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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / Re: The Hamburger
« on: August 28, 2023, 11:02 PM »
I'm not sure if it's available in the UK or USA, but over here beetroot is sold in tin cans (and now glass jars) in a preserved state.  It is not like raw beetroot but more or less cooked and pickled in a very basic way with minimal spices.  It is very popular and was always part of an Aussie summer table salad. It is not surprising then that it was used on salad sandwiches and burgers.  We have been eating these burgers for at least 50 years of my memory and it goes back further than that.  Apparently it goes back to at least the 1950s.

Beetroot is available in slices and as whole baby beets.  You can also buy or grow fresh ones that are great to bake in the oven with roast meals.  I have grown and preserved my own in the past but they are cheap enough to make it unnecessary.

I once dined upon a roast meal with a bloke from the UK who had married an Aussie.  He refused to eat roast pumpkin, stating that it was stock feed where he came from.  I always say don't knock it till you've tried it but if you can't get the beetroot or you really hate it then you can always leave it off.

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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / Re: The Hamburger
« on: August 27, 2023, 12:10 AM »
Robbo, the beauty of the hamburger is that you can have it however you like it.  Each one is for a person to eat alone so you can always ask for it to be made with or without any individual ingredient.  I'm not a fan of pineapple, as it can be too wet and firm making the whole thing soggy, difficult to eat and prone to falling apart.  I suggest cutting the rings in half thickness and drying with paper towel to alleviate this problem.  Often for me the beetroot is also left off as it too can make the thing difficult to eat and prone to disassembling itself in your hands.  If I'm making them at home, I will re-cut the beetroot to extra thin.  My wife on the other hand, loves the stuff and insists on it being there in full.  While the traditional Aussie Plain Hamburger does have beetroot, there are many who simply order it without.

When you buy a hamburger in the shop, it always comes wrapped tightly in a square of greaseproof paper and then popped inside a white paper bag.  This helps it stay together while you eat from the exposed side, and you simply pull the bag and paper back as you go. Sometimes the wrapping isn't up to the job.

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My curiosity is piqued and so I will have to give the Mixed Balti a bash.  I have had a prawn curry and a chicken curry (or several) in the same meal and even on the same plate before, but never prepared as a single dish.  I see no harm in trying it.

Phil, I have now tried a Paella with seafood and chicken.  I prepared one 2 nights ago (Thursday over here) and I must say it was thoroughly enjoyable. The feedback from my daughter was also positive after she took a serving home with her.  I had, by coincidence baked a chicken the night before which had "Paella Seasoning" (ie; flavoured rice stuffing and some spice rub) and so I used the leftover from that and added fish (barramundi), and prawns, along with other ingredients, including a chorizo sausage, bacon, onion, multicoloured capsicums, a few peas and olives.  I indulged and used half of my saffron.  Very nice indeed.  My wife was happy as it is a recipe I'd not used before, and it is tomato free.  I had to use kalamatas as I had no black olives.  I have calamari but forgot to include it.  Not to worry.  Next time.

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Paella is not a dish we eat regularly Phil but when we do, we usually have chicken and chorizo paella which is the family preference.  On the odd occasion we have had seafood paella it is seafood, ie, prawns, fish, scallops, mussels, squid but not chicken. I'm really the only one in the family who likes it so we don't eat it. Thinking about it, I would say the only thing I can recall ever eating that contained both would be Chinese Special Fried Rice which also has char sui pork.

I won't say there's anything wrong with the combination, but it isn't something I've ever seen over here, and it isn't something I'll rush into.

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Hmmm?  Not a combination I would choose.  I do chicken dishes and prawn dishes.  I like both but combining the 2 isn't something I've seen.
Chicken and mushroom I understand, but if I wanted to expand the prawn dish, I'd add fish or scallops or both.

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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / The Hamburger
« on: August 21, 2023, 12:39 AM »
This is as good a description, with wonderful photographs, of the Australian Burger as you'd hope to find.  The Blogger, Sara, calls the full kit a burger with the lot instead of a works burger and lists the fried egg as the final extra. I would argue that it is the pineapple which is the last addition.  She also provides the option of Tomato Sauce (Aussie Ketchup) in the ingredient list, but like me she prefers Barbecue.  It simply has to be Barbecue Sauce.  My go-to preference is always the Burger w/ Bacon and Egg and BBQ Sauce.

https://bellyrumbles.com/almighty-aussie-burger-recipe/

Dinner tonight, I think.  I just need to decide on home-made or Gab's.

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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / Re: Donner in a tin
« on: August 20, 2023, 10:30 PM »
As you said Phil, each to their own.  Sadly, the real hamburger is disappearing.  McDonalds has done the damage and the Takeaway that used to be found in almost any town are mostly gone.  Just another piece of history.  Fortunately for me, one of the remaining few is right at the bottom of my street and they (he) makes great burgers.  The ones that do remain are very popular and the trade workers keep them busy for breakfast and lunches.  They are another one of those mysteries like BIR and the Doner.  You can make it at home but it just isn't the same as buying one cooked on the big flat top.

My wife and I had to do a drive yesterday and to my surprise, we passed a mobile food trailer on the side of the road.  It was colourfully painted and decorated and had signage declaring it to be Mr Sheesh with the words Kebabs and Doner in big letters.  I haven't seen a roadside doner van in years. Unfortunately, we were on a schedule and couldn't stop.

New thread on the burger.

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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / Re: Donner in a tin
« on: August 20, 2023, 11:53 AM »

Most hamburger eaters would same the same about a hamburger ("must have the salad / mayonnaise / tomato ketchup / gherkin / w-h-y"), but I'm sorry, I disagree.  When I have a hamburger, I want to taste the burger and the bun, nothing more (apart from lashings of salt, that is, and cheese and/or bacon if I am after that particular variant that day).  And I am exactly the same with my kebabs — kebab meat, pitta bread, lemon (for shish kebab, not for doner) and some pickled chillies, nothing more.  Each to their own, of course, but if I can't taste the primary ingredient unadulterated by salad / mayonnaise / tomato ketchup / gherkin / red sauce / toum / w-h-y, then I don't want to know.
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** Phil.

Did you not eat a proper Australian hamburger when you were here Phil? No mayonnaise, gherkin (pickle) or ketchup anywhere near our Aussie burgers mate. The basic burger, or plain hamburger as it is known, consists of the pure beef pattie, fried onion, tomato slices and lettuce on the toasted and buttered sesame seed bun, with barbecue sauce but the main thing is that it has to have slices of sweet beetroot.  From here you build with the extras being cheddar cheese slice, bacon, fried egg (runny yolk) and if you order a burger with the works you will get all of the above with a slice of pineapple as well.  As we say over here, wrap your laughin' gear around that.  You can't be satisfied unless you have beetroot and beef juices mixed with runny egg yolk running down your forearms and dribbling from your elbows.

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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / Re: Donner in a tin
« on: August 19, 2023, 11:44 PM »
Why reinvent the wheel? A doner kebab isn't complete without red sauce and toum.

https://allfoodi.com/doner-kebab-red-sauce/

https://dobbernationloves.com/food-drink/kebab-garlic-sauce-recipe/

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