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Lets Talk Curry / Chicken 65
« on: January 16, 2024, 06:32 AM »
I had a go at Swasthi’s chicken 65 last night.
https://www.indianhealthyrecipes.com/chicken-65-recipe-no-egg-restaurant-style-chicken-recipes/

I used the egg option but having no fresh curry leaves I left them out of the garnish.
I fried the chicken off in batches in my ridiculously small deep fat fryer, keeping the batches hot in the oven. This resulted in the batter become soft and I lost some when stir frying with the final tempering.

Result. Tasty chicken but a lot of faff. If I did it again I would dig out my much larger deep fat fryer.

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Takeaway Costs
« on: December 28, 2023, 02:21 AM »
The BBC is running a story on the current cost of a takeaway curry in various regions of the U.K.

Indian takeaways: Restaurant owners say high prices down to perfect storm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-67138765

The wife and I used to have a takeaway most weeks but in our area, a medium sized town midway between Chelmsford and Colchester, the cost is becoming prohibitive.

A main course each, a couple of chapatis, two veg side dishes and some poppadoms (which used to be free) is now close to £45.

The price seems to be a bit of a lottery; we add up the cost of the order and even though we have the latest menu, an additional 3 or 4 quid is always added to the order. I don’t know if this is now for delivery, despite the menu stating delivery is free but it means the delivery guys and gals don’t get as big a tip as they used to receive from us.

The takeaway opens at 17.00 but has recently decided to deliver from 18.00 hours, meaning the food is invariably tepid and can arrive too late to eat before bed.

The biggest problem is the quality of the food. I tend to order from the tandoori section, mixed grill or chicken shaslik, whilst the wife focuses on some of the “regional specialities”, shaktora or Nawabi. I’ve noticed on a chicken shaslik that the quantity of chicken has reduced to be replaced with added onion or tomato, whilst the wife says everything off the regional menu tastes exactly the same, there is no variation in the sauces.

This is from the take away that we have used for many years, it has never been the greatest but was the best of the lot. A rival opened a few years back claiming to offer a “fine dining takeaway experience”, a claim they never substantiated but it was a better take away and carried a premium price. We used it for a short while but reverted to our usual take away after a while. I’m told now that this high end restaurant has also increased its cost but has nearly halved its portion size and quality has fallen away. The owner of a local Tapas bar used to sing the praises of this high end option but was so disappointed with recent meals he told the restaurateur, a friend, that he could no longer recommend the place anymore and would no longer being ordering from there, and these guys are/were good buddies.

We all know the Indian restaurant trade has been in trouble for years now, I just wonder if this is the death knell for the industry from which it won’t claw itself back?
In comparison to the rapidly rising costs of a takeaway Indian, we ordered from the local Chinese tonight.
Duck and pancakes to start with, a couple of main courses, chefs special chow mein and a bag of prawn crackers. Delivered to home at a little over £32. The menu is old and out of date but the cost of the meal was about £2 over the cost shown on the menu.
The Chinese seems to be of much better value that a comparable Indian and certainly hasn’t risen as much in cost as the Indian has.
The two takeaways used to be comparable in cost for a meal for two, I would suggest the Indian is likely 50% more than the Chinese now.
T63

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About 20 years ago, I went beating for shooting