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hi guys/gls
this the curry sauce that was extracted from the post by mark j went to a takeaway and spoke to the owner thread

this is the recipe as i can find from the posting when mark j spoke to a take away owner and chef curry sauce

Just been to my friendly takeaway tonight and talked to him at length about the base sauce.

He said start with vegie oil and fry garlic and ginger

Add chilli powder, curry powder, turmeric and salt. I said I use rajah curry powder and he said that would fine in the kind of way that meant basically any curry powder would be fine.

Add onions, carrots, green peppers, celery, fresh coriander and tomato paste, add water.

Simmer for an hour, then liquidise, then cook on high for 10 minutes and low for 5 minutes, job done. He leaves it overnight and said this added to the flavor.
This is a full recipe of base sauce in the quantity that a BIR would make, when I refer to chefs spoons below I am referring to the big spoon they use to make all the curries, I estimate this is approx 2 table spoons, all measurements are round spoons, not level nor heaped
In this 14-16" pan add veg oil up to a depth of 3/4 inch, heat on a high heat

Add 2 chefs spoons each of ginger and garlic puree, he was at great pains to point out to me this should be cooked until brown as Pete has seen before and to make sure I keep stirring it.

When brown add 1.5 chefs spoons each of curry powder and turmeric, add half a level chefs spoon of chilli powder
Stir quickly frying for a short while and then add some water "otherwise it gets too sticky/thick"

Next add the following chopped:
30-35 onions (thats no typo!)
5/6 carrots "or 4 big ones"
3 green peppers
half a bunch of celery
and half a cooks spoon of salt
2 desert spoons of garam masala "be careful not to over do this as it will easily dominate the base if you add too much", this is equivalent to 4 level TSP
fresh coriander and tomato paste

He adds only 1 heaped cooks spoon of tomato paste to the base
Basically he uses the jelly exactly as you found out, he said it takes ages much longer than the base, boil the carcass for hours with turmeric, cinamon, cardamom,bay etc then skim the jelly off when cold.
To show me how much coriander he held up his hand with fore finger to thumb in a circle about the size of a 10p piece,

regards
gary

ps will post blades 10 onion recipe from the same thread as soon as i have time ;)

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cp
i don't understand what you mean  :-[ as i have been around since beginning i may have some printouts of the recipes. did anyone copy and paste the updates into one final recipe for this base? and i'm intrigued as to your alarm bells ringing(have you been at the chicken (hasish) phall again) ::)

regards
gary

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hi g/gls
he does mention it but does not give the ingredients but i think he sells it on his website i also think it is in the currylinks section ;) and remember that we (cr0 members) get discount on anything we buy from it :)

hope this helps

gary

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Curry Base Chat / Re: no oil on finished base why?????
« on: October 12, 2006, 09:24 PM »
hi g/gls
this oil thing... well i have tried many ways of cooking the base and final dishes.... blending the with the oil in the base and the oil disappears but does it no no no ...it will reappear in your final dish thats where the oil appears again. if you read the threads for the recipes and methods in the demos shown to all pete, curryqueen, curryking mark j and admin there seems to be a very close connection  ::) approx 4 tbsp of veg oil or reclaimed spice oil from the curry sauce if you add a little water to the final dish just before you have added the spices it seems to work then when you have the end of the cooking process of the final curry remove any excess oil the add the coriander(leaf ) i'm not sure if you fill the wok for four peeps sauce you would get the same results as restaurants would only(imo)cook a maximum of 2 peeps dishes together (pans not big enough......and they have to be the same dish doh!)
hope this is some help

regards
gary

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hi
you could try the recipe in the curryhouse cookery by bruce edwards in the downloads section. funny you should ask for this recipe as on tuesday night i cooked this and tonite i am eating the leftovers :o no there wasn't much left but then again when was the last time you wasted an indian takeaway? i used the rajver curry gravy again posted somewhere on this site(idiot being a member for like a gazzilion years still don't know how to post a link to recipes i have posted ::))
anyway if you follow the recipe method in this download curryhouse cookery but rather than adding 1 1/4 ladels of sauce use the evaoporation of the first 7oz ladle to intensify the flavour before bubbling to conclusion it is superb and just like in the restaurant the i have had ;)
hope this helps and happy curry cooking

regards
gary :)

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{I LOVE Lamb Karahi}
try the recipe for chicken khorai which i posted it does not incorporate a curry sauce so was deemed by the peeps or should i sat dismissed on this site as an authentic dish ??? but it is listed on most menus in restaurants as a special or a favourite. anyway no harm in trying it?

