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Lets Talk Curry / Curry Photos?
« on: July 09, 2006, 05:57 AM »
Hi All  :),

I believe that photos of members' curries on this site serve several useful purposes:

  • to illustrate what should be achieved as an outcome to a recipe
  • to add at least visual confirmation of written words and assertions
  • to provide visual inspiration to others

I, for one, would welcome many more curry photos, not only of members' efforts, but of original BIR curries as a visual reminder and yardstick of what we are aiming for!

Some members may feel that photos do not "forward the cause one bit" (i.e. presumably, in replicating "the unique flavour and smell" of BIR curries at home).

Unfortunately, at this time, "appearance" is only one of the three attributes (the others being "smell" and "taste") that we can portray across the internet and across the miles!

I would be very interested in other members' views and comments on the value of curry photos  :)

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Hi Guys and Gals  :)

Would anybody have a really good recipe for an authentic BIR special fried rice (you know, quite oily and very, very tasty!)?

If so, I would be eternally grateful! 

Thanking you (in anticipation )!  :D

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Hello ladies and gents,

Would any of you fine folk have a really good recipe for an authentic BIR mushroom bhaji (you know, rich, savoury and dare I say it....."smokey".....and so very, very tasty!)?  

If so, I would be eternally grateful!  8)

Thanking you (in anticipation :P)! :)

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Curry Web Links / The Curry House
« on: June 10, 2006, 08:05 AM »
Hi All,

I'm sure this link must exist here somewhere, I just couldn't find it so I thought I'd post it anyway - http://www.curryhouse.co.uk/

Lots of interesting stuff and links here - but you have to pay a registration fee to access recipes from "The Curry House Cookery Book".......

......anybody got a copy of this?  If so, what's it like?

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Curry Web Links / Chilli Site for Chilli Heads
« on: June 03, 2006, 01:00 AM »
This site is all about chillis and how to grow them......including the Dorset Naga (aka Naga Morich)...apparently the hottest chilli of them all  :P..................http://www.thechileman.org/

Here's another with a list of a few more sites worth looking at.........http://www.chilefarm.co.uk/links.html

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Hi all,

I?ve only recently discovered this fantastic site!  I?ve read many of the threads and I see that there are some great ideas, and some fanatical curry cooks, here!  I wish I?d found the site sooner! 

For better or for worse, I thought I?d throw in my two-pennies worth regarding that elusive ?Indian restaurant taste? and the use of ?secret ingredients?.  This is a summary of my views formed over about twenty years of trying (and miserably failing, no doubt!) to replicate those brilliant British Indian Restaurant curries. 

Firstly, I think it is reasonable to presume that Indian restaurants are businesses, need to make a profit, and therefore need to make curries as quickly and as cheaply as possible. To achieve this, I believe that they primarily use:

a)   Pre-ground spices (and spice combinations) - not freshly roasted and ground whole spices (however appealing this may sound)
b)   Pre-made spice pastes
c)   Pre-pureed garlic and ginger pastes
d)   Cheap oils (eg; vegetable oil), not expensive oil (eg; olive oil), with limited use of ghee (eg; on naan breads)

For simplicity, I believe that they will also primarily use a limited number of vegetables and spices.  I suggest primary ingredients include:

a)   Onions, garlic and ginger (fresh or pre-pureed pastes)
b)   Curry powders and curry pastes
c)   Tomato paste and puree
d)   Tumeric, cumin, coriander, paprika, chilli and garlic powders
e)   Garam masala

Other key ingredients probably/may include:

a)   Carrots and red and green peppers
b)   Fresh coriander (stalks and leaves) and chillis
c)   Dry fenugreek leaves (imparts a ?savoury? smell and taste)
d)   Yoghurt and cream
e)   Creamed coconut and ground nuts
f)   Lemon juice
g)   Sugar and salt

Minor ingredients probably include cardamom seeds, cumin seeds, whole cloves, cassia bark, star anise, etc.

I believe that the elusive ?Restaurant Taste? is primarily obtained by the combination of ingredients, techniques and (large) scale cooking methods used, rather than from the use of any fancy ?secret? ingredients.  Some of the more important factors (which are sometimes difficult to replicate at home), which I believe are important, are:

a)   Using a large, pre-prepared, pot of mildly spiced curry base sauce/gravy ? cooked slowly (over several hours) 
b)   Slowly cooking the onions (over several hours) to impart sweetness to the base sauce/gravy (and to avoid bitterness)
c)   Browning the garlic to impart smokiness to the food (unless it is burnt, in which case it will impart bitterness!)
d)   Using well-used (blackened) karahis to impart a smokiness to the food  (similar to Chinese cooking eg; special fried rice)
e)   Using very high cooking temperatures to sear ? but not burn - the spices and food.  Also imparts a smokiness to the food, again similar to Chinese cooking)
f)   Similarly, the use of tandoori ovens to achieve the same effect with tikkas, tandooris and naan breads.
g)   Using copious amounts of cooking oil
h)   Decanting and re-using cooking oils in other dishes
i)   Using a mildly spiced stock (?yakhni?)
j)   Avoiding burning spices (which will cause bitterness)

Well, I?m sure you guys probably already know this stuff?.or vehemently disagree with most of it!  Not to worry though, I hope it?s helpful to someone and I?d be interested in your views either way!

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