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Title: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Gezh on March 16, 2010, 09:13 PM
I've tried a couple of the Dansak recipes in this section, and they have not really been much like the type of Dansak I get served in London. There has been some discussion on regional variations, and clearly there must be, as I am sure I have never had a Dansak with pineapple chunks in!

So today I had a go at making it the way I know it, and I think it turned out incredibly well, I'm very pleased with it. This recipe takes various elements of other people's and combines them. Also, the cooking method is the bog standard cooking method repeated on this site countless times, so I won't detail it too much.

Serves one big belly or two small bellies

Preparation

Lentils. I make regular portions of C.A.'s Tarka Dahl, and as C.A. himself recommends in his Dansak recipe, I use a ladle of this. It's best if it's thick, not watered down too much into soup. Of course you could prepare some fresh lentils, but I can't vouch for the difference it will make to the flavour.

Sweet and Sour. All BIR menus describe Dansak as Hot, Sweet and Sour, and it's an important part of the taste. I created a simple mix which did the trick for me:
1 heaped teaspoon sugar
3 level teaspoons lemon jiuce
1 heaped teaspoon mango chutney.

Base sauce. My favourite base is the Bruce Edward one, but of course you can use your own preference. 2-3 ladles needed, depending on amount you want to make.

Spices. All down to personal taste... I used:
1 tsp Rajah Madras Curry powder
half tsp Garam Masala.
1 tsp Rajah Chilli powder
1/3 (third) tsp Amchoor (mango) powder.
Small pinch dried methi leaves.

Meat. I had leftover chicken from a roast, and this was great. Prawns go fantastically in a Dansak too. Either way, mine was precooked and unspiced.

Other ingredients
Some finely chopped onion and pepper, optional
Garlic/Ginger paste, 1 heaped tsp
Tomato puree, 1 tablespoon

Cooking. The usual cr0 style:

- Heat oil.
- Fry onion and pepper, if using.
- Add G/G paste once oil is up to temperature. Fry and stir 1 min.
- Add spices, then tomato puree, fry 2 mins, careful not to burn.
- Gradually stir in the base, as described on almost all recipes on this site!
- Add the Tarka Dahl, sweet/sour mix, and chicken.
- Stir together and simmer gently while you make the rice.

Done!




Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: 976bar on March 17, 2010, 02:34 PM
Being from London myself this seems more the Dhansak I know and love. I will try this tonight but with fresh lentils and let you know how it turns out.

Some pictures of yours would have been good :)
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Gezh on March 18, 2010, 11:20 PM
Being from London myself this seems more the Dhansak I know and love. I will try this tonight but with fresh lentils and let you know how it turns out.

Some pictures of yours would have been good :)

Yeah I know sorry, I got so carried away with the cooking and eating, I forgot about the camera  :)

The tarka dahl is pretty intense in itself, so I'm sure it really contributes to this dish. If using plain lentils, you may need to up some of the spice mix, but I'll have to try that another time.

Hope it turned out well!
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: mmmcurry on April 23, 2010, 07:37 PM
how did this go?  :P
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: CurryOnRegardless on April 24, 2010, 08:10 AM
Dahl is a favourite of mine and so therefore is dansak. Not many places seem to do a decent dahl but there is one local T/A that has it spot on. It has an open plan kitchen but the dahl is usually pre-made so until recently I'd no idea how they did it but a couple of months ago I had to wait while he made me a portion.
Simplicity is the key apparently. He just boiled some red split lentils, added a little turmeric and when done the tarka was just hing (the resin) melted into butter, not ghee, ordinary unsalted butter (the chef said Lurpack gives the best taste). Asked why not ghee he said it gets too hot and can burn spices too easily so it's best to use butter for a tarka, add the spice into the pan with the butter and slowly melt it the add to the dahl and that's it. Dead easy to do at home and tastes great, just don't overdo the hing a little goes a long way.

Cheers
CoR
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Secret Santa on April 24, 2010, 02:37 PM
Quote from: CurryOnRegardless link=topic=4402.msg42343#msg42343
  the tarka was just hing (the resin)...

CoR that's the first time I've heard anyone give a report of hing resin being used in a takeaway...interesting.
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: CurryOnRegardless on April 25, 2010, 11:26 AM
Quote from: CurryOnRegardless link=topic=4402.msg42343#msg42343
  the tarka was just hing (the resin)...

CoR that's the first time I've heard anyone give a report of hing resin being used in a takeaway...interesting.

Hi SS

Indeed and, get this, the chef actually crumbles the stuff between his fingers into the melting butter!

This is the guy that wont normally let on about anything, if you ask a question he just fobs you off with a condescending "years of experience" answer so I felt quite privileged to get the tip about butter instead of ghee for the tarka.

Regards
CoR 
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Secret Santa on April 25, 2010, 12:26 PM
Quote from: CurryOnRegardless link=topic=4402.msg42407#msg42407
the chef actually crumbles the stuff between his fingers into the melting butter!

Bloody hell! What's his name Popeye?  ;D

Seriously, I have to take a hammer to the stuff I buy. Either that or grate it.

Makes me wonder if it was hing resin, did he actually say that was what it was?
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: CurryOnRegardless on April 26, 2010, 09:39 AM
I know exactly what you mean SS but yes it was the resin, he showed me the stuff and when I said it was difficult to find he gave me a few lumps in a paper bag.