regards
gary

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hi currychris
don't worry as i have a knob too. but i still churn oout a bloody good currry. it is all in the cooking of the final curry. cooking of the spices, generous amount of oil reused if you can and not burning  it  :)
these with the room and the money have the luxury of gas burner and can even flambe the only advantage of these is that the flame is so high if cooks from the outside in and ours just cooks in the centre so we can't just leave it we have to be more vigilant and stir regularly so as to ensure that it does not stick to the bottom of the pan >:(
i do find that using the lid to my wok helps with the speed of cooking to acheiving the same results. finally if you remove the curry from the heat and let it settle and cool slightly the taste is .................well you decide ;)

regards
gary

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hi cc & cp
cc. try it without the garlic and add the garlic to the final dish as this curry sauce does nit need it.
cp if your customers have allergies for garlic then this sauce is perfect  there is no real need for garlic to create most of the dishes korma/pasanda/madras/etc. all i say is just try it. and it is perfect start for newbies :)

the initial heat from the chillies will subside so will be come mellower.
cp try this sauce with the korma recipe i posted with the korma paste and my interpreptation of chicken korma ;)

hope someone is listening out there
just made the 15 chicken vindaloo in a row or is it more can't remember ;D

also if you add 4 tbsp of vegetable ghee in the first 1/2 hour cooking adds something to it as well

regards
gary

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hi g/gls
here is the new and improved version of my locals curry gravy adapted by me ;)
i truly recommend making this as it only takes 1 hour from start to finish and you will not be sorry ;D
it is suitable for vegetarians and peeps with any allergies to nuts as it doesnot contain any not even coconut. and tastes delicious.and gets better as the week goes on ;)
here goes
RAJVER CURRY GRAVY(REVISITED)
            
   Ingredients

   4 large onions   
   1/2 green pepper   
   3 green chillies   
1(4-6?) carrot
1/2 tin plum tomatoes blended
1/2 tbsp salt
400ml  of veg oil
1/2 bunch fresh coriander
600ml water
2 tbsp tomato puree
1/2 tsp ajowan seeds
In a muslin place 3 black cardamoms,2 bay leaves,4 cloves, 1 2? piece of cinnamon bark(cassia bark preferable) tie up and place in with the vegetables.

CHOP/ SLICE  ALL THE INGREDIENTS and add to pot including muslin of whole spices  add ajowan seeds when pot comes to the boil. Boil for 30 minutes until onions, carrot and pepper are soft remove pot from heat and add

2 TBSP TURMERIC
1TBSP CHILLI POWDER   
1 TBSP GROUND CORIANDER
1 TBSP CUMMIN
1 TBSP GARAM MASALA   

SIMMER FOR ANOTHER 30 MINUTES, remove as much of the oil as you can and the muslin of whole spices THEN BLEND TO A SMOOTH PUREE with 100ml of hot water, pour oil and put the muslin cloth back in pot then add more hot water until you have a soup like consistency. PLACE IN A COOL PLACE READY FOR USE. You can refridgerate for 1week but remove the muslin after 3 days as the aroma will be as intense as you will need or could stand;-)

good luck

regards
gary

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Vindaloo / Rajver chicken vindaloo revisited and adapted
« on: September 24, 2006, 02:57 PM »
hi g/gls
here is the vindaloo which i have currently been cooking using the rajver curry gravy. i will say that you can use terry(ifindforu) restaurant masala mix instead or bruce edwards you will acheive a fab curry ;D

CHICKEN VINDALOO   
COOKING TIME 15-20 MINS
INGREDIENTS

3-4 TBSP VEG OIL
1TSP FINE CHOPPED GARLIC
1-2 TSP SALT
1 ? TSP RAJVER MASALA ( 2 turmeric 1 coriander 1 cumin 1 garam masala 1 chilli powder)
2-3 TSP CHILLI POWDER   
1-2 TSP TOMATO PASTE!
3-4 LADLES CURRY GRAVY
1TSP FINE CHOPPED CORIANDER   
3 TSP CHOPPED CORIANDER TO GARNISH   
1 PORTION OF PRECOOKED CHICKEN      
3-4 CUBES PRECOOKED POTATO
METHOD
HEAT THE OIL ON MEDIUM HIGH HEAT REMOVE FROM HEAT WHEN BUBBLES APPEAR ON THE EDGE THEN ADD SALT, RAJVER MASALA ,CHILLI POWDER, TOMATO PASTE SMOTHER AROUND PAN RETURN TO HEAT AND FRY FOR 30 SECONDS  ADD ALITTLE WATER TO STOP FROM STICKING  AND STIR WELL UNTIL SPICES ARE NOT GRAINY (DONOT BURN AT THIS STAGE). ADD 1 LADLE OF CURRY SAUCE MIX WELL FRY FOR 4-5 MINS ADD 2 MORE LADLES OF GRAVY  AND FRY FOR 1 MIN THEN ADD PRECOOKED CHICKEN AND STIR WELL. TURN DOWN THE HEAT AND SIMMER FOR 4-5 MINS. ADD THE PRECOOKED POTATOES STIR WELL  HEAT THROUGH ADD TSP CORIANDER COOK FOR 1-2 MINUTES MORE. REMOVE FROM HEAT ALLOW TO SIT WITH A LID ON THE PAN FOR 3 OR 4 MINS TO SETTLE THEN SERVE GARNISHED WITH 3TSP CORIANDER.
(THROUGHOUT COOKING STIR WELL AROUND THE PAN SHAKING OCCASSIONALLY TO ENSURE NO STICKING TO BOTTOM OF THE PAN.)

sorry george about the format  :-[

hope you peeps try it

regards
gary

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