 PM
Couldn't the Australian authorities have guarded against such a catastrophe  by setting up fire breaks every so far?
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 06, 2020, 09:28 PM
I don't think you understand the magnitude of this event George, or the size of the continent and the fact that it is mainly wilderness that is burning.  Of course it is impacting wherever this wilderness adjoins developed farmland and communities.  These fires are jumping rivers and spotting from ember attacks 10 - 15 km ahead of the fire front. No amount of firebreaks, even if it were possible, would do much to halt the progress of these fires.

The smoke is now across the Pacific Ocean in Chile.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/the-photos-that-sum-up-australias-horrific-unprecedented-bushfire-crisis/news-story/0cb198e61d52a9cb4289232ff3b0ab7c (https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/the-photos-that-sum-up-australias-horrific-unprecedented-bushfire-crisis/news-story/0cb198e61d52a9cb4289232ff3b0ab7c)
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 11, 2020, 07:30 AM
Current estimate is that over 1 Billion animals have died.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/more-than-one-billion-animals-killed-in-australian-fires/news-story/d78d8751c15e35710ba68b82b3023af0 (https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/more-than-one-billion-animals-killed-in-australian-fires/news-story/d78d8751c15e35710ba68b82b3023af0)
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 11, 2020, 09:33 AM
Whilst not seeking to play down the seriousness of the catastrophe, I would mention that a Radio 4 programme yesterday did cast doubt on the methodology by which that figure was derived.  It is, essentially, an extrapolation based on very limited sampling, and assumes that 100% of the wildlife previously resident in the affected areas have died, whereas (as the programme pointed out) the indigenous species have evolved to expect fire as a routine part of life, and have evolved escape strategies accordingly.  Even the death of one koala, or one possum, or whatever, is one too many, but we should not accept the figure quoted as necessarily being accurate.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 11, 2020, 10:30 AM
Phil, I would agree with a large part of that, under normal circumstances.  While there may be some doubt about exact numbers, these are not what anybody considers normal circumstances.  The current fires are unlike anything these animals would ever have encountered before. Quite simply, inescapable.  Multiple massive and intense fires spreading rapidly in all directions, spotting ahead of themselves and joining to create mega-fires. Fleeing one fire is taking them straight into the path of another and another until they are trapped with nowhere left to flee to. Along with that is the intense heat and lack of oxygen in the air.  4 days ago the area burnt was over 8.4 million hectares, over 1/3 the size of Britain and it is far from over.  Also recognize that the numbers estimated includes reptiles and smaller, slower tree living marsupials which don't have the same ability to flee as large kangaroo.

"WWF-Australia estimates around 1,25 billion animals may have been killed directly or indirectly from fires that have burnt 8.4 million hectares across Australia (equivalent to the whole of country of Austria).

These figures have been calculated using methodology that estimates the impacts of land clearing on Australian wildlife and extrapolates upon the science of Prof Chris Dickman from The University of Sydney."

Who is going to quibble over whether or not the figure is 100% accurate? Even 50% accuracy is still a complete disaster.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 11, 2020, 11:16 AM
Who is going to quibble over whether or not the figure is 100% accurate? Even 50% accuracy is still a complete disaster.

I'm not quibbling, Livo
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 11, 2020, 11:54 AM
No argument from me. I wasn't suggesting it was you quibbling Phil. Just a turn of phrase in general.  The fact is we won't know the full implications for some time and all we need to know is the number is huge.
My eldest daughter spent today volunteering in a warehouse in Sydney with 300 other people and their sewing machines sewing survival garments and pouches for injured and orphaned animals. It's on again tomorrow. There are workshops where people are building habitat survival boxes for possums and tons of carrots and sweet potatoes are being air dropped to feed critical colonies of wallaby.
Possibly the most amazing thing is the apparent knowledge and unusual behaviour exhibited by some koala. These wild animals seem to know that humans can help them. They willingly seek out and approach for aid and comfort.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 11, 2020, 12:40 PM
No argument from me. I wasn't suggesting it was you quibbling Phil. Just a turn of phrase in general.  The fact is we won't know the full implications for some time and all we need to know is the number is huge.  My eldest daughter spent today volunteering in a warehouse in Sydney with 300 other people and their sewing machines sewing survival garments and pouches for injured and orphaned animals. It's on again tomorrow. There are workshops where people are building habitat survival boxes for possums and tons of carrots and sweet potatoes are being air dropped to feed critical colonies of wallaby.
It is both heart-warming and reassuring to know that people do care, and are willing to help in this way.

