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Lets Talk Curry / splitting the beghar
« on: November 22, 2022, 08:29 PM »
are there advantages of causing the curry to split during dish frying (by over cooking the baghar stage oil,g/g,mix,puree etc before adding the bulk of the base)

i always aim never to split as the curries taste good without splitting and have never gelled with the "extra" floating oil that it causes.

if the oil skimming works then splitting could work for me if there is an advantage.

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Lets Talk Curry / removing oil from cooked curry at dish fry
« on: November 14, 2022, 02:51 PM »
am going to give this a further go.

in past have used chef spoon (per happy-chris madras video).

its a lot of a drag and as a result avoided by keeping dish fry oil and base oil just enough to keep the BIR product but with almost no oil on the surface of the fried curry.

am looking for an more efficient way - current though being what i can only describe as a metal perforated plate to hold against the pan on an angle (a bit like draining pasta with a pan lid that is perforated). the closest seems to be called skimmer frying spoon.

if anyone already uses please give details. there seems to be too many types to choose from.

the concern being my pan rim is 10 inch and feel a spoon may be too small to stop the curry flowing out around the sides.


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Cooking Methods / Oven Meat Slow Cooking
« on: November 05, 2022, 10:40 AM »
possibly not for everyone. i generally use it for meat going into wraps with a salsa.

after much messing and bad results this details where i got to. there was background reading done at amazingribs.com and seriouseats.com

left to decide is if foil makes a useful enough contribution. in a standard oven stage3 at 70C would work.

# starting point
experiments on low temperature cooking  in 1969 showed that benjamin Thompson's overnight meat cooking temp never exceeded 70C

#conclusions:
1) very low temp not worth effort+ prone bacteria (40,50,55C)
2) Finishing on BBQ max 10 min turning ea side otherwise too much blackened bits
3) if not using foil must be +lid to prevent surface drying out

#standard method (topside, lamb shoulder, brisket)

stage 1 - 60C 12 hrs (foil+lid)
stage 2 - 65C 12 hrs (foil)
stage 3 - 68C 5-9 hrs (foil)(use meat thermometer at center, stop when 68C)
stage 4 - allow rest in liquid 30min
stage 5 - optional 10min/side BBQ

BACKGROUND INFO

# Aim: Juiciness & tenderness

# meat protein states:
denatured myosin=yummy 50-60C
denatured actin=yucky 66-73C

optimal texture 60-67C : myosin and collagen will have denatured

# process of meat cooking:

40C, proteins start denature.
50C, collagen begins contract.
55C, collagen starts softening.
68C, collagen denatured gelatin
70-75C, meat turns grey
100C, water in meat evaporates
120C maillard boiled aroma
150C maillard roast aroma
190C (160-204C) Caramelization (breakdown of sugars)

rare (<60C)
medium (57-63C)
medium well (63-68C)
well done (68C)

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Lets Talk Curry / bbq lamb skewers -for tikka or dry rub
« on: November 03, 2022, 06:10 PM »
am in need of sanity check on how to approach. i don't see quick fix but a lot of trial and error using small portions.

rekindled interest comes from eating in turkey and realizing bbq lamb can be very very good much better than anything bought or cooked in the uk.

the nearest example i can give is the equivalent to pink best quality beef rump steak - juicy with texture but not tuff. have cooked rack of lamb (lamb loin) in the oven to pink but even this is still tuff.

torture to date:
1) from 976bar original lamb tikka post tried kiwi fruit. it turned the lamb into mush and the bbq finished meat awful. it was that bad i have no written record - i think i tenderized in the kiwi for 40 mins before washing off, then marinade and bbq
2) asked a trusted butcher who recommended neck fillet - this was worse than 1st go - neck fillet has fat and sinu which is impractical to remove. the fat taste is overwhelming. to correct then pan fried to crisp/remove the fat but side effect meat overcooked


plan:
1) use leg of lamb - lean and easy to cube (lamb rump too small to be commercial)
2) first option use kiwi fruit to tenderize but say 10 mins max then wash off
3) second option oven slow cook at 60C to keep it pink and not loose water
4) the turkish lamb was finished on bbq but looked already part cooked (was on skewers)
 
unknowms
1) is acid too brutal for lamb (many appear to have had success) - will it kill the pinkness

 
aim to use 976bar instructions with confidence
"I just put the sizzler plate on a low heat for about 10 minutes, then turned the heat up added a drizzle of oil then put the onion slices and sliced red pepper on. The immediate infusion of the onion and pepper cooking is addictive. I left these to cook for about 3 minutes, turning them otherwise they will burn, then I added the lamb tikka and tossed the lot around the sizzler for about five minutes until the onions and peppers were cooked and the lamb was warmed through but not too much so as to dry it out."

