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Title: Korma sauce
Post by: DalPuri on February 29, 2012, 03:50 PM
I made this last night just experimenting.
Ive been trying to nail a few recipes particularly the creamy ones.
I cant remember the last time i bought a korma but it must be 30 years?  ???

Anyway, this is adapted from Ghanna's recipe.
If there's any Korma lovers out there, i'd appreciate it if you would give me your opinion.
I dont fancy the idea of chucking chef spoons of sugar into curries so this isn't as sweet as most but sweet enough i think.

2 tbsp spiced oil
1/4 grated onion
pinch methi
1 portion gravy (300ml)
50g creamed coconut block
2 level tbsp unsalted ground almonds
2 level tbsp unsalted ground cashews
1 small tin carnation milk
1 tsp sugar
1 tsp butter ghee
pinch maldon salt
half mug of water

fry onion gently in seasoned oil until golden.
add methi and stir for 30 seconds.
add gravy and turn up the heat.
add coconut and stir until disolved.
add the rest of the ingredients and simmer with a lid on
until the oil seperates.
Stirring occasionally to stop it catching.

Thanks, Frank.  :)

** The lid is because the sweet curries glug away like when making jam and you dont want to get that on your skin  ;)

**Edit  The ground nuts could be taken down to 1 rounded tbsp each.  ;)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: 976bar on February 29, 2012, 04:13 PM
Hi Frank,

This is the recipe I use, and my daughter who is a Korma fanatic, will not buy a Korma from a restaurant anymore because she can't find one as good as this.

And before a certain person jumps on the bandwagon to try and gain brownie points on the forum, no it's not my recipe, but I cannot remember where I got it from, I think it might be CA's?? Anyway's give it a go and I hope you enjoy it :)

Serves 1-2
Ingredients:
300g skinless chicken breast (chopped into approximately 1 inch cubes)
60 ml veg oil
1tsp fresh garlic (pureed)
1 tsp turmeric powder
200ml curry base
6 tbsp coconut milk powder
2 tbsp sugar (or to taste)
0.5 tsp salt (or to taste)
100ml fresh single cream
milk (as required)
2tbsp almond meal (or cashew meal)
fresh chopped coriander - optional

Method:
Stir the coconut milk powder (and almond meal or cashew meal, if using), into the cream, to make a lump-free paste.
Heat the curry base to a gentle simmer
Heat the oil in a suitable pan (I use a cast iron wok) until almost smoking
Add the chicken and fry, for a couple of minutes, on high heat, with continuous stirring, until sealed (i.e. just white on the outside).
Add the garlic and turmeric and fry, for a minute or so, with continuous stirring (do not burn!)
Add a ladle of curry base and stir
Continue to add the curry base, a little at a time, stirring occasionally as the water evaporates and the sauce thickens.
Add the coconut/meal/cream paste and sugar and stir
Continue to simmer, on medium heat, stirring occasionally, until the oil begins to separate (5 to 10 minutes),  maintain the sauce to the desired consistency by adding a little milk (or cream)
Add fresh coriander to taste (if using)
Serve
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: DalPuri on February 29, 2012, 05:13 PM
Thanks for that Bob.
Although your intentions are good, i wasn't really after another recipe.
I only wanted an opinion on my adapted recipe.
It does look like CA's recipe and i have tried it before.
I just find CA's creamy curries too rich for me.
e.g. 6 tbsp coconut milk powder is the equivalent to 1 litre of coconut milk.  :o
Plus im trying to avoid adding loads of sugar into curries as that is what ALL the curry houses do around here.  >:(
So sweet theyre almost inedible.!

It was the grated onion i was particularly happy with after thinking there was something missing from most recipes.
So please give this a try. If its rubbish then so be it. I only want opinions, good or bad  :)

Thanks, Frank.  ;)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: 976bar on February 29, 2012, 06:08 PM
Hi Frank,

Sorry, maybe I misread your post.

