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Lets Talk Curry / Re: The Curry Book
« on: February 03, 2008, 05:05 AM »
There can be little doubt that the sonali is the restaurant and the cottage of india is the takeaway that andy claims his recipes are from.  The postive news for andy is that at least there are a restaurant and takeaway somewhere in the picture.  The questions that remain are:

  • is andy (or ali) associated with them in any way
  • if so how
  • are andys/rcrs/thecurrybooks recipes from these places as andy claims
  • are the curries from these places actually any good
  • do andys recipes faithfully reproduce them

God dont you just love a good mystery agatha christie couldnt do a better job  ::)

Sorry ca there goes that bloody smilie again  :P

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: The Curry Book
« on: January 28, 2008, 03:12 AM »
At the time of writing, this thread has had 2647 views
And no one's bought the book?
Is it the price?
All I really want to know, is which restaurant the recipes come from
Surely some RCR members view this site too
So please, someone tell me
Is there a genuine restaurant credited?

Seems not then haldi  ::)

Adminandy/admin have this to say about these things on rcr:

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The melting base recipes on the forum are a derivative of the "Savoury and Mild" based recipes and form a set of recipes from the businesses associated at the time to Ali

So ali used to be associated with "the restaurant" and "the takeaway" but isnt any more.  Would you credit it huh?  ::)

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The Ebook recipes and website have no connection to Ali at all

Therefore the ebook recipes are not from "the restaurant' and "the takeaway" that ali used to be associated with.  Who would have thought huh?  ::)

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I am not going to talk about business information openly on this forum

LMAO of course hes not, he presumably wants to weave an even bigger tangled web of apparent deceipt, deception and lies than he already seems to have done

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it is just safe to say that a full set of the melting base recipes (not the ebook recipes) will be provided on the forum as used by the chefs of the relevant businesses associated at the time with Ali

Can you believe it  :o.  "safe to say" ROFLMAO The inference is that there are NEW and DIFFERENT restaurants and takeaways now that ali is part of and yet MORE melting base recipes.  What a joke. 

I used to think that andy was content removed as inappropriate by CA.  Now i can see hes also content removed as inappropriate by CA that takes everyone else for one.  Unfortunately it seems that some people are more than happy to comply

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There are similarities between the melting base recipes and the recipes in the ebook although the differences give each one their characteristic individuality (as restaurant to restaurant)

What the hell is he on about  :-\.  Taking lessons in unplain english from others on his site i see  ;D. 

What he means i think is that there is no restaurant or takeway, hes made it all up and hes changed the recipes once again  ::)

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the currybook website is a commercial venture with owners and sponsors

ROFLMO  So he finally admits the truth then

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The currybook website will have it's own forum for all purchasers of the book giving everyone who buys the book the opportunity to discuss the recipes and talk with the actual chefs

OFFS he just cant help himself can he  ::)

Of course it will.  Oh joyful rcr members lmao.  They have to go and join that one too.  Why not pay to download some vidoes (that are not of ali's restaurant or takweway because hes no longer associated with them) whilst your about it lol

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They (thats all of us) just have not got a clue who owns what, who works for who and more so how many restaurants are involved and such it goes on. They can keep asking questions on there but no-one is going to answer them are they!


yep, that just about sums the whole sorry and sordid affair up doesnt it  ::)

And lets not forget the following:

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The other site (thats us) are then going to have a trip out to the restaurant to see Andy and Ali face to face. Well lets be right, may be a car full and then they would not see Andy and Ali, well not if they go to the restaurant mentioned in the book anyway!!

Oh what a BIG surprise that is then  ::)

Hell, even im bored with it all now. 

Please delete these threads or lock them admin.  Andys gone well beyond a joke now surely.

