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Title: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: vinotinto on February 06, 2012, 09:38 PM
Pictures of my Beef Balti - really was not only a great tasting curry but also the winner of our local curry competition:

Firstly the chopped tomato and spice mix that goes in the base

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/bd27c550f8521c3258923b353e6fabcf.JPG) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#bd27c550f8521c3258923b353e6fabcf.JPG)


Base sauce

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/02c23ef52f6ae6222dc0b34973b97399.JPG) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#02c23ef52f6ae6222dc0b34973b97399.JPG)

Pre cooked beef:

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/82b033d71e0f1d6b1af1cfe9335a8b02.JPG) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#82b033d71e0f1d6b1af1cfe9335a8b02.JPG)


Base sauce blended (following addition of the tomato / spice mix)

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/95cc68bc8e0d9a76dbabc17648b33976.JPG) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#95cc68bc8e0d9a76dbabc17648b33976.JPG)

Balti beef, from a couple of weeks ago - first attempt

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/13c1f7d256f52bac85764b7538437c32.JPG) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#13c1f7d256f52bac85764b7538437c32.JPG)

And finally... the winning beef balti.  For the meat in this one I used braising steak and therefore I simmered for around 2hrs, adding some peppers and onions near the end to bulk it out a bit.  Was cooked the night before to let the flavours improve and did the trick

(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/c4c85f3dd9c6d37aea1a377e45429bde.JPG) (http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/#c4c85f3dd9c6d37aea1a377e45429bde.JPG)


As most of you say to me the curry is very close to some of the best I have had - not quite getting there but certainly as good as if not better than the local takeaways.

And finallly what can I say but thanks to the forum for the win :)
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: Unclefrank on February 06, 2012, 09:55 PM
Hi vinotinto well done on the win, what recipe did you use for the Winning Dish.
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: vinotinto on February 06, 2012, 10:05 PM
Hi UF thanks for that.
I used the Kushi basic balti, with the Kushi pre cooked meat recipe (using beef instead of lamb because the competition was for a beef curry) .  For the beef I was only able to get stewing beef so I simmered for about 2hrs to ensure it was tender enough ( I think its a 20min simmer in the Kushi recipe), adding an onion and a couple of slice red peppers near the end.  I trippled the final curry recipe to make sure there was enough to go around, doing that I know I may have lost a touch of the flavour that you might expect to add through what may be meant to be a quicker frying process but to be honest, despite doubts initially I was pleased with the outcome
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: Unclefrank on February 06, 2012, 10:13 PM
Ok cheers, great pictures by the way.
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: vinotinto on February 06, 2012, 10:19 PM
Thanks  ;D - my first contribution since I joined maybe more than 3 yrs ago
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: Secret Santa on February 07, 2012, 12:39 AM
No disrespect to the chef or the curry but since when has beef curry ever featured large on any BIR menu?

I'm clearly out of touch!
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: vinotinto on February 07, 2012, 08:45 AM
I agree with what you say, however I chose this because the competition this time was for a beef curry  of any persuasion, last time it was thai curry.  I wanted to get do an Indian, and as lamb was not an option I chose this. 
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: Les on February 07, 2012, 09:30 AM
No disrespect to the chef or the curry but since when has beef curry ever featured large on any BIR menu?

I'm clearly out of touch!

In Scotland It's on nearly every menu, T/A and Restaurant,
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: PaulP on February 07, 2012, 09:35 AM
Well done vinotinto, that curry looks tasty.

Paul  :)
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: curryhell on February 07, 2012, 09:54 AM
No disrespect to the chef or the curry but since when has beef curry ever featured large on any BIR menu?

I'm clearly out of touch!

In Scotland It's on nearly every menu, T/A and Restaurant,
And it features quite regularly down south too, along with duck, venison, osterich  and fish.  Things have moved on a little since the very early days ;)
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: curryhell on February 07, 2012, 09:56 AM
And finallly what can I say but thanks to the forum for the win :)

Vinotinto, very well done mate.  That does look lovely and rich :P,  Just the one portion for me with a naan please  ;D
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: bamble1976 on February 07, 2012, 11:51 AM
cracking job, well done!