I have to say that since I saved this recipe I have cut the coconut powder back to 3 tbsp and although I still heave in 2 tbsp sugar, I wonder how much sugar content a tin of carnation milk contains? And I only ask as I have never used the stuff so I really do not know...

With regards to the onion do you not puree the dish after cooking the sauce? In the south and it maybe different anywhere else, I have never encountered a Korma with bits of onion in, they have always been smooth silky sauces..

Kind Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: DalPuri on February 29, 2012, 06:48 PM
No Problem Bob, first posted recipe n all that, dont mind me  :D

I dont think carnation (evaporated) milk has any sugar in it. Condensed is the sweet one.
As far as the onions go, it came to me in a thought taste.
i made the ghanna recipe to spec and started thinkin.....
It might be from the days when i used to add the onion salad on the top? who knows. but i thought it worked.

My base sauce is pureed, but do you mean you puree the curry after cooking?

Cheers, Frank. ;)


Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: jb on February 29, 2012, 07:44 PM
Definitely not a korma fan myself but as I've had a couple of requests to make it I'll check these recipes out,thanks guys.I wonder whatever happened to Ghanna? Or CA come to think of it,they have just disappeared from here.
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: 976bar on February 29, 2012, 08:28 PM
Hi Frank,

What is the calorific content of the carnation you use? I'm just wondering whether it is a suitable replacement for the cream and sugar I use in a Korma?? Looking at it from a more healthier point of view :)

With regards to blending the sauce, I make a Kashmiri Chicken Masala which my son loves, in which I use half a chopped onion as part of the sauce.

Once the sauce has been cooked through and reduced to a thickish consistency, I then throw the lot into a blender and whisk until I get a smooth sauce. This also helps thicken the sauce too,

I then return it to the pot and add the pre-cooked Chicken and warm through thoroughly before serving. If the sauce has become too thick which I kinda like because the flavours are more intense, then I just add a little milk or extra cream to thin it out a bit.

I was just wondering whether you use this kind of practice with your Korma or whether you serve it with the pieces of onion still intact? :)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: 976bar on February 29, 2012, 08:32 PM
Oh!! and I forgot to add, I am sure CA is still around, and probably one of the best contributor's to this forum in my opinion :)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: DalPuri on March 01, 2012, 12:20 AM
Hi Bob, I've never whizzed a sauce after i've cooked it. Thats a new one on me  :)
I've only tried a few creamy recipes lately just for nostalgia.
And the onion thing, i dunno. It was not only to add depth but feel as well. The tiny bits of onion that you  like to mince with your teeth  ;D

The sauce was a bit thick still though and could've done with more water but overall a good flavour.
It went straight in the freezer anyway. I was just being creative  :P

Its just so easy to play around when everything is made in bulk, frozen and ready to go.

Frank.  ;)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: Wickerman on March 01, 2012, 02:18 AM
@ 976bar.
Hi.
I'm after a good Korma and was also thinking about using CA's Chicken Korma recipe.
Can you tell me if you also use his base gravy with your Korma recipe?
I know it's not always a good idea to mix recipes with different bases,but i still have quite a bit of abdulmohed's gravy left in my freezer,(minus the 6 chillis)and was wondering if that may work,or would i be better making  a batch of  CA's base?


 @DalPuri.
Hi.
Your sauce also sounds very good.
Decisions,decisions..

Thanks.
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: 976bar on March 01, 2012, 07:47 AM
Hi Wickerman,

I have made Korma with a number of bases, including CA's, SNS and Taz's all with great results :)

I think the key to remember here is that Korma is normally a mild dish, so as long as your base sauce isn't ramped up with chillies, then you should be fine using Abdulmoheds.