He didn't grind it to a powder in his fingers he just rubbed two lumps of it so a few bits dropped into the butter and that is all you need, still bloody impossible to do though so I smash some with a meat hammer and then just use a tiny pinch.

Back to the dansak, I think the pineapple has been consigned to the bin of history, can't remember the last time I had any but years ago it always had pineapple chunks in.

Regards
CoR
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: George on April 26, 2010, 09:57 AM
This recipe takes various elements of other people's and combines them. Also, the cooking method is the bog standard cooking method repeated on this site countless times, so I won't detail it too much.

Many thanks for what looks like a good recipe. I appreciate the way you've explained some of the rationale in your thinking - well set out.
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Gezh on April 26, 2010, 11:52 AM
Many thanks for what looks like a good recipe. I appreciate the way you've explained some of the rationale in your thinking - well set out.

George, I hope someone tries this out and gets back with the results. As I understand it, you live very close to me, so you should be expecting the same from a Dansak as myself.
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Tomdip on January 15, 2011, 07:37 PM
I love Dansak, and tried this version twice in the last couple of days. 

First attempt using a KD base and a basic masoor dall was pretty good.

Second attempt I added 1 tsp soy sauce and 1 tsp tomato ketchup and the result was even better.

Got a lovely smokey, dark, sweet flavour that I associate with a dansak.

Thanks for the recipe - got to tweek it to make 40 portions for a pub curry!
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Razor on January 15, 2011, 07:50 PM
Hi Tom,

Good news that you've found an improvement, especially using soy sauce, good work.

I think this account typifies the regional variances with our curries though.  Up here in Manchester I wouldn't describe our Dhansak's as 'smokey', more sweet n sour but not hot, as seems to be the case down south.

On the menus up here, Dhansak is described as such: Prepared with oriental spices, a mild yet tangy sauce with a delicious piquant richness, cooked with garlic, pinapples and lentils, flavoured with coriander

Ray :)
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Tomdip on January 17, 2011, 11:10 AM
yep, soy sauce is a nice ingredient.

Found a chilli paneer recipe years ago which was really minimal in its spicing - just chilli puree, ketchup and soy sauce.  Was amazed by how 'Indian' it tasted.

I find Dansaks to be just short of a Madras in heat in my travels.  Pineapple seems to be a disappearing ingredient over the years.
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Robbo1979 on April 10, 2011, 11:46 AM
Giving this a whirl today.  Not had any joy with the previous Dhansak recipe I tried on here... mainly because I detest pineapple and that recipe called for loads of pineapple juice.  This looks and sounds promising.

The amount of base is unclear (and tarka dahl for that matter) but I will just have an educated guess!!  ;D
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: parker21 on April 10, 2011, 02:02 PM
hi robbo try watching here first http://cbm-mick.blogspot.com/ (http://cbm-mick.blogspot.com/) . i know there is a dhansak recipe and well worth the watch too! and there is a recipe for tarka dhal too also as well ;)

regards
gary
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Robbo1979 on April 11, 2011, 07:42 AM
Made this yesterday... it was bloody ace!  Thanks!

I used the SnS base and doubled everything up for two people...  worked a treat.  Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on May 17, 2011, 08:25 PM
I made this recipe this evening and it is excellent!
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: spiceyokooko on February 07, 2013, 10:37 PM
Interesting use of amchoor in this recipe, I think I might try adding some of that to my next dhansak.

I don't think I've ever had a dhansak with pineapple chunks in it!

I make mine in almost the same way as CA's Madras recipe but add about 2 tablespoons of tamarind juice just after the tomato puree stage and about 2 heaped teaspoons of palm sugar after the lentils (dhal) goes in and about a tablespoon of lemon juice right at the end when it rests and the chopped coriander goes in.

It tastes hot, sweet and sour!
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: George on November 04, 2013, 09:26 PM
hi robbo try watching here first http://cbm-mick.blogspot.com/ (http://cbm-mick.blogspot.com/) . i know there is a dhansak recipe and well worth the watch too! and there is a recipe for tarka dhal too also as well ;)

I'm sorry to say I disagree. I tried the CBM dhansak from Fatima restaurant this evening and it reminded me of some of the worst dhansaks I've had from BIRs. It lacked any of the interesting flavours which, for me, make a really good dhansak.

I will probably order dhansak at our London meeting in 10 days time. I hope the restaurant which Phil recommends can make a dhansak which tastes a lot better than the one from Fatima restaurant, as written down by CBM.
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: london on March 18, 2014, 07:42 PM
I've just made this with the one pot base and fresh made lentils and must say it almost there, not quite the dhansak that I get in London but very tasty. Well done.
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: 976bar on March 18, 2014, 09:38 PM
I'll get round to posting my recipe one day...

But in the meantime think of adding.... smoked paprika, a hell of a lot more garlic when making the dhal, tomato ketchup (yes tomato ketchup in the dhal), lemon juice to taste, more chilli powder..... chicken stock in the dhal....

Let your taste buds run riot and don't be afraid to experiment just because someone might say, "it's not BIR"....... ;)
Title: Re: London style Chicken Dansak
Post by: london on March 22, 2014, 04:21 PM
I'll try the tom ketchup and smoked paprika, i always use ketchup when cooking Caribbean curry.