Barry
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: vinotinto on February 07, 2012, 01:00 PM
Thanks for the positive comments.  I always assumed that when you ordered a meat curry (which Ive seen a few times) it was made with beef (or meat that wasnt lamb anyway!!)
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: curryhell on February 07, 2012, 01:15 PM
Thanks for the positive comments.  I always assumed that when you ordered a meat curry (which Ive seen a few times) it was made with beef (or meat that wasnt lamb anyway!!)
Invariably in the earlier days it always used to be mutton :o
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on February 07, 2012, 01:31 PM
And it features quite regularly down south too, along with duck, venison, osterich  and fish.  Things have moved on a little since the very early days ;)
I would respectfully suggest the opposite : beef curry /was/ most definitely on the menu in the early 1970's (New Delhi restaurant, Finchley Road, amongst others) but is far less commonly seen on menus these days.  Duck, yes, but by no means common.  Have never seen ostrich offered.

** Phil.
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: 976bar on February 07, 2012, 05:29 PM
I wish I had a curry club near me!!! :)
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: ELW on February 07, 2012, 08:42 PM
Pictures of my Beef Balti - really was not only a great tasting curry but also the winner of our local curry competition:
And finallly what can I say but thanks to the forum for the win :)

Well done for the win but shouldn't you be thanking the chef and co-author behind the Kushi Balti book?

How does the forum have much to do with it, on this occasion? Or did you use a recipe that someone unfairly posted here, in serious breach of copyright law and any reasonable standard of common decency, IMHO?

I feel quite strongly about this - if indeed it was the Kushi Balti recipe you used because, also IMHO, that book is close to being the best BIR-focussed publication since sliced bread. Shouldn't they be getting the credit? I'm having more and more success with the recipes in there.

I'd never have heard of Kushi or their book if it wasn't for this forum
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: PaulP on February 07, 2012, 08:45 PM
Yes I also bought the book based on information on this forum. Some fool at Amazon sent me 5 copies for the price of one so I wasn't complaining and had a few gifts for family and friends.

Paul


Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: vinotinto on February 07, 2012, 10:08 PM
I see your point George but without this forum I doubt I'd have stumbled upon the book.  I've got plenty of cook books at home that have disappointed, its nice for a change to try before you buy, which I shall be.  Also if you take Abdul for example, his cooperation with the forum has been of mutual benefit for all.
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: Razor on February 07, 2012, 10:43 PM
How does the forum have much to do with it, on this occasion? Or did you use a recipe that someone unfairly posted here, in serious breach of copyright law and any reasonable standard of common decency, IMHO?

I feel quite strongly about this - if indeed it was the Kushi Balti recipe you used because, also IMHO, that book is close to being the best BIR-focussed publication since sliced bread. Shouldn't they be getting the credit? I'm having more and more success with the recipes in there.

George, I guess that I'm guilty of this with this book.  I did this back in my early posting days, not really giving consideration to copyright law, however, I do think that it has to be said that a fair few members have actually bought the book on the back of reading one or two of the post's from cr0, so in that respect Mr Haydor has probably generated a nice 'little earner' on the back of cr0?

The fact that he hasn't taken any legal action, suggests that he is fine with the 'free' advertising that this fantastic forum has provided?

This however, does not negate the fact that he did protect his work by copyright, and I should have respected that copyright at the time.  Maybe the active moderators of that time or even Admin should have protected it's 'naive' posters and should have clearly advised on copyright law?

Ray :-\
Title: Re: Kushi Beef Balti - won the local curry club
Post by: George on February 08, 2012, 11:16 AM
How does the forum have much to do with it, on this occasion? Or did you use a recipe that someone unfairly posted here, in serious breach of copyright law and any reasonable standard of common decency, IMHO?

I feel quite strongly about this - if indeed it was the Kushi Balti recipe you used because, also IMHO, that book is close to being the best BIR-focussed publication since sliced bread. Shouldn't they be getting the credit? I'm having more and more success with the recipes in there.

George, I guess that I'm guilty of this with this book.  I did this back in my early posting days, not really giving consideration to copyright law, however, I do think that it has to be said that a fair few members have actually bought the book on the back of reading one or two of the post's from cr0, so in that respect Mr Haydor has probably generated a nice 'little earner' on the back of cr0?

The fact that he hasn't taken any legal action, suggests that he is fine with the 'free' advertising that this fantastic forum has provided?

This however, does not negate the fact that he did protect his work by copyright, and I should have respected that copyright at the time.  Maybe the active moderators of that time or even Admin should have protected it's 'naive' posters and should have clearly advised on copyright law?

Ray - I think your response indicates what a thoroughly decent bloke you are. Posting quite a few recipes out of one book is about the only thing you've ever done, which I would question. You might be right that it's brought more sales, than lost opportunities for the authors. i don't know but it's still illegal, of course.

Anyway, a key point is that the Kushi Balti book is so good, that it ought to be a best-seller: highly recommended.