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Title: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on June 25, 2012, 08:21 AM
Following my grandson's 1st Birthday Party the other week, someone was so impressed with the Indian dishes I had cooked that he has asked me to cater for his wife's 40th Birthday Party this Saturday :)

I've now got to go and buy and prepare the following

Poppadoms & Various Chutneys
30 Onion Bhajis & Yogurt Mint Sauce
15 starter portions of sizzler Chicken Tikka with Salad and Yogurt Mint Sauce

4 Chicken Kormas
4 Chicken Tikka Masala's
4 Lamb Madra's
4 Garlic Chili Chicken's
4 Lamb Bhuna's

15 portions of Aloo Gobi

10 portions of Pilao Rice
5 portions of Plain Rice

15 Naan Breads

Once again another great big thank you to this forum, as without you guys I would never have been able to do this :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Les on June 25, 2012, 09:04 AM
Way to go Chef, ;D
Got your work cut out there Bob, Good luck mate, Hope it all goes well.

Les
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on June 25, 2012, 09:17 AM
Thanks Les :)

I'll take some pics for the forum :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: solarsplace on June 25, 2012, 09:27 AM
Hi Bob

Good luck for the day! - I am sure you will do a great job, knowing the quality of your chicken tikka and garlic chilli chicken from the CR0 BBQ.

Must admit though, that sure is a lot of food to prepare....

Cheers

Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on June 25, 2012, 09:44 AM
Hi Russ,

Many thanks and changing the subject slightly, is there another BBQ this year? I remember seeing something about it earlier in the year but not heard anything since....
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Peripatetic Phil on June 25, 2012, 09:44 AM
Only catering for 15 people, Bob ?  You'll need to scale up for the Olympics :)
** Phil (who cannot conceive of catering for more than four at the absolute max).
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on June 25, 2012, 11:04 AM
It'll be good practice Phil :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: daddyL on June 25, 2012, 11:20 AM
Hi Bob,

Good Luck and hope all goes well  :)
Have you started yet  ;)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: jb on June 25, 2012, 11:38 AM
I'm impressed mate!!  I'm sure you're be fine.I was asked myself recently to do the same sort of thing for someone,I'll be interested to see how you get on and any advice/tips you get out of it.Out of interest do you have a specific naan bread recipe you use,it's still one thing I haven't been able to master even though I have my tandoori oven.cheers jb
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on June 25, 2012, 11:45 AM
I have started. I went shopping this morning for some more fresh spices and have a batch of Taz's base on the go.

I plan to go and get a leg of Halal Mutton tomorrow along with 5kg chicken breast.

Wednesday I plan to marinate the chicken tikka which I like to marinade for 48 hours, and stick the leg of mutton in the fridge.

Thursday I am in London all day, so Friday I will make all the sauces, BBQ the chicken tikka and bake the pre-made chicken, slow cook the mutton for around 3 hours and make the rice.

Then Saturday, just make the onion bhajis all the dips/chutneys, add the meat to the sauces ready for heating up.

I will buy the naan breads as firstly I have not got around to making them yet and don't want to spoil the party and secondly I don't think I would have time to make them anyways. Iceland are doing a pack of 3 for a ridiculously cheap price at the moment :)

Let you know how it all turns out :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Razor on June 25, 2012, 12:21 PM
Good luck Bob,

This could well be the 1st of many catering jobs my friend!

All the very best mate.

Ray :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on June 25, 2012, 12:31 PM
Good luck Bob,

This could well be the 1st of many catering jobs my friend!

All the very best mate.

Ray :)

Thanks Ray,

I may be calling on you to come and help out if it gets busy!!  ;D
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: loveitspicy on June 25, 2012, 12:50 PM
just caught this thread - brilliant
hope you enjoy doing it

best, Rich
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Aussie Mick on June 25, 2012, 01:54 PM
Good luck mate, I'm sure you'll nail it, and you will get an enormous sense of self satisfaction (or smugness) when people congratulate you on the quality of the scran!! ;D
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: h4ppy-chris on June 25, 2012, 01:59 PM
i hope all goes well for you Bob  ;)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Micky Tikka on June 25, 2012, 02:04 PM
living the dream  8)
good luck not that you need it
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Naga on June 25, 2012, 04:04 PM
Good luck! Your diners will be in for a real treat if your recipes on here are anything to go by.

