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Ceylon / Re: CA's Chicken Ceylon
« on: September 08, 2014, 12:56 AM »
Made this for the second time last weekend. A real hit, this is now the recipe of choice from the wife. It really was as good as any curry I've tasted from a BIR. Thanks CA !

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Several curries I have eaten include this mince in the sauce. To recreate this at home I've just fried off some lamb mince until it begins to brown in some ghee, then added some water and simmered for about 20 mins with the lid on the saucepan. Then added this mince to the curry sauce.

The recipe I tried to recreate was shahi keema handi - mince and lentils in a bhuna type sauce.

However the tandoori chicken pieces and minced lamb in a tikka masala style sauced with some extra zing is the closest I've got to the murgh massallam as mentioned earlier

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Cheers ! When I finally unpack the computer from the house move I'll try and get my a$$ in gear and type up the whole recipe in case anyone else gets curious  :)


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Well I finally got round to trying this tonight. I followed the suggestions, frying off some lamb mince then simmering it for 20 mins adding to a bhuna sauce recipe, then mixing with some cooked chana dal finally stirring in some whisked egg. Bought a smile to my wife's face so I guess it must have been fairly close.

Thanks all for your help on this  :)

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Hey guys, nice to see this thread still going strong! I wish I could edit the OP as the Lemon Dressing shouldn't be in there (it causes the batter to break up) and I wouldn't add any salt if marinading the onions overnight. In fact I'd probably just add the aniseeds for overnight so the onions take on the flavour and soften a little but not too much. My guess from the last set of pics was that all the dry ingredients went in all night meaning a lot of water came out of the onions and made them very soft. This might explain why the batter looked cakey and a bit too dense.

Making flat ones seems like it should be easier but I find them harder. I think the trick is to cook them round for 10 - 12 minutes at 130 - 140 then squash them flat inside a metal chefs ring. This means they will spread out and flatten but shouldn't break apart. I used to prefer them flat but I probably prefer round ones now if they are cooked through.

Ya the dry ingredients were all left in overnight causing the onions to be quite translucent the next day (although that did make them easier to mould). I can't recall how much liquid had come out, but I know from re-reading i put the salt in at the start and left overnight so that will definately have drawn out a lot of liquid and was in error. I still also think my batter was a bit off and next time i'll post more stepwise photos... if i can get the batter off my cameraphone !!

Cheers for the advice

Math

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Returned from our last visit with some sneaky photos of the leftovers to illustrate best what I meant. Hopefully it will inspire others to have a stab and i'll post up any attempts I've tried together with the criticism from my missus !! (Ignore the lumps of paneer in it ... She likes it that way)

Again - any comments welcome...

Math

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I think you have answered your own question MM. Make a keema curry bhuna or balti style and add pre cooked lentils then whisk an egg and pour it in and stir through.

As Frank says, it does sound a little odd but I would be willing to give it a go. :)

Like I said I'll try and get a photo and if I do end up trying ill post some pictures of my efforts

 ;D

Thanks for the support

Math

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Perhaps you could convince them to allow you one of those mini fryers that could be tucked away neatly. ;)

The cakeyness can be due to several things. Making small finger finger food sized portions is certainly of of them as you need a fair bit of batter to hold them together.

Overall though, I found the most important thing to get right was the ratio of onion to batter and the batter's consistency. You need a very thick and sticky batter hardly what I would call a batter, more like a paste. Then you need a good deal of onion but not too much that you can't form a ball.

Wetting your hands before forming the bhaji is also key. This allows you to form the bhaji uniformly and to stop your hands becoming caked in the so called batter. The water from your hands will mix with the batter on the outside to form a wetter solution whilst the centre remains still quite dry.

It's probably the last method you might think of to make a haji, but it is the only way to reach bhaji nirvana ;)

Thanks for that, ill try next time and keep up the pressure on the fryer lol

Cheers

Math

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How is it served? Are the main ingredients combined or separate in anyway?

I'd go with a bhuna style dish for the keema adding base as needed, a fairly dry tarka dal and scrambling the eggs with a little onion and green chili. Is that anywhere close?

It's served as a fairly dry curry with the lentils still whole. To me it looks like a wet mix of lentils scrambled egg and keema all bound together with a medium bhuna or Balti style sauce with some bits of bell pepper, onion and green chilli all in. It is all served in the same bowl and as I mentioned the egg is running through it the closest way I can describe it really finely shredded or as if the raw egg has been stirred into the sauce a little like the egg in egg fried rice maybe?

Hope that makes it a little clearer, ill try and get a photo next time we go!

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They do undeniably look good but, to me, they also look wrong. They have that 'cakey' texture to the batter which you don't get on the best onion bhajis.

That will be the gram flour and a little heavy handed with the squeezing.  ;)  Look pretty edible to me though all the same.

I think my batter was too heavy hence the cakeyness, can't wait for try 2

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