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House Specialities / Re: Kashmiri Chicken Masala
« on: March 16, 2018, 09:49 AM »
That is my concern Phil. I'm certain we used to get the full range of Pataks here a decade ago.  Not today though. Thanks for the offer but I'll work it out.

Contains Mustard. I wonder?

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Traditional Indian Recipes / Re: Goat Dhansak
« on: March 16, 2018, 06:28 AM »
I watched a documentary one time years ago and I can't recall the details. Somebody here may remember it.  It was about a big open event cooking competition in India and these backyard cooks from around the country could enter and prepare their own best signature dish. They cooked them in big pots, on open fires, over primitive gas burners etc.

I'm pretty sure the old guy who ended up winning cooked either a Mutton or a Goat Dhansak. It must have been pretty good.  How much would you like to get the gig judging it?

I'm yet to try cooking a Dhansak but it is on the list.

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House Specialities / Re: Kashmiri Chicken Masala
« on: March 16, 2018, 05:12 AM »
Not too happy out here in the colonies. :(

I know this is a very, very old thread but it is the best place for me to post as I'm on a mission to cook this.  Unfortunately, I've hit some immediate hurdles. Unless I can come up with a suitable copy of either Bassar or Patak's Kashmiri Paste, my chances are a bit slim. I could buy 20 x 400g bags of Al Noor Bassar online and have it posted to me for anywhere between AUS $180 and $200, or I could try a single bag for about AUS $60. :o A 2.2 kg bottle of Pataks will cost me around AUS $100   ???  I don't think I'll be doing that and it may not succeed anyway.

I have some pretty good information I've dug up about the Bassar. I'm wondering if someone could post the listed ingredients of the Pataks Kashmiri paste.  I'd like to see if they are similar and then decide which is the best alternative between a home-made Bassar Masala or a home-made Kashmiri Paste.

As far as I can tell, there are no comparable Pakistani / Kashmiri Masalas or pastes available in Australia.  I went down to the local Indian Grocer today, "Namaste", and the lady there was on the phone to her hubby at the wholesaler in Sydney while I was present and giving her information.  I could just as well have been asking for a Dodo bird feather and the result would have been the same.

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: what is bassar curry masalla ?
« on: March 16, 2018, 01:41 AM »
Apparently Bassar Masala is not available in Australia. I read somewhere this morning of a member who couldn't find it in the USA either and someone commented it could be down to the Mustard Oil content.  Anyway, undeterred I started to see what I could find out about it and it isn't much.  It seems to be a bit of a closely guarded formula.

I want to use it in the Kashmiri Chicken Masala dish originally posted by 976Bar and modified by JerryM in this thread, kindly shown to me by Phil. http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=3585.msg32021

Apart from the listing of the ingredients (in order I hope) of the Al Noor brand it took ages to find 3 other versions with instructions.  These are from 3 different sites by Archana, Ammi ka Kitchen and Yesmien. They are similar in ways but different in others. I'll put the links up later.

Here is my usual spreadsheet analysis screenshot which is enough to go on should anyone wish to give one of them a try or make a hybrid from your own spice knowledge. At least it is a starting point, for me anyhow.

The transposition of the 3 different recipes from cup and spoon measures to grams and visa versa is very rough although I did do some weights and measures along the way.  24 Bay leaves in Archana's transposed recipe seems like quite a lot but they don't weigh much at 3 - 4 leaves per gram. Same concern for 12 whole nutmeg and 36 whole turmeric (fingers). How big is a whole turmeric piece and how do we convert that to grams or spoons of powdered?

The Ammi ka Kitchen version uses some whole / crushed ingredients and it's not a powder. It wont keep for long with the use of Fresh Garlic and Ginger as well as dried cranberries (or mango or plum). These could be swapped for powders and the berries omitted.

One thing I did read, but then couldn't find again, was the inclusion of Pomegranate seeds to give sourness / tartness in Kashmiri Masala.

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Korma / Re: Korma sauce
« on: March 15, 2018, 10:34 PM »
Sorry, Just my assumption after you made reference to removing shells from escargot in the chickpea thread. 

I've been doing some interesting research into Bassar / Basaar / Kashmiri Masala this morning.  It isn't something I've ever seen out here and I don't seem to be able to find it readily close by.  Very mysterious product.  I think I'd rather use it to the Pataks Kashmiri Paste if possible.  I have found some possibly useful information for the DIYers, such as myself, though, which I'll post in a more relevant thread.

Edit: Not available. Probably due to Mustard Oil content.

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Korma / Re: Korma sauce
« on: March 15, 2018, 08:01 PM »
So I'll take that to mean you didn't try the Kashmiri Chicken Masala, yet you'll eat snails and kidneys ;D Sausage is still acceptable on the Sanger.

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Korma / Re: Korma sauce
« on: March 15, 2018, 07:47 PM »
Thanks Phil. I wonder if Jenny ever found the thread. I've read the complete thread. There is a whole new direction for me to explore.

Banana goes with a lot of things. Interestingly, a very early curry night dinner for me 30 years ago was Sri Lankan and there was a banana and coconut sambal side dish, which we still make from time to time, usually for special occasions only now. Don't know why we don't have it more as it's so simple to do and delicious with curry.

I know your a fried egg man Phil. Bacon, fried egg (runny yolk) and caramelised banana with a splash of barbecue sauce. The best breakfast sandwich possible. Sometimes I'll add a slice of soft cheddar as well.

I Pm'd JennyLou90 in case she never found the recipe.

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Korma / Re: Korma sauce
« on: March 15, 2018, 08:39 AM »
976bar,

Is there a specific recipe i could follow for a Kashmiri Chicken Masala please?

Thanks

Jenny

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With regards to blending the sauce, I make a Kashmiri Chicken Masala which my son loves, in which I use half a chopped onion as part of the sauce.
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I too would like to know more of the Kashmiri Chicken Masala.

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Tandoori and Tikka / Re: chicken tikka from the Zaal in Fleet
« on: March 14, 2018, 11:40 PM »
You are right about the sometimes grainy appearance and texture of "Thick Curd" marination.  It does get a bit caked on and transfer a lot of spice to the final curry dish.  Some Tandoori / Tikka recipes actually stipulate to transfer excess marinade from the bowl to the meat before, and again during, the cooking process.

I recall reading somewhere a few years ago a discussion about the use of Yogurt / Curd in the marination of meats and especially chicken. It maybe on this site, I can't remember where I read it. Specifically, it related to the actual conditioning affect that a yogurt marinade has on the fibres of the meat and the time that should be allowed in such marination.  There was some pretty contradictory arguments in that some recipe instructions call for minimum overnight, 24 or even up to 48 hours and obviously this is a fairly common practise. From memory, apparently food science actually recommends only 30 minutes to an hour in a yogurt based marinade otherwise it starts to have a detrimental affect on the tissue and can actually lead to break down, toughening and / or drying out.

I know that I have experienced purchased Takeaway Tikka that was clearly left in a yogurt based marinade for way too long and you can't miss the tell-tale, almost powdery texture of the resultant chicken.  In my own cooking experience, I can't say I've had problems with a 24 hour marinade but I'm usually equally happy with one that is performed over a much shorter period.

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