And still they will blindly follow  ::)

All opinions are mine and mine alone of course however mental i may seem  ;)

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: The Curry Book
« on: January 28, 2008, 03:00 AM »
Ianr's sarcastic comment about the ebook on rcr:

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I noticed on the website (the currybook website) that there is a cashback offer for recommendations. I'll see if our friend Woks Up want's a copy  If he hasn't bought it already

So i naturally assumed he was giving it to me for free:

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Oh, and im still waiting for my free copy of the curry book that ianr so kindly said hed get for me

and ianr's sarcastic reply on rcr:

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Latest news from No2 site is that apparently I am supplying them with a copy of the book

he's even got a smilie at the end saying "im with stupid".  Yes Ian, i think you probably are  ::)

i sure wouldnt pay for a copy ::)

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: The Curry Book
« on: January 19, 2008, 02:26 PM »
hahahahh, you're really funny IanR roflamo

I never knew I was so many schizophrenic characters  ;D

Whilst im really flattered Im sure many of those people will be truly insulted  :P

At least all the names make sense though hey  ;)

Anyway its totally besides the point ian.  Im not claiming to have recipes from a restaurant that has been in existance for 10 years plus now am i  ::)

Nor am i trying to get 15 quid a pop for an ebook off the back of that claim am i

Nor does it answer the questions i posed does it

Try and keep up with the plot mate, hey  ::)

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: The Curry Book
« on: January 19, 2008, 07:42 AM »
And apparently rcr is "the fastest growing indian community on the internet" with over 5500 members now  ::)

They welcome the likes of "Jinesversinger", "Neupquerycapy", "Opebsistuptuh" (presumably from Nigeria  ::)), "UphoxiaponRip", "encantoghehido (Ethiopia?) and so on.  I could go on and name another 5000 plus similar common names but ill spare you the tedium  ::)

And some of the names are really so obscure as to be unbelievable such as the ones who actually post "CurryCanuck", "Channa Doll", "adminAndy", "IanR", "King Prawn" etc  ::)

Who is this guy really trying to kid  ::)

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: The Curry Book
« on: January 19, 2008, 07:36 AM »
You'll probably choose not to clearly answer these simple questions.  I think they are reasonable questions seeking to clarify the situation and add credence to your bir restaurant recipe claims on both rcr and in the ebook. But you'll probably treat them with contempt and ridicule and dismiss them as being irrelevant.  In which case you only have yourselves to blame for the ongoing doubt and mistrust that you've created haven't you

Oh the silence is deafening.  And doesnt it speak volumes  ::)

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: The Curry Book
« on: January 13, 2008, 08:40 AM »
youre right there secret santa im as mental as a march hare in hell  ::)

and errrr why do you keep writing then?  ::)

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: The Curry Book
« on: January 12, 2008, 08:48 AM »
Im also not getting it now haldi I must admit.

I have tried to decipher "steves" (rcr admin) latest ramblings on rcr (the stuff in quotes is "steves").  Ive put the more interesting stuff up front and the largely insulting, irrelevant and boring stuff at the end:

This following claim leaves me rather bemused - "thecurrybook.com" (which seems to be there to promote and sell the curry book, the indian chef cook video series etc)  "has no ties to rcr and is run independently as a business".  Apparently "this has been made quite clear" lol  :o

Huh?  What would they have us believe here then?  That the curry book now has nothing to do with rcr? I thought the "tie" was clear.  Andy is seemingly the registered owner of rcr - or are they going to deny this too? lmao  Rcr has been promoting the curry book as some sort of spin-off compilation of rcr recipes (and was to include rcr member curry photos, screen names, comments, etc).  Andy is also writing the curry book (seemingly together with G Zilanee who may or may not be Ali) and "thecurrybook.com" is seemingly formerly promoting and selling it?  The "tie" seems pretty clear to me.  Maybe I just don't understand it or cant read properly? lol   ::)

And I thought I was joking when I quipped that soon they'll be telling us andy has no connection to rcr either! rofl   ::)

That's about all there is of the interesting stuff.  The following is less interesting because it tells us nothing:  ::)

"Steve" has attached copies of two short and rather uninformative emails (in the context of this debate) allegedly from the registrar of two of the seven plus sites that I ("the ill informed woks up" lol) "keeps spouting about" lol.  "Steve" has apparently "checked with the registrar for absolute confirmation".  Of what though he fails to say roflmao :P

