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Title: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: raygraham on September 21, 2005, 07:08 AM
Hello Folk's,

It's amazing when you look just how many versions for a base sauce there are!

I have just found this one in a book by Mridula Baljekar ( 1996 ) for a base sauce used in restaurant's.
Her acknowledgements in the book mention a few restaurants whose recipes appear in the "100 Best Balti Curries" book.

She calls this a Kadhai Gravy specifically for the restaurant style..

Makes 1.2 litres (2 Pints)

Ingredients:-

450 g ( 1 lb )Onions, rough chopped
40 g ( 1 1/2 ozs ) Garlic Cloves, peeled
40 g? ( 1 1/2 ozs ) Fresh Ginger, chopped
2 tsp Coriander Seeds
1 tsp Ground Turmeric
1 1/2 tsp Salt
425 g ( 15 ozs ) Can Tomatoes with the juice
1 TBSP Paprika
2 TBSPS Methi Leaves
1 TBSP Sunflower or Corn Oil
600 mls (1 pint ) Water

Method.

Put all ingredients in a large saucepan with the water
Bring to Boil
Reduce heat, cover pan and simmer 35-40 mins
Remove from heat and cool
Blend in a processor

There is also a Makhani Gravy which some recipes use.

Ingredients:-

4 x 2" Pieces Cassia Bark
4 Black cardamom Pods , split open
8 Cloves
2 tsp Garlic Paste
2 tsp Ginger Paste
700 gms ( 1/1/2 lbs ) Can Tomatoes including juice
225 gms ( 8ozs ) Tom Puree
2 tsp Salt
2 tsp Sugar
1 tsp Chillie Powder
2-4 Whole Fresh Chillies
8 ozs Butter
7 fl ozs Double Cream
2 tsp Dried Methi Leaves
600 mls ( 1 pint ) Water

Method
Put all ingredients except Butter, Cream and Methi in a saucepan with the Water
Bring to boil
Cover and simmer for 30 mins
Remove Whole Spices and Chillies
Cool and Puree in a blender
Return sauce to the saucepan on medium heat
Add Butter, Cream and Methi and simmer for 10 mins.

She also goes on to give recipes for 12 Restaurant Style dishes:-

Lamb with Spinach and Chick Peas; Lamb with Cabbage, Potatoes and Peppers; Lamb with Lentils, Marrow and Peppers; Lamb with Potato and Spinach; Minced Lamb with Potatoes and Peas; Chicken with Sweetcorn and Mushrooms; Chicken with Lentils and Peppers; Chicken with Minced Lamb and Mushrooms; Prawns with Spinach and Indian Cheese; Prawns with Aubergine and Eggs; Prawns with Mushrooms, Minced Lamb and Peas; Chicken with Potatoes and Chick Peas.

I will get some of these on the site as soon as I can if anyone is interested.

Regards

Ray
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: pete on September 21, 2005, 08:14 AM
The first base uses very little oil
The second uses no oil, no onion but a lot of chilli
Both have methi (fenugreek leaves)
This is like the two base approach we  were talking about
I would be interested to see more
I feel sure now, that there is no set recipe for a base
I remember reading how the whole indian restaurant industry was spawned by one restaurant.
Chefs left and opened their own places
The recipes were passed on chef to chef
It was thought there was no difference in recipes
This is obviously not true
But they all seem to be able to make similar tasting meals, don't they?
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: traveller on September 21, 2005, 09:08 AM
I have her book "Real Fast Indian Food" (2002) and the recipes for the kadhai and butter and madras sauces are quite different from the ones you posted!  Too many variations ???

Payal
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: raygraham on September 21, 2005, 02:10 PM
I have her book "Real Fast Indian Food" (2002) and the recipes for the kadhai and butter and madras sauces are quite different from the ones you posted!? Too many variations ???
Payal
Yes Payal, It is a bit confusing isn't it!
Most of the books I seem to have are mainly on traditional Indian Cooking.
It was only through re-reading some of the books I have discovered a few references to "Restaurant Style" recipes.
In other books there are also one or two recipes that seem to border both style's of cooking such as in the "Daag" sauce I posted earlier which is "supposedly" used widely in Asian homes yet resembles the Curry Base we make on this site. The question could be asked "do more Asian families than we think use recipes close to the restaurant style in their home cooking as it is simple and convienient" ?
In this book Mridula has a whole section on the restaurant style which I never realised before.
Her recipes are for mainly the more modern (if you can call it that) "Balti" dishes and not the simpler restaurant curries ie Madras, Vindaloo, CTM we talk at length about.
I have not seen her recipe for the "Madras" sauce! Is there any chance of copying it and posting for us all to see??