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Possibly the most amazing thing is the apparent knowledge and unusual behaviour exhibited by some koala. These wild animals seem to know that humans can help them. They willingly seek out and approach for aid and comfort.

That is indeed amazing, and there is at least one (probably many many) videos on Youtube of animals seeking help in such circumstances, and even of wild animals helping other animals of other species ...

** Phil.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Ghoulie on January 16, 2020, 03:19 PM
Meanwhile in Oz - cretins set fire to a quokka - as if the problems weren't bad enough.  Drop them into the burning forests.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-32346835
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 16, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jesus Christ.  There are some stories that I just won't read, and that is one of them [1].  Another one on which I lit yesterday was "Gorilla shot dead with submachine gun after being burned in zoo fire", and also the earlier story about a gorilla (Harambe) who was shot dead after carrying a boy (who had entered his enclosure) up a ladder out of the moat into which he (the boy) had fallen onto dry land.  I weep for the animals, and I despair for those members of the human race who are capable of such actions.  I do not dispute for one second that the policeman who machine-gunned the burning gorilla believed that his actions were in the gorilla's best interests, and perhaps they were, but nonetheless, what an awful way for an innocent creature to die.

** Phil.
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[1] On the other hand, I had no qualms about reading this one (https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/19/dog-killer-dies-after-pet-owner-rams-him-into-a-brick-wall-with-his-car-7243259/), about a man who killed a dog-poisoner by ramming him against a wall with a car.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Ghoulie on January 17, 2020, 12:41 PM
My sentiments entirely Phil.  Oddly in this cold weather yesterday up norf, I found a bumble bee on its back in my driveway and detected a slight movement of one of its legs.  Remembering a bee revival article from years back,  I took it indoors and put it into a saucer with some sugar mixed with hot water and pushed its head towards the liquid in the middle of the saucer.  Almost immediately its proboscis flicked into the liquid and it began to drink some of it.  Shortly after, it was able to walk off the saucer.  Placed it among some leaves under my hedge - hoping it survives
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 17, 2020, 01:28 PM
I always do the same with moribund bees, Ghoulie, but being the trusting creature that I am, I put the sugar water in the palm of my hand and let them drink from that, because I find that the warmth of my hand is conducive to their regaining their strength more quickly (I revive mice the same way
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: mickyp on January 17, 2020, 02:33 PM
I bought a humane mouse trap after the cat started letting them go, this little one had a belly full of peanut butter before i let him scamp off, maybe a tad wiser about cats.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 17, 2020, 02:35 PM
Yes, I have half a dozen of those, and two larger versions for Ratty and his friends ...
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: mickyp on January 17, 2020, 02:36 PM
Same with Bumble Bees, it never fails to give me a little high when i help one out.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: mickyp on January 17, 2020, 02:40 PM
Its a funny thing as one gets older, even growing chillies, curry leaves and stuff, its like bringing new life into the world. creation far better than termination.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Ghoulie on January 17, 2020, 03:07 PM
I have a 0.22 airsporter bsa rifle for ratty et al
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 17, 2020, 03:50 PM
Well,  I live in the countryside (by choice) and so feel that I should be willing to share it with its natural inhabitants (inc. Ratty).  Rats may well be a problem in towns, but in the countryside they are (IMHO) just a part of the natural ecosystem ...
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: mickyp on January 17, 2020, 04:41 PM

BSA Airsporter

Until 1997 i had amongst others a Colt Python :smile:
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 17, 2020, 10:36 PM
Meanwhile in Oz - cretins set fire to a quokka - as if the problems weren't bad enough.  Drop them into the burning forests.

