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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / Differences Matter...
« on: August 30, 2022, 05:20 AM »
I am not one with a deep palate, I cannot tell 4,000... 400.. or even 40 teas from each other.. I try some and like what I like, I go no further.
Similarly with Curry.. there are some I like, some I REALLY like (CurryHell!) and others that just don't even warrant a second try... it is my 'taste', so to speak.  We are all different!

I have resisted the recent Balti threads because I just don't have the experience of what they are trying to reproduce and more likely the palate to tell the difference (fantastic effort Livo to overcome the former and with your experimentation and ability of the later).

I have nothing valid left to contribute.
I wish everyone the very best in your continued search for... whatever it is you are looking for.

BAJ.

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Things that could "go wrong"!!
Having made this base as specified and then following up with the Chicken Balti (pretty simple dish to cook), where did it go wrong?

My money would be on it going wrong when making the akhni stock.   

Really? ...yeah, yeah, I did accidentally leave the lid off so had more water loss than I should have but you think that is the reason I find the base bland?

Whilst you would end up with less liquid stock, wouldn't you by the same token end up with a more concentrated stock*?  We have all done that with base before (reduced) so that we can rehydrate during cooking.

*assumption that the cooking time was the same and the liquid loss did not force an early stop to the stock production, which might reduce the concentration of flavours.

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Grow Your Own Spices and Herbs / Re: Chilli grow 2022
« on: August 25, 2022, 03:04 AM »
Great crop there...

Seconded.

I have 9 plants at the moment (that I had to seed this year), 4 Caribbean blend, all around 3ft (1m) tall and with varying amounts of fruit so far... some were neglected and left in direct sunlight during our recent hot spells, they burnt and are now recovering but with less fruit compared to the others.  The other 5 are Habanero, like the Yellow's in your picture.  They are enjoying being in the greenhouse where the atmosphere is warmer, more humid but the sunlight is diffused (they have not burnt) but are much slower growing and have not fruited yet although they are flowering quite optimistically.

I will take some pics when there is something more to show than a few green chilli and lots of flowers, respectively.

BAJ.

P.S.
I still have some 'Cherry Bombs' left from a couple of years ago, frozen.  I use them mainly in Chilli-con-carne (I make it in a large 5 Litre/9 Pint pan), although I only make around 10 portions at a time, they are much too strong for a Curry even if I am batch cooking.  I wonder how the potency would compare if I could have dehydrated and ground them as you have done Robbo and then kept airtight for up to 2 years. Intriguing!

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« on: August 21, 2022, 06:04 AM »
...he would normally use his mixed powder. Instead he breaks it down and uses stated quantities of single spice powders....
He uses Balti paste.  Yes indeed, and he shows a big bottle of commercial Patak's Balti Paste, but he then says he makes his own using yogurt and spices (undisclosed) and uses this in the dish instead.

I have long since lost any interest in someone (2nd link) who is trying to instruct me in anything and says they normally use (A) but you can use x+y+z to make it instead.  Mix Powders for example, all invariably use Curry Powder but then what is in the Curry Powder mix has been a discussion before.  We aren't all about to go down that Rabbit hole again of what is in a Curry Powder and in what proportions.

When they (Chef's) say they are using a particular product, like a custom Paste or a family recipe for Garam Masala etc, to create the product they are trying to endorse, they can't (to my mind) then be vague about it and suggest a different product and imply you will get the same result.  Surely it is the exact result they are trying to demonstrate that we want to achieve? Am I being too critical and they are just really trying to show me how to cook onions and boil water?

I have watched a few and as soon as I see this, I just write-off anything else that chef might have uploaded or be broadcasting... 'Fool me once..'

(cynical) BAJ

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« on: August 13, 2022, 01:57 AM »
I think next time I'll remove all whole spices and I believe it will benefit from this.

That part is always confusing to me.. often omitted from any descriptive method, as if it is obvious.  I remove large items, such as bay leaf when I think it has 'done it's bit' and Cassia before I think it will overpower any other spices.  That in itself is why I am 'resistant' to making MDB's.. grinding up 55g of bark (no mention of removing it)... I would want to 'cook' it for a lot longer than just 1 hour before I risk putting it in a blender???  Maybe I have missed a trick/step about removing it?

