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I have used Tilda and Badshah with fairly good results. I recently bought 5kg of 'Trophy' basmati rice for ?5 and I've noticed that even though it is very easy to cook and the grains turn out longer and fluffier than usual, it has very little of that nutty basmati aroma and makes pilau rice taste bland.

Are there any particular brands out there that are considered 'the absolute best' which are better than Tilda? Maybe a brand only available from Asian shops or by import?



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I have followed many recipes and have a few methods of making pilau rice which turns out OK but it is just not the same as takeaways or BIR's. I am determined to learn how to get it EXACTLY the same, I can't see why it's not possible.

I typically use 500g of washed basmatti (tilda or badshah) per batch, with 5 cardomoms, 4 cloves, few bits of cinnamon stick or cassia bark, 2 or 3 fresh bay leaves and a tsp of cumin seeds & a pinch of salt gently fried in butter then simmered for 15 mins or so. I have experimented with various amounts of water and spices and I have used regular pots and rice cookers and even tried the oven method but the rice always comes out the same.

It is never as 'fluffy' as the restaurants and the smell is different. When I get restaurant rice it has an amazing yet subtle sweet fragrant aroma and is always light, fluffy and separate. My rice seems 'heavier' or 'chewier' than the BIR's and the aroma is not 'sweet and fragrant' but it smells bitter and 'starchy', its hard to explain. Interestingly the rice I make seems to improve after cooling in the fridge overnight and being reheated, but I know restaurants will scoop their rice straight out of the pot, especially as rice is meant to be eaten within about 12 hours from cooking for hygiene reasons.

I have found a youtube video demonstration from a restaurant owner making pilau rice which I found interesting, I would imagine if I tried making it as simply as this I would end up with a big pot of mushy starch!

Here's the link....  pilau rice dad 0001

Could getting that professional result with pilau rice be down to making it in a large quantity in a big pot?

Does anyone know where I'm coming from with this? Any tips would be greatly appreciated, Cheers!

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Curry Base Chat / Got some real takeaway base today
« on: August 24, 2009, 09:35 PM »
I asked at my local takeaway today if I could have a small pot of their base gravy. It is different from all the bases I have made, and I have tried several of the main recipes. It is very thin, oily and runny but not watery. It has a very mild smell, and tastes very mildly spiced. It seems to be mainly like a naturally sweet onion soup. It doesn't taste bland like all my bases have done.

I also visited an Asian cash and carry today called 'Sira' in Southall, London (a goldmine area for food and ingredients). I managed to get a big bag of about 20 dutch onions for ?1.59 and 7 massive bulbs of garlic for 89p.

I am going to try and replicate a smaller batch of this base tomorrow, which really does seem just like blended onions in oil and water.
Here is a photo of the base....

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Lets Talk Curry / Im doing something wrong. Pics included...
« on: August 23, 2009, 06:24 PM »
I am trying to replicate a BIR Dhansak or Madras (or any main dish really!), but I am doing something terribly wrong as the end result tastes disgusting!

I have never seen or tasted real BIR base gravy so I dont know if mine is completely wrong, although I have carefully followed a recipe called "melting base 3" from a different curry website which is pretty much the same as all the other bases I have made (I have tried several). The base itself tastes bland and watery, and I have diluted it to a thin consistency.

When I fry sugar, it eventually burns and sticks all around the sides of my frying pan or wok. I also get bits of skin forming around the sides of the pan, where it usually bubbles a lot as it is frying.

The end result always smells and tastes the same. Bland, watery (even though the consistency is right), burnt and flavourless.

I have tried cooking on a low heat as well on my domestic range, and although it doesn't stick as bad, its still pretty much the same.
I tried a madras afterward just to experiment as there is no sugar involved, and that turned out burnt and disgusting as well. 

I am guessing the problem lies in the base, although it seems fine when I make a Korma  ???

I have uploaded some pics to try and show what my attempts look like. The dhansak looks like it should but it doesn't taste anything like the real thing. Its barely edible! Any ideas what im doing wrong?

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BIR Main Dishes Chat / Interesting Dhansak results
« on: August 22, 2009, 07:04 PM »
I made a new batch of base today which was called "melting base 3" from another curry website.

I made a dhansak using this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsHkWMahkkY


I used a wok burner that runs off a BBQ gas canister and I found that the sauce reduced too quickly, stuck to the edges of the pan and tasted burnt, even though the flames on the video are much bigger than on my wok burner.

I tried twice using the wok burner with 2 different pans (both restaurant grade pans)

One was aluminium, the other was black iron.


I then tried following the video on my domestic gas range at a lower heat, and the results were much better (still not perfect).

The sauce took the same ammount of time to reduce as on the video, and it tasted much better.



Has anyone else found that cooking with less heat produces a better end result? Any tips on keeping the pan from sticking and burning?

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I have tried many of the recipes on this site, and I am using this base http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcM05hByWaw

Which has produced the best results for me so far (ive tried a few from this site as well)

I can make a fairly decent korma, but when I try and make a madras or a pathia, the end result tastes bland and almost watery even though the sauce is the right consistency and I havent added any water. Its as if there is something missing.

The base itself tastes bland but I have heard that it should be.

I use a black iron pan, sometimes a wok on a wok burner (hot wok) that runs off a BBQ gas canister.


Does anyone else have this problem?

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Curry Base Chat / Just made a mistake while making a base sauce
« on: July 15, 2009, 03:38 PM »
I was making a base sauce from one of the recipes on this forum and I spontaneously decided to throw a star anise and a black cardamom into the pot.

I completely forgot they were in there when I blended the base and now I am assuming they have been ground up and blended into the base as they are nowhere to be seen!

There are no hard chunks in the base, im guessing after an hour of simmering they softened quite a bit and I cant taste either of them significantly so I might have got away with it!

Has this ever happened to anyone else? Do you think it will matter?

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