Let us know how you get on and please post some pictures of your dishes :)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: BoneHoney on August 11, 2013, 11:10 PM
The only thing I do different to this recipe is boil my onions for about 45 minutes, allow them to drain then blender them into a smooth paste. They're the first thing to go into the pan with hot ghee in it. I leave the paste to cook about 5 minutes on high, it kinda looks like an onion pancake at this stage, so that the water can boil off, and then I gently stir it until they're a nice light brown.
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: Sagwally on January 05, 2014, 05:49 AM
Hi
First time posting after my first curry from this forum..
Fantastic!
I used Chewytikka's base recipe from his great 3 hour video, then this Korma .. Thank you DalPuri.
The only changes were through necessity, as I only had coconut milk not coconut block. And I added a dribble of cream that was left over from Christmas.
I was amazing as good if not better than any Korma I have had in a restaurant
I am inspired...

Sorry the pic is too big.... Guess ill leave it as I have no idea how to resize it....
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: 976bar on January 05, 2014, 07:33 AM
@ 976bar.
Hi.
I'm after a good Korma and was also thinking about using CA's Chicken Korma recipe.
Can you tell me if you also use his base gravy with your Korma recipe?
I know it's not always a good idea to mix recipes with different bases,but i still have quite a bit of abdulmohed's gravy left in my freezer,(minus the 6 chillis)and was wondering if that may work,or would i be better making  a batch of  CA's base?


 @DalPuri.
Hi.
Your sauce also sounds very good.
Decisions,decisions..

Thanks.

Hi Wickerman,

Sorry, I have only just seen your post and apologise for not having replied sooner.

I have used a number of base sauces over the years, but now seem to stick with Taz's, which amongst other dishes, I still make a korma with. Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: Kashmiri Bob on January 05, 2014, 10:22 AM
Here you go.


(http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/imagehost/pics/3a955e0ff77826a5734cbe7d4128a23c.jpg)


Looks very nice. Well done!


Rob  :)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: DalPuri on January 05, 2014, 12:49 PM
Blimey! There's a first. Somebodys tried one of my recipes.   :o

Glad you liked my "grown-ups" Korma, Sagwally. 

Cheers, Frank.  :)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: Sagwally on January 05, 2014, 06:49 PM
Thanks for the photo adjust Rob..... Ill figure it out before I post next time... All the fun of scouring the site.

Frank I say again it was a beaut' thanks, I was attracted to it because of the grated onion, I love the flavours of the Korma but never really like the baby food texture I have personally experienced in BiR' s over the years.

Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: leodis1970 on November 11, 2014, 04:29 PM
Coconut powder is definitely the future and an ingredient that I hadn't tried until recently. Very, very cheap and no waste unlike canned cocunut milk. Oddly, local asian shop don't sell it, but got some in the afro-carribean shop next door to them. The benefits of living in a very multicultural area :)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: scalexkid on August 21, 2016, 09:51 PM
Milbona Sweetened Condensed milk from Lidl is I have found the route to a BIR style Korma, as the boiled spices in a base sauce (even if fried off first) can be a little 'raw'. I use Mick Crawfords base sauce, but with no tomato at all.

Well hay it works for me, I have no idea of the nutritional values on the side of the cans I used last week in a 12 portion saucepanful i made for my Petanque after-match buffet. No complaints, but then I supplied it FOC, with thigh meat instead of breast, Tandoor style - or as close as I could get with a 250degree max oven.
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: JennyLou90 on October 23, 2016, 05:14 PM
976bar,

Is there a specific recipe i could follow for a Kashmiri Chicken Masala please?

Thanks

Jenny

Hi Frank,

What is the calorific content of the carnation you use? I'm just wondering whether it is a suitable replacement for the cream and sugar I use in a Korma?? Looking at it from a more healthier point of view :)

With regards to blending the sauce, I make a Kashmiri Chicken Masala which my son loves, in which I use half a chopped onion as part of the sauce.