BAJ

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« on: August 13, 2022, 12:10 AM »
Back to Balti ... I was going to try Misty Ricardo's recipe first but does anyone think Mick's recipe is better? Even if it is better, perhaps Misty's recipe stands a better chance of being like the balti at Shababs.

I have been using MR's pre-cook method for Chicken and a Beef variation with Welshknuckles recipe for Base Gravy for a long time.  I have really enjoyed the resulting Balti, more than my local takeaways back then (not had one from a takeaway for a few years and unfortunately cannot compare it a Birmingham).

I still have some Base left and whilst Curry is always delicious, we have not been eating many hot meals in this house for the last 2-3 months (George would nod in appreciation I think), except for the occasional Chicken Burrito, which I made a while ago in the slow cooker, portioned, froze and reheat in the microwave, assembling with fresh vegetables.

I will get around to trying MDB Balti.. but not yet.

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Balti
« on: August 09, 2022, 04:57 AM »
I'm going to conduct an experiment today.

Despite and given your recent admission.. your continued experimentation to try a dish that barely any of us has eaten the original of, and even if we had, could barely remember it, is EXEMPLARY!

Your research, methods and comparisons are most enlightening.

Thank you!  :like:

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Binned my Balti
« on: July 25, 2022, 11:58 PM »
Wow, that curry is swimming in oil. So much for the claim by Zaf Hussain that much of the oil burns off in the flaming and any excess can be spooned off.  Interestingly mustard oil does not feature in the recipes or videos.  Maybe it's tired old reclaimed "spiced" oil from the bhaji fryer.

When I saw the picture, I thought it look OK, apart from the Oil (not a big fan of it, had too many takeaways that were half oil, some onion/tomato/pepper and a few bits of meat).

After a recent post I made about the cost of Oil, I think Livo may have nailed it.  A quick calc using commercial pricing of KTC Veg. Oil is about £2.20 per litre where as their Mustard Oil is £7.56 per litre... so I can't imagine they are using Mustard Oil as a substitute.  I had some oil that I kept in a separate container for use when deep frying Onion Bhaji, etc... but I remember once, it had been used a little too often or maybe left a little too long and when I went to use it the next time, the smell was so Rancid as it warmed I never used it!

I am sad that you had such a bad experience; your commentary was enthusiastic up until you tried it.  :like:

BAJ

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I have been following this thread closely and since we are now digressing into other chef's versions of a Balti I feel I can comment.

I have never been to Brum, so never had one of the fabled dishes but I have had "Baltis" from numerous places in West Yorkshire over the last 40 years (Not sure what you can make of that qualification!).

I am not inclined to make this Base as it is only for this one dish and to be honest, I am not a great fan of Cassia/Cinnamon so when I saw the massive amount and the stress placed on using that quantity (with almost no other spices given the volume) I immediately decided to give it a miss.  So without that, does it make the Balti's I have eaten and subsequently cooked Bland? I would say not.

What I will comment on is if all the 'cooking' is essentially done in the base and I believe the reduction there is the key (I have over reduced sauces and gravies before in other cooking styles and ended up with extremely strong flavours but not always palatable), then maybe the other spice flavours come back to the fore, however I wonder how much of that would be once again from the Cassia.

Rarely do I cook with Red meats anymore... for no other reason than the cost... and imho Chicken just cannot stand out in an actual Balti.

BAJ.

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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / Very Sunny UK
« on: July 16, 2022, 05:19 AM »
The UK max. Temp ever recorded, 38.7c

First ever UK Heat warning, Temperatures of 40c+

2 weeks ago, a weather forecaster was poo-pooing a UK met. forecast by 1 of the 7 supercomputers saying that the temperature might reach 40c... the rest predicted a max of 37c.
Now it is 70% lilkely that we will hit 40c and 50% that we will exceed it...

Are you scared yet?

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