BTW, your stifado recipe was terrific - certainly better by a country mile than the one I've been using this past 20 years, and that's saying something! Nice one! :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: curryhell on June 25, 2012, 04:57 PM
You're already 3/4's of the way there mate.  Now just the cooking bit to do.  Simples  ;D ;D ;)  Enjoy the compliments when they start to flow and make sure you don't let on about the secret ingredients ::)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: colin grigson on June 25, 2012, 05:32 PM
I'm pleased for you Bob ... I love your recipes and reckon your diners are in for a treat ... enjoy it   :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on June 25, 2012, 05:34 PM
You're already 3/4's of the way there mate.  Now just the cooking bit to do.  Simples  ;D ;D ;)  Enjoy the compliments when they start to flow and make sure you don't let on about the secret ingredients ::)

What's that, burning the onions and spilling the chili powder?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Stephen Lindsay on June 25, 2012, 06:15 PM
all the best with that - and using Taz base as well - nice one!
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Graeme on June 25, 2012, 07:13 PM
I know how much hard work this can be, i hope all goes well :-)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: curryhell on June 25, 2012, 09:51 PM
What's that, burning the onions and spilling the chili powder?  ;D ;D

Shhhh, don't let the secret out of the bag Bob ;)  All the best of luck, it'll be a marathon for sure.  I think the max number i've cooked for was 18 and by the end of the day i was *****d to say the least.  And i certainly didn't want to eat any of it that night.  I was quite happy with the brown bottles.  But it was rather pleasing hearing the remarks as the diners ate ::) ::)  Make sure you take pics as often as you can for us to savour the moment ;)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: George on June 25, 2012, 11:58 PM
Following my grandson's 1st Birthday Party the other week, someone was so impressed with the Indian dishes I had cooked that he has asked me to cater for his wife's 40th Birthday Party this Saturday :)

Well done. Your cooking must be really good for you to be asked to supply that party. You could have the start of a viable catering business, there. Does that interest you?
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on June 30, 2012, 08:35 PM
Well, just completed my first booking and I am Knackered!!! lol

4 portions Garlic Chili Chicken
4 portions Lamb Madras
4 portions Chicken Tikka Masala
4 portions Chicken Korma
15 portions Aloo Gobi
10 Portions Pilao Rice
5 Portions Plain Rice
30 Onion Bhajis
15 mini Sheek Kebabs
15 Naan Breads (shop bought)
24 poppadoms (shop bought)
Coriander Chutney
Yogurt mint sauce
Mango Chutney (shop bought)
Lime Pickle (shop bought
Mr Naga Chutney (shop bought)
Indian Salad (Tomato, Red Onion, Cucumber, Coriander and toasted Cumin Seeds)
30 green finger chilies (sliced in half and fried for a sprinkling on top of the curries if wanted)

A lot of hard work but enjoyable and everyone loved it which makes it all worth while :)

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Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Naga on June 30, 2012, 08:52 PM
Congratulations! You got through a power of work there and your photos look good enough to lick clean! :)

Glad it went well and everyone enjoyed it. After this success, the next one won't look so daunting.
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on June 30, 2012, 08:56 PM
Congratulations! You got through a power of work there and your photos look good enough to lick clean! :)

Glad it went well and everyone enjoyed it. After this success, the next one won't look so daunting.

I hope not!! lol I feel as though I have just run the London Marathon!!  ;D

Thanks Naga :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Graeme on June 30, 2012, 08:59 PM
Well done :-)
Looks very nice.

Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: curryhell on June 30, 2012, 10:10 PM
Fantastic accomplishment Bob. Get the Olympics out the way then you can get stuck into hiring yourself out ;)  - anglo-asian caterer I meant ::)  I expect mates rates of course ;D
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: natterjak on June 30, 2012, 10:43 PM
Well done Bob :)

You served up Mr Naga as a condiment? Bet that blew the heads off a few of the uninitiated! ;)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: George on June 30, 2012, 11:09 PM
 A further thought is the hope that you arranged all of the following ahead of carrying out the work:

- registered your kitchen with the local authority
- registered the new business venture with HMRC
- took out an insurance policy against what could be sky-high claims if anyone at the party went down with food poisoning.
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on July 01, 2012, 07:06 AM
Well done Bob :)

You served up Mr Naga as a condiment? Bet that blew the heads off a few of the uninitiated! ;)

Warnings were given in advance  ;)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on July 01, 2012, 07:08 AM
A further thought is the hope that you arranged all of the following ahead of carrying out the work:

- registered your kitchen with the local authority
- registered the new business venture with HMRC
- took out an insurance policy against what could be sky-high claims if anyone at the party went down with food poisoning.

George, I think we need to put this in perspective really.....

Firstly, a neighbour friend of mine asked if I would cook Indian food for his wife's 40th birthday party to which I agreed. This was a non profit making entity, whereby they covered the cost of the food and I got the cooking experience I need.

Questions were asked in advance about anyone with allergies or vegetarians etc etc to which the reply was no.

Secondly, yes the business is registered as a limited company with Companies House, not HMRC. Yes I do have my Level 2 award in food safety for catering, otherwise I would not be cooking for the Olympics.

Should I start operating commercially, then yes my kitchen will be registered with the relevant local authorities and a suitable Insurance policy will be purchased to cover indemnity.

Are you suggesting that anyone who holds a dinner party now needs an insurance policy in case they poison someone? If so then I think having people round for dinner in future would become extinct....  ;)

Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on July 01, 2012, 08:13 AM
Fantastic accomplishment Bob. Get the Olympics out the way then you can get stuck into hiring yourself out ;)  - anglo-asian caterer I meant ::)  I expect mates rates of course ;D

Yes at 53 I think I would make more money out of selling Onion Bhajis on street corners than my body!!  ;)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: George on July 01, 2012, 08:44 AM
Are you suggesting that anyone who holds a dinner party now needs an insurance policy in case they poison someone? If so then I think having people round for dinner in future would become extinct....  ;)

No; of course not. Cooking in your house for friends is different to being used as a catering contractor by someone else. The authorities would point to the scale of the cooking and the fact that the food was being carried out to be served up elsewhere.

Would I have done the same? Probably, but I'm in no doubt it would break local authority rules in terms of the environmental health rules.

If the money (reimbursement) went through your limited company, it points even more to the fact that it was a commercial contract. The transactions would also be included in the company accounts and would be notified to HMRC in that way, so that's OK.

I suggest you took a risk not having insurance - even for a one off contract. It would be like not having home insurance for a few months. There's a very low chance you'd have a burglary or the house would burn down during that time, but it's the risk you take.
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: natterjak on July 01, 2012, 08:52 AM
Hi Bob, did you cook the 4 x qty of each main dish in a single large pan or did you cook a normal quantity four times? If the former, how did you approach the thorny issue of how to scale spices and other ingredients? Just quadruple everything or some other ratio?

I can't imagine you'll be cooking individual portions when catering for an Olympic team, so guess you've managed to address the issue of how to cook at scale.
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on July 01, 2012, 09:04 AM
Hi Bob, did you cook the 4 x qty of each main dish in a single large pan or did you cook a normal quantity four times? If the former, how did you approach the thorny issue of how to scale spices and other ingredients? Just quadruple everything or some other ratio?

I can't imagine you'll be cooking individual portions when catering for an Olympic team, so guess you've managed to address the issue of how to cook at scale.

Hi Chris,

Normally when I make an individual dish I tend to make 2 portions anyway, so for 4 portions I just doubled up on the quantities.

However, if I were to make larger portions which I have done in the past, then I tend to cut back the spices to two thirds, then taste the dish and if it requires more, then I adjust the spice content and ensure it's cooked through prior to adding any meat or veggies :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on July 01, 2012, 09:11 AM
Are you suggesting that anyone who holds a dinner party now needs an insurance policy in case they poison someone? If so then I think having people round for dinner in future would become extinct....  ;)

No; of course not. Cooking in your house for friends is different to being used as a catering contractor by someone else. The authorities would point to the scale of the cooking and the fact that the food was being carried out to be served up elsewhere.

Would I have done the same? Probably, but I'm in no doubt it would break local authority rules in terms of the environmental health rules.

