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Title: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Jethro on April 12, 2007, 09:09 PM
Here we go, my first attempt at BIR style curry (as experimented by myself) as opposed to authentic  traditional recipes which I usually do.

My choice was Chicken Ceylon as I have not seen it done here and it's one of my favourites.

This will serve two hungry people quite easily.

Ingredients:
1 bag (about a pint, or 1/2 a litre) of Darth's base sauce, you can use any of your choice, it's just that I have quite a bit left from my last experiment  :P
5 green cardomom pods just cracked open
5 bits of cassia bark
5 cloves
About a dozen whole black peppercorns.
2 Teaspoons of hot chilli powder (or even more if you want it hotter)
1 Tablespoon of Garam masala (if you want to be more authentic it should be a Ceylon masala but 99.9% of BIR's will just use the normal stuff, so I have)
1 bruised stem of fresh lemongrass
A splodge of oil..(technical term)
100 grms of Creamed coconut
1 Tablespoon of curry leaves.
1 Teaspoon of salt.
4 chicken breasts chopped into bite sized pieces.

Method:
Put the chopped chicken in a pan just cover with water and boil for about 5 mins or until just cooked though. Using a slotted spoon remove the chicken into a bowl and reserve the water.
In your main cooking vessel put the splodge of oil (ok about a tablespoonfull for you pedants) and gently fry the whole spices, cassia, cardomom, cloves and black pepper (not the curry leaves or lemongrass) for 2 minutes stirring all the time to avoid burning.
Add the base gravy and heat untill boiling, you should have a nice wet mix, time to add the bits that need more delicate treatment.
Add the chilli powder, salt, and curry leaves, lemongrass and garam masala, cook for as long as you think is right (taste it you will know when it's right)
Add the coconut cream and melt it into the mix.
At this point it will start to thicken quite fast, keep the heat down and add some reserved chicken stock as required to achieve your required consistency.
Cook for a couple of minutes untill coconut is well distributed in the sauce.
Add the pre-cooked chicken and heat through untill you are sure that everything is cooked through and melded together.
You have the choice now of leaving the whole spices in or picking them out, I like to leave them in myself, its shows a bit of individuallity to the dish and you just can't beat that explosion of flavour when you bite into a whole cardamom pod!.
Serve with a rice of your choice (coconut rice is traditional, and I will post a recipe for this separately) and/or naan and some fresh coriander for garnish.
Half a hardboiled egg can be added to each portion if wanted, Some restaurants do, some don't, or chopped hardboiled egg sprinkled over the top looks nice..entirely up to you :)

(http://www.beggarsfair.com/curry%20pics/chicken%20ceylon.JPG)

Enjoy!!

Jethro
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Yousef on April 13, 2007, 12:32 PM
Looks great and an interesting recipe as well.
My only comment is that adding Ground Spices to the base will not release their full spiciness, i would add them into the hot oil at the beginning then add the base.

Stew
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Curry King on April 13, 2007, 01:24 PM
Great pic looks fantastic.

Is a whole tablespoon of garam masala a bit over kill I would have thought you wouldn't be able to taste anything else?

cK
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: extrahotchillie on April 13, 2007, 08:45 PM
Looks very good, well done :P
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Rai on April 14, 2007, 02:08 AM
Nice pics.......please could you clarify which ground spices, besides chilli powder and garam masala, we are referring to here please?  Isnt garam masala supposed to be added towards the end of cooking rather than being fried at the beginning?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Jethro on April 14, 2007, 12:05 PM
Thanks for kind comments :)

Stew,
You could put the ground spices into the oil at the start, but there is no need, there is enough oil/water in the base gravy to extract the flavour and a lot safer than risking them getting burned.
Being in powder form exposes each tiny grain of spice to whatever medium you are using to extract the flavour therefore it don't take long as opposed to whole spices.

cK,
When you look at the overall weight involved, 1 level tablespoon (approx. 15 gms) compared to the base plus other ingredients and meat (at a guess about 2Lb) it's not that much.
Also I find that anything with coconut cream/milk in it tends to get the spice mix  masked a bit.

Rai,
Sorry I didn't make that look very clear, I have amended it.
Garam massala is only a mix of spices like any other, it can go in near the end if you want  a raw spicy flavour (some recipes call for this) or, in the context I am using it, as a general spice boost which needs to be melded into the dish.
I could have put small amounts of all the ingredients in the garam masala into the dish at that point and you would not have asked the question :). Just because its "garam masala" does not mean it cannot be used for purposes other than the most excepted ones.
Hope this explains it  8)
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Cory Ander on April 15, 2007, 04:57 AM
Hi Jethro,

Great photos and interesting recipe and comments Jethro!  8)

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You could put the ground spices into the oil at the start, but there is no need, there is enough oil/water in the base gravy to extract the flavour

I was particularly interested in this comment!  Presumably, the benefit of frying the spices in hot oil (i.e. before any water is present) is to achieve higher temperatures (i.e. above 200C rather than below 100C) to extract the essential oils from the spices?  It rather begs the question "what temperatures are required to extract the essential oils from spices?"....maybe this should be a topic for a new thread?

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......1 level tablespoon (approx. 15 gms).....it's not that much
I agree, considering that you have no other ground spices in your recipe (apart from chilli).  I guess it's likely to make the dish particularly aromatic?  Maybe more like a typical Balti in fact?

As a general comment, I would expect a typical BIR dish recipe to have fewer whole spices (probably none), more powdered spices or pastes (such as curry powder/paste, spice mix, coriander, cumin, tumeric, etc) and tomato paste, garlic and maybe ginger in it.  Lemongrass in an unusual inclusion for a BIR dish....more Thai, I'd say?