Regards

Ray
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: raygraham on September 21, 2005, 02:17 PM
The first base uses very little oil
The second uses no oil, no onion but a lot of chilli
Both have methi (fenugreek leaves)
This is like the two base approach we? were talking about
I would be interested to see more
Hi Pete,
Would you scan the list of recipes I included in my original link and let me know which ones you would be interested to see first. I know you are a Vegetable Vindaloo fan so maybe you would like the Veg ones first?
There are 12 all together so typing ALL of them would be a bit long winded but if the demand is there I can start getting the job done.

Regards

Ray
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: raygraham on September 21, 2005, 02:30 PM
Ooooops!!, sorry Pete, have looked again and she doesn't give an "all veg" option!

Ray
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: traveller on September 21, 2005, 03:51 PM
Yes, I can do that very soon - post the madras sauce that is but it has fresh curry leaves - hence the "madras" label I assume.  I am actually making it right now and will use it as a base in another recipe from the book.  So I will let you all know what happens...i just hope the chicken is not leathery again!  The only time it wasnt was when i sliced it into thin strips, not chunks.  I cant wait to finish this frozen chicken - I will never buy the frozen chicken breasts again - at least not from Costco.

Payal
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: Curry King on September 21, 2005, 04:31 PM
I cant wait to finish this frozen chicken - I will never buy the frozen chicken breasts again - at least not from Costco.

Thats what I always say when I buy them, im always tempted by an offer and ALWAYS regret buying them!  I don't think it matters where you get them from I can never get the same results with frozen chicken breasts.
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: DARTHPHALL on September 21, 2005, 05:06 PM
I mainly use frozen breasts (Lidl) & have absolutely no problem with getting them as tender as can be, try my method..........  http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=80.15    .
 

                                 DARTHPHALL.... 8)....
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: Curry King on September 21, 2005, 07:07 PM
Its not so much the tenderness its the shape and texture.  The frozen chicken breasts ive bought are flat and soggy, I like nice big chunks in my currys.
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: DARTHPHALL on September 21, 2005, 07:35 PM
I know what you mean, the many friends i cook for have varied tastes & ask for the Chicken to be cut in either large or small chunks,my preference is small chunks, the size/dimension of a ?2 coin. :)
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: traveller on September 22, 2005, 08:02 AM
Hmm..the chicken was not leathery yesterday!  I sliced it in thin strips - chinese style - and it was very tender!  This is the first time I actually used a 2 step cooking method in that I made the madras base sauce first and then made chili chicken in coconut.  It turned out great!!  I am not sure if it qualifies as a "curry" but it was really very good!  I will post the recipe today or tomorrow for sure.  I have some chicken I will cook today according to a method recommended by someone here when I mentioned the chicken was very tough.  But cooking the chicken in the base sauce until it almost al dried up was great - so much flavor in the chicken!!

Payal
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: traveller on September 22, 2005, 08:05 AM
I found the technique by DARTHPHALL - i may give that a try today - I am planning on making chicken pakodas with it and it uses cooked chicken to coat in the besan.

Payal
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: woodpecker21 on September 22, 2005, 02:41 PM
Thats what I always say when I buy them, im always tempted by an offer and ALWAYS regret buying them!  I don't think it matters where you get them from I can never get the same results with frozen chicken breasts.

try getting Tescos' healthy option chicken breasts, very little to cut off & throw away quite good vfm as well @ 1kg for ?4.99. i too like chunks of chicken especially when making chicken tikka.... :)

has anyone tried bruce edwards recipe for chicken tikka. i did but due to lack of suppliers of mustard oil i had to use sunflower oil instead. i can honestly say it was perfect but for the aroma no tandoor either so 240 degrees under the grill for 15 mins turning once. it was the best i ever had. only wish i had some ghee to brush it with and had "sizzled" it, again i recommend that anyone of you to try the sizzle  :D
if you need any tips then read KD's book has how to sizzle. to all newcomers i believe it's in the download section on this forum.

regards gary
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: DARTHPHALL on September 22, 2005, 05:06 PM
Hi Paast10.
Please do try my method to cook Chicken & let me know if yours turned out as good as mine, i have cooked it several times this way & all the most tender Ive ever cooked, ( remember don't boil the Chicken , just let it reach boil then follow recipe etc..etc.. ).  ;D


DARTHPHALL.... 8)....
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: traveller on September 22, 2005, 05:50 PM
I will try your method next week - I had a few spoons of the madras sauce left over from yesterday so i decided to finish it up and cook the little bit of chicken I had left.  I hope that not boiling the chicken continuously solves all the problems!!!  I will let you know when I try it.
Thanks.

Payal
Title: Re: Mridula Balljekar's Kadhai Restaurant Base Sauce
Post by: traveller on September 24, 2005, 05:57 PM
I am sorry I havent posted the madras curry sauce recipe yet - got very busy but will do it either sunday or monday for sure.  It really was very tasty - not really restaurant style but tasty.

Payal