Once the sauce has been cooked through and reduced to a thickish consistency, I then throw the lot into a blender and whisk until I get a smooth sauce. This also helps thicken the sauce too,

I then return it to the pot and add the pre-cooked Chicken and warm through thoroughly before serving. If the sauce has become too thick which I kinda like because the flavours are more intense, then I just add a little milk or extra cream to thin it out a bit.

I was just wondering whether you use this kind of practice with your Korma or whether you serve it with the pieces of onion still intact? :)
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: livo on March 15, 2018, 08:39 AM
976bar,

Is there a specific recipe i could follow for a Kashmiri Chicken Masala please?

Thanks

Jenny

.....
With regards to blending the sauce, I make a Kashmiri Chicken Masala which my son loves, in which I use half a chopped onion as part of the sauce.
....

I too would like to know more of the Kashmiri Chicken Masala.
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 15, 2018, 12:37 PM
I too would like to know more of the Kashmiri Chicken Masala.

To hear is to obey.  http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=3585.msg32021
** Phil.
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: livo on March 15, 2018, 07:47 PM
Thanks Phil. I wonder if Jenny ever found the thread. I've read the complete thread. There is a whole new direction for me to explore.

Banana goes with a lot of things. Interestingly, a very early curry night dinner for me 30 years ago was Sri Lankan and there was a banana and coconut sambal side dish, which we still make from time to time, usually for special occasions only now. Don't know why we don't have it more as it's so simple to do and delicious with curry.

I know your a fried egg man Phil. Bacon, fried egg (runny yolk) and caramelised banana with a splash of barbecue sauce. The best breakfast sandwich possible. Sometimes I'll add a slice of soft cheddar as well.

I Pm'd JennyLou90 in case she never found the recipe.
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 15, 2018, 07:52 PM
I know your a fried egg man Phil. Bacon, fried egg (runny yolk) and caramelised banana with a splash of barbecue sauce. The best breakfast sandwich possible. Sometimes I'll add a slice of soft cheddar as well.
Funnily enough I had a fried egg, bacon & sausage sandwich for lunch, from a delicatessen in St Austell.  Very nice sandwich, but it was only when I opened it in the car that I discovered they had not cut it -- eating an uncut and runny sandwich while driving is not easy !  But bananas, not for me I'm afraid; hate the taste, and can't even drink a smoothie if it has a trace of banana in it (my home-made mango lassies are, of course, 100% banana-free :) )
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: livo on March 15, 2018, 08:01 PM
So I'll take that to mean you didn't try the Kashmiri Chicken Masala, yet you'll eat snails and kidneys ;D Sausage is still acceptable on the Sanger.
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: Garp on March 15, 2018, 08:36 PM
eating an uncut and runny sandwich while driving is not easy ! 

Were you on your mobile as well, Phillip?
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 15, 2018, 08:43 PM
Were you on your mobile as well, Philip?
Nokia 8310e in a Nokia CARK-132 car-kit; fully legal, and an absolute God-send in emergencies ...
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on March 15, 2018, 08:47 PM
So I'll take that to mean you didn't try the Kashmiri Chicken Masala, yet you'll eat snails and kidneys ;D Sausage is still acceptable on the Sanger.
I don't remember  ever saying that I eat snails ...  Kidneys, of course, along with almost all other internal organs, but I don't like cream in curries so the Kashmiri Chicken Masala was not for me.  I use the paste a great deal, just not Bob's recipe ...
Title: Re: Korma sauce
Post by: livo on March 15, 2018, 10:34 PM
Sorry, Just my assumption after you made reference to removing shells from escargot in the chickpea thread. 

I've been doing some interesting research into Bassar / Basaar / Kashmiri Masala this morning.  It isn't something I've ever seen out here and I don't seem to be able to find it readily close by.  Very mysterious product.  I think I'd rather use it to the Pataks Kashmiri Paste if possible.  I have found some possibly useful information for the DIYers, such as myself, though, which I'll post in a more relevant thread.

Edit: Not available. Probably due to Mustard Oil content.