Thanks again for an interesting post Jethro!  8)

Regards,
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Curry King on April 15, 2007, 07:01 PM
Hi jethro,

Good point, I do make a spicy CTM myself very occasionaly but thats the only one I use creamed coconut for.  I'm also not a big user of garam masala as I find I can always taste it over everything else, saying that i've had a BIR vindaloo before that I swear was just chili and GM, it was awful  :-X
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: currytester on August 07, 2007, 08:14 PM
 ;D ;D ;D Today I made up the new base - double quantity as I luv quick and easy meals even though the initial prep and cooking takes some time and then as I had no onions or peppers left decided that I would give Chicken Ceylon a go. I made it exactly as in the recipe except for reducing the amount of chilli powder to half a teaspoon ( I reckon I must have the hottest of the hot chilli powders)added the rst of the ingredients then cooked for 5 minutes and added chicken and some stock the sauce tasted salty and sharp so i added 2 teaspoons sugar and three tablespoons of pineapple chunks - it then tasted better than my local restaurant's by a mile - keep the recipes coming they're great.
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Curry King on August 08, 2007, 10:49 AM
Welcome to the forum currytester  ;)
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Ganda on August 10, 2007, 01:58 AM
Looks great and an interesting recipe as well.
My only comment is that adding Ground Spices to the base will not release their full spiciness, i would add them into the hot oil at the beginning then add the base.

Stew

I agree with the fresh spices bit too - ground spices work but I feel they don't give the same bite to it. Nice post M8 and I look forward to your future recipies, as I am a great fan of mild to medium burners (yes - I do like a vindaloo, but need to be quite pissed for that one!)but the Sri Lanka type is fine for me. Oh, let's face it - we can eat them all!
Regards from Ganda.
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: makum101 on September 18, 2009, 09:18 PM
Question regarding the Creamed Coconut...

Do I prepare it first with water and then strain it or just chuck a 100gram lump into the pan and mix with the base?
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: JerryM on September 21, 2009, 08:29 AM
makum101,

not tried this recipe although it does intrigue me - will wait for u're report.

i do use creamed coconut a lot. the biggist problem with it is in getting it to melt quick enough. i cut it into very small chunks (5-10 mm cubes) and that works pretty well (i do have to add extra water sometimes). i'm thinking of trying a cheese grater.
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: 976bar on September 21, 2009, 09:05 AM
makum101,

not tried this recipe although it does intrigue me - will wait for u're report.

i do use creamed coconut a lot. the biggist problem with it is in getting it to melt quick enough. i cut it into very small chunks (5-10 mm cubes) and that works pretty well (i do have to add extra water sometimes). i'm thinking of trying a cheese grater.

Hi Jerry,

I put mine in a pirex dish and stand that in a pot of boiling water, it melts it ready to pour straight into the dish you are cooking :)
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: JerryM on September 22, 2009, 08:22 AM
976bar,

nice little prompt that. i'm not one for too much hassle when cooking (except when it's needed) - i will try the same as what u say using the dreaded microwave. sounds obvious but i'd never thought of it until u said (depends for me on how quick it re solidifies).
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Darth_Muppet on January 15, 2014, 09:21 AM
Do you have a link to Darth's base sauce or a link to a good base sauce to use?  I'm really new to all this.
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: George on January 15, 2014, 09:57 AM
Do you have a link to Darth's base sauce or a link to a good base sauce to use?  I'm really new to all this.

Welcome to the forum. Use search with the expression "100% clone". Darth's base sauce come up near the top of the list, together with other discussions, plus his Madras recipe and other interesting stuff. I hope this is more useful than if I simply posted the link.
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 15, 2014, 10:15 AM
Well ...
So, http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php/topic,674.msg6264.html#msg6264 (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php/topic,674.msg6264.html#msg6264)

** Phil.
Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: George on January 15, 2014, 12:03 PM
That string results in hits only if entered into the lower of the two search boxes (no, don't ask me why we have two -- I have no idea)[/li]
[li]Even though you may wish to teach a man to fish, that does not prevent you from giving him a fish if he is starving[/li][/list]

The expression I'd use is the one about leading a horse to water but not being able to force it to drink.

Are you seeing a different search function? A five year old could use what I see. It produces 46 results over 2 pages. Isn't that better than spoon feeding?

Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on January 15, 2014, 12:36 PM
The expression I'd use is the one about leading a horse to water but not being able to force it to drink.

Or "A search function that returns nothing is as much use as a bicycle is to a fish" :)

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Are you seeing a different search function? A five year old could use what I see. It produces 46 results over 2 pages.

I do indeed, George (see image below), so my 66-year-old eyes must be as least as good as your 5-year-old ones :)

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Isn't that better than spoon feeding?

I will let Jethro answer that, as he is in a far better position to judge than I.

** Phil.

<small language="Gibberish">
P.S.  Using the upper search box, a search for "100% clone" (your suggested search phrase) yields nothing; a search for 100% clone yields two pages of hits; using the lower search box, a search for "100% clone" yields four fits (this was the route that I used when I found that the upper box yielded zero hits), whilst a search for 100% clone yields the same two pages as the upper box.  To summarise :  quoted search strings cannot usefully be used in the upper box, whilst they are very effective at refining the results in the lower box.
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Title: Re: Chicken Ceylon
Post by: DalPuri on January 15, 2014, 01:34 PM

Or "A search function that returns nothing is as much use as a bicycle is to a fish" :)


Fish love an old bike thats been thrown in the canal.   :P