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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / they say never to go back
« on: November 02, 2022, 09:24 AM »
not sure how long its been.

had other more pressing areas of interest:

1) learn flavor balance (976bar) on my non curry mains to get to a 10 on them
2) pizza get temp up from 300C to 400C targeting 2ish min bake and adopt poolish dough
3) meat oven slow cooking inspired by turkish lamb kuzu (cooked in tandoor)
4) crock pot curry suited work life and family, local takeaway suits my need for real stuff

these interest have come to an end and i need to bottom a few remaining curry niggles:

1) bbq lamb skewers ultimately to use my iff tikka on it along with herb mixes like turkisk and greek
2) on bir curry side revisit smoke and oil

best wishes you all

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Lets Talk Curry / Bhaji oil - ideas on shortcut for home making
« on: April 28, 2015, 07:04 PM »
Haldi and curry2go have raised bhaji oil in past.

Ive had 2 goes using old oil from mainly chicken and chip frying.

On 1st go used too much and 2 nd too little.

Trouble is I will never get close to BIR stuff as I just don't make bhaji very often

Question is - could there be shortcut to making at home.

Would be interested in anyone who makes at home or has had taste of the real stuff.

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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / the truth sometimes hurts
« on: February 21, 2015, 06:21 PM »
i'm not sorry if i've caused alarm in geoff's post which got diverted to "empty vessels".

i have simply reported the truth - bigboaby1 if you read his posts was subjected to abuse. ive just pointed this out (and more importantly the loss to the site as a result that bigboaby1 has been forced into not replying in his posts)

the sooner we all start protecting members the better or better still stop aiming at 1 upmanship and just concentrate on the food.

has the world gone mad.

surely the bullies can't win in a fair and democratic society.

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All Other Hints N Tips / Prep Timeline - a day in the life of home BIR
« on: February 07, 2015, 10:55 AM »
thought a picture view of a day in the life of the home BIR fan might help new starters and hopefully get other members to add insight into what they do differently.

if you've not realized already the prep for BIR is quite something. once done the cooking (of many dishes) is a breeze.

took a few pics on my last journey. main emphasis for me is on doing the same each time to ensure consistency. if i change anything then it's only 1 change at a time.

day1 - marinating


day2 - make base, bunjarra

day3 - cooking day

check stock level frozen items (fresh is best but frozen stuff is pretty close)


make the fresh stuff


measure out individual recipe ingredients




ready to cook

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Lets Talk Curry / Traditional - key spices
« on: February 03, 2015, 10:11 PM »
Article in local paper on a traditional Indian in Warrington caught my eye.

The food is really very good. I went chippy on way home and still paying off the credit card.

The list don't really do a lot for me but may be of help to others.

Til - sesame
Rai - brown mustard seed
Jeera - cumin
Cloves
Cinnamon 
Mace
Saffron
Hing
Imli - tamarind
Akroot - walnut
Chilli pwdr 
Coriander pwdr
Garam masala home made

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Lets Talk Curry / Akhini - anyone using it (spice tasting trials)
« on: February 02, 2015, 08:42 PM »
Is anyone using akhini.

I use parker21 mouchak recipe and make 2 litres as the start point when making base.

I put 5g of cinnamon in a copy cat of harilor curry and was taken aback by how strong it tasted. I use just same amount in akhini for base and don't see the same strenght.

In short2 questions:
1) will the strength increase if the whole spice spends longer at a simmer. I currently gently simmer the akhini for 20 mins. The harilor curry whole spice probably cooked for 3 hrs. I guess im thinking tea bags

2) does anyone use a different mix to mouchak akhini

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