Maybe he forgot what it was he was supposed to be confirming? They seem to reveal nothing other than "moving" a domain from one account to another?  Two sites, no dates, no nothing.  They tell us nothing about the current or previous registered owners of the seven plus sites mentioned.  Would they really have us believe that andy has no connection with nor ever has had any connection with any of these sites, despite andy apparently being the registered owner of all of them and having his name (as forum administrator mostly) and/or email address (as the "contact us" person) being splattered over most of them.....until some of the sites were edited or deactivated on Wednesday of course? lol  Would they have us believe that my registrant information is all wrong?  Surely not?  We may be stupid but not THAT stupid lol.  Amazingly some people at rcr think this "important information" clarifies things?  Huh? roflmao  ::)

Now for the largely insulting, irrelevant and boring stuff:

There are individuals on this site that "breed on bullsh**t" (seems like he means you lot - charming).  There are people like me who "generate it" (ie "bullsh**t") through not understanding it" or "have to take things as read without actually getting the facts correct first".  Trust me steve I can sniff out "bulsh**t" from a million miles away ::)

There are "leading sheep" (presumably that's me lol) and there are "followers who simply follow" (seems like he means you lot again - charming) and "George and Haldi" are "another classic example.... yet more...to have a laugh at..."  I hope your sides are splitting "steve" - charming :o

There is a "community" that has very few complimentary words to say about "the other site" (that's us folks).  Our name is being "passed around" said esteemed "community".  Cr0 is "in the process of being added" to a list "of sites that support publishing of false information". Oh my lmao ::)

Seemingly, they at rcr have knowledge and "have a good laugh" at "the individual..(and)..at the site supporting it" (that's all of us folks) with "a lack of knowledge on a subject" (yes, that's us again). 

Yes, as usual, deny, confuse and ridicule rather than clarify the situation again steve.  Nice one "steve" ::)

Why oh why are they STILL rambling and denying andys involvement in all of these other sites?  Its enough to make ANYONE doubt that everythings kosher I imagine?  ::)

Here we go steve/andy, try getting your heads around these simple questions if you would:

-  Is andy in this venture for commercial gain (yes or no please)? 
-  If so, did he have this in mind before he became a member of cr0 (yes or no please)?
-  What is the name and address of the restaurant and takeaway andy claims to get the recipes from? 
-  If you cant tell us, please tell us why you cant?
-  Are G.Zilanee and Ali the same person (yes or no please)?
-  Does andy have ANY association with any of the seven plus sites mentioned (yes or no please)?
-  If so, which ones and what association? 
-  Has he EVER had any association with any of the seven plus sites mentioned (yes or no please)?
-  If so, which ones and what association?
-  Has andy transferred ownership and registration of the seven plus sites mentioned (yes or no please)?
-  If so, which ones, when (dates please) and why?
-  Did you, or someone you have any connection with, alter and/or deactivate the seven plus mentioned sites on 9th January (yes or no)?
-  If so, why?

You'll probably choose not to clearly answer these simple questions.  I think they are reasonable questions seeking to clarify the situation and add credence to your bir restaurant recipe claims on both rcr and in the ebook. But you'll probably treat them with contempt and ridicule and dismiss them as being irrelevant.  In which case you only have yourselves to blame for the ongoing doubt and mistrust that you've created haven't you  ::)

Again I stress that these are all my personal views and not necessarily shared by those of cr0 or its administration or owner.  And noone needs to read or respond to my drivel if they don't want to.  If youre not interested just ignore it

I just want clarity and honesty.  But all we seem to get is smoke, mirrors and bemusing denials and deceit.  I probably wont shut up until I get what I want.  So you might want to lock this thread now guys it could be a very long time coming  ::)

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: The Curry Book
« on: January 11, 2008, 12:34 AM »
According to "steve" (admin) at rcr my "outbursts" are "ill informed", I "gets most of it all wrong" and "the mentioned sites "Mexican-Food-Recipes" belongs to and is run by a company in AZ, "Italian-Food-Recipes" is owned and run by an organisation in Italy. "Chinese-Food-Recipes" is privately owned by an individual with no connection to us either" he says  ::)