French cretins. "Two French tourists who filmed themselves burning a quokka have been fined by a court in Perth, Australia."
Not that we don't have a fair scattering of the home grown variety.  There are often reports of animal cruelty and we only see the worst offenders.  Makes you wonder why we're here.

Well in some parts of the country the water levels have risen overnight. We've gone from on fire to flooded in less than a week. Some areas are still burning but significant rainfall has been welcomed in many fire areas with some local creeks filling for the first time in 5 years. 

There is now an estimated 15.6 million hectares of land burnt.  The California fires were 400,000 and the term Mega Fire was first used to describe them. Nearly 40 times that area has now burnt down here in Oz.  The early estimated "cost" is placed at over Aus $100 billion.

And this? What is the cost of this? https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/heartbreaking-pictures-show-koala-mourning-dead-friend/news-story/a4358a49cd64d3bc8f66bea1e372da8d (https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/heartbreaking-pictures-show-koala-mourning-dead-friend/news-story/a4358a49cd64d3bc8f66bea1e372da8d)
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Ghoulie on January 19, 2020, 02:09 PM

BSA Airsporter

Until 1997 i had amongst others a Colt Python :smile:

Airsporter legal without need for licence and more than adequate for the vermin job.  Late Uncle of mine was a gun club member - had all sorts in his time .38, luger,magnum, derringer, beautiful .22 target pistol - sadly all turned in with gun laws changed.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: mickyp on January 19, 2020, 11:04 PM

BSA Airsporter

Until 1997 i had amongst others a Colt Python :smile:

Airsporter legal without need for licence and more than adequate for the vermin job.  Late Uncle of mine was a gun club member - had all sorts in his time .38, luger,magnum, derringer, beautiful .22 target pistol - sadly all turned in with gun laws changed.

Yep i had 4 handguns and reloaded all the ammunition, all handed in in 97 following a Knee Jerk reaction after Dunblane, i wouldnt have minded so much if that made a statutary sentance of 25 years for carrying a firearm. grrrr rant over
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 20, 2020, 08:03 AM
:angry: As a kid the only people I knew who owned air rifles (slug guns / BB guns) took delight in killing or wounding things (not for food). It is a sickness of humanity.  Bows and arrows, and crossbows are being used against defenseless animals now.  Sickos who need a dose from the other end.

My family has always hunted and fished for sustenance. There is a huge difference.

Thankfully after our gun laws changed, even comic book air rifles were banned. The Prime Minister John Howard dealt with that after the Port Arthur massacre. My own father handed in his guns before the amnesty even started.  There is no need to own guns in a civilized society. 

Rural use by farmers is a different matter. Putting their own animals down after bush fires is case in point.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: mickyp on January 20, 2020, 09:21 AM
I was active in competitive target shooting for over twenty years, even travelling abroad for competitions, i would class it as being a civilised sport and hobby.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 20, 2020, 10:16 AM
French cretins. "Two French tourists who filmed themselves burning a quokka have been fined by a court in Perth, Australia". 

Fined ?  They should have been cremated.  Alive.

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Well in some parts of the country the water levels have risen overnight. We've gone from on fire to flooded in less than a week. Some areas are still burning but significant rainfall has been welcomed in many fire areas with some local creeks filling for the first time in 5 years. 

That at least is good news.

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And this? What is the cost of this? https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/heartbreaking-pictures-show-koala-mourning-dead-friend/news-story/a4358a49cd64d3bc8f66bea1e372da8d (https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/heartbreaking-pictures-show-koala-mourning-dead-friend/news-story/a4358a49cd64d3bc8f66bea1e372da8d)

Sorry, Livo, I can't bring myself to follow the link
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 21, 2020, 11:37 PM
I was active in competitive target shooting for over twenty years, even travelling abroad for competitions, i would class it as being a civilised sport and hobby.