If the money (reimbursement) went through your limited company, it points even more to the fact that it was a commercial contract. The transactions would also be included in the company accounts and would be notified to HMRC in that way, so that's OK.

I suggest you took a risk not having insurance - even for a one off contract. It would be like not having home insurance for a few months. There's a very low chance you'd have a burglary or the house would burn down during that time, but it's the risk you take.

This was purely a cash in hand to pay for what I spent on materials so no need to go through the company as there was no profit made, so no taxes or VAT are due. In fact I probably lost out when I consider the gas and electric used, but as I said earlier this was purely for experience.

Cooking for anyone whether it be friends, family or customers is always a risk even when you have a certificate for food safety but it's a risk you have to take. I have had quotes for liability insurance which for my scale if I were to go commercial would be around
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: George on July 01, 2012, 09:23 AM
This was purely a cash in hand to pay for what I spent on materials so no need to go through the company as there was no profit made, so no taxes or VAT are due. In fact I probably lost out when I consider the gas and electric used, but as I said earlier this was purely for experience.

I won't continue harping on about this because the admin side of things is so boring compared to your great achievement in cooking all that food. Well done!  BUT you are wrong. Even if no tax or VAT is due, a deal like that still has to be reported to HMRC. If it didn't go through your company, they'd deem you as working as a 'sole trader' - even more hassle, unfortunately.
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Micky Tikka on July 01, 2012, 09:27 AM
Nice spread Bob
Im sure you made everyone more than happy

One question when I do a curry for a few people and all the prep afterwards it takes me a good few day to look at a curry again  :'(
 How many days does it take you  ;D
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on July 01, 2012, 09:30 AM
Nice spread Bob
Im sure you made everyone more than happy

One question when I do a curry for a few people and all the prep afterwards it takes me a good few day to look at a curry again  :'(
 How many days does it take you  ;D

Usually Breakfast the following morning  ;D
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on July 01, 2012, 09:32 AM
This was purely a cash in hand to pay for what I spent on materials so no need to go through the company as there was no profit made, so no taxes or VAT are due. In fact I probably lost out when I consider the gas and electric used, but as I said earlier this was purely for experience.

I won't continue harping on about this because the admin side of things is so boring compared to your great achievement in cooking all that food. Well done!  BUT you are wrong. Even if no tax or VAT is due, a deal like that still has to be reported to HMRC. If it didn't go through your company, they'd deem you as working as a 'sole trader' - even more hassle, unfortunately.

Your right George, this is becoming boring  ;)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Micky Tikka on July 01, 2012, 09:47 AM
A true pro
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: emin-j on July 01, 2012, 10:09 AM
Well done 976bar an excellent job,you've earned a well deserved rest  ;) can just imagine what your kitchen looked like    :'(
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on July 01, 2012, 10:21 AM
Well done 976bar an excellent job,you've earned a well deserved rest  ;) can just imagine what your kitchen looked like    :'(

Thanks Emin,

The kitchen is actually quite clean, but I do have every window in the house open though...  ;D
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: h4ppy-chris on July 01, 2012, 10:41 AM
hats off to you Bob well done (http://r22.imgfast.net/users/2213/39/05/09/smiles/424776184.gif)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on July 01, 2012, 12:01 PM
hats off to you Bob well done (http://r22.imgfast.net/users/2213/39/05/09/smiles/424776184.gif)

Thanks Chris :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Ramirez on July 01, 2012, 12:57 PM
Massive well done on this! Really good effort. ;D

The most I've ever cooked for is 4, so I imagine the enormous effort that would be required for 15. Most be really satisfying seeing the enjoyment on everyone's faces!
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: 976bar on July 01, 2012, 01:10 PM
Massive well done on this! Really good effort. ;D

The most I've ever cooked for is 4, so I imagine the enormous effort that would be required for 15. Most be really satisfying seeing the enjoyment on everyone's faces!

Thanks Ramirez, it was a lot of hard work but well worth it.

I started the marinading on Wednesday last week :)
Title: Re: First Dinner Party Booking - 15 People
Post by: Aussie Mick on July 01, 2012, 01:18 PM
Well done that man.

Food looks superb Bob. Have a rest .... you've earned it. 8)