Well, lets look at the some of the available facts shall we.  Bear in mind that "someone" was busy deleting many of these as I was making my previous posts.  I wonder why?   ::)

This is the public domain registration information for the sites mentioned:

Registered Domain name:             chinese-food-recipe.co.uk
Registrant:                   Andy Roberts
Relevant dates:          Registered on: 18-Mar-2007
                          Renewal date:  18-Mar-2009
                                        Last updated:  08-Jan-2008

Registered Domain name:             italian-food-recipe.co.uk
Registrant:                   Andy Roberts
Relevant dates:          Registered on: 20-Mar-2007
                    Renewal date:  20-Mar-2009
                    Last updated:  14-Dec-2007

Registered Domain name:             mexican-food-recipe.co.uk
Registrant:                   Andy Roberts
Relevant dates:          Registered on: 20-Mar-2007
                           Renewal date:  20-Mar-2009
                                        Last updated:  05-Jan-2008

Registered Domain name:             foodbazaar.co.uk
Registrant:                   Andy Roberts
Relevant dates:          Registered on: 14-Apr-2007
                          Renewal date:  14-Apr-2009
                                        Last updated:  14-Apr-2007

Registered Domain name:             spicesandherbs.co.uk
Registrant:                   Andy Roberts
Relevant dates:          Registered on: 01-Apr-2007
                    Renewal date:  01-Apr-2009
                    Last updated:  02-Apr-2007

Registered Domain name:             all-recipe.co.uk
Registrant:                   Andy Roberts
Relevant dates:          Registered on: 18-Mar-2007
                                        Renewal date:  18-Mar-2009
                                        Last updated:  18-Mar-2007

Registered Domain name:             realcurryrecipes.co.uk
Registrant:                   Andy Roberts
Relevant dates:          Registered on:  30-Jan-2007
                    Renewal date:  30-Jan-2009

Note some of the very recent updates to this registrant information, the chinese restaurant one as recently as 8th January!  Maybe he just forgot that he has a connection with them then?   ::)

I also have many screen shots of the mentioned sites before they were modified or deactivated on the 9th January as I was posting.  But I'll spare you these details unless requested otherwise because im sure most of you will find it exceedingly boring and maybe consider it all a bit irrelevant. 

But everything points to an absolutely clear connection to andy and these sites.  So why the continual denial and deception?  All rather strange for someone claiming to have "no connection with" these sites don't you think?  Next hell be telling us he has nothing to do with rcr I expect.   ::)

I have no objection to anyone making money from these ventures but its this continual denial and deceit that rankles me.  Why wouldn't he just say that hes developed the sites and sold them or given them away (cos hes a good guy not in it for money oh no) to someone else or whatever the situation is?  Why pull the wool over eyes and expect people to follow him like sheep?  What?  Oh they do  :P

And for those that think this has absolutely no bearing on the topic of this thread, ask yourself this, are you buying a genuine rolex (and paying the price for it) or are you getting one actually made in china despite the claims to the contrary?  :-\

And for any of you not interested in this stuff dont read it.

These views are all mine my personal views of course and are not necessarily those of or endorsed by cr0 or its administration or its owners.

I would discuss them on rcr but they continually ban me amidst personal insults, questioning of my intelligence and general childish ridicule from their hardcore (and some soft core ones too)  ::)

Maybe you should lock this thread now its seems to be going nowhere fast and is all getting pretty boring.  Lets see what happens when the book comes out.   :-\

Available free as a pdf you say secret santa?  I think ill wait then  ;)

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: The Curry Book
« on: January 09, 2008, 09:45 AM »
Hahahahah.....lmao...that sites been deactivated TOO now  :o

Thats amazing!  Covering tracks or what!  ::)

Luckily I took screen shots and saved my internet cache  ;)

Try to tell me THATS the actions of a man to be trusted ::)

What a devious scoundrel he seems to be!  :P

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