I don't have a problem with registered sports shooting enthusiasts or even proper "collectors" mickyp. Proper background checks and good regulation is critical though.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Ghoulie on January 22, 2020, 04:50 PM
A good m8 of mine was an armourer with the MoD.  He was also a Bisley pistol champion.  Like most people in the sport / work, he had a fair collection of legit guns.  One day, him and his missus went off to work - each thinking they had locked up - but neither had checked their back door!  Sure enough they found they had been burgled via the unlocked back door when they got home & worst of all his gun cabinet had been forced open. Missing was a shotgun, 0.22 live rifle and a magnum 0.45. He reported this himself at the local nick in Widnes - where they detained him for 48 hours & gave him very intense interrogation over the 2 days - then releasing him.  The shotgun was found thrown into a field nearby - but no trace of the other 2 guns.  A fortnight later CID called on him and his missus saying there would be no charges brought against him for the gun loss - but said a strange thing to his missus as they left - asking her why it was she varied her route to work in Liverpool.  Turns out they had both been under surveillance for 10 days - cops concerned they may have been involved with say the IRA or similar - allowing the guns to be nicked !  Fair put the brownstuff up my m8 Steve.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: mickyp on January 22, 2020, 07:37 PM
A good m8 of mine was an armourer with the MoD.  He was also a Bisley pistol champion.  Like most people in the sport / work, he had a fair collection of legit guns.  One day, him and his missus went off to work - each thinking they had locked up - but neither had checked their back door!  Sure enough they found they had been burgled via the unlocked back door when they got home & worst of all his gun cabinet had been forced open. Missing was a shotgun, 0.22 live rifle and a magnum 0.45. He reported this himself at the local nick in Widnes - where they detained him for 48 hours & gave him very intense interrogation over the 2 days - then releasing him.  The shotgun was found thrown into a field nearby - but no trace of the other 2 guns.  A fortnight later CID called on him and his missus saying there would be no charges brought against him for the gun loss - but said a strange thing to his missus as they left - asking her why it was she varied her route to work in Liverpool.  Turns out they had both been under surveillance for 10 days - cops concerned they may have been involved with say the IRA or similar - allowing the guns to be nicked !  Fair put the brownstuff up my m8 Steve.

I can imagine Ghoulie, I had four guns which were kept in a locked heavy steel cabinet bolted to the floor, which was a conditional part of the certificate, that said when i went away on hols i used to put them up in the loft under the insulation and take the starters out of the strip lights, so it would be a torch job, i felt happier that way.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: livo on January 23, 2020, 07:01 AM
Here's the most recent example of a home grown idiot from today's news.  Sadly these are a regular occurrence.  These people should have some sort of medieval punishment meted out to them.  Fines and minimal jail time just doesn't seem to be doing the trick.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/young-man-charged-with-cruelty-after-kangaroo-viciously-beaten-to-death-in-viral-video/news-story/9382f7ca490f1634302463fd185c397f (https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/young-man-charged-with-cruelty-after-kangaroo-viciously-beaten-to-death-in-viral-video/news-story/9382f7ca490f1634302463fd185c397f)

Here is a good use of your guns. Target practice.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: Ghoulie on January 23, 2020, 03:51 PM
Beyond belief that such 'bravery' is inflicted on an already defenceless wounded animal.  Target practice indeed !  I hope an 11 ft kangaroo related to the deceased decides to jump him at a later date.
Title: Re: Water levels not rising in Australia
Post by: mickyp on January 23, 2020, 04:42 PM
What an absolute low life, and the Hyena bitch laughing, chuck him naked in a vat of Naga Puree, along with his Hyena friend, i hope Karma at some time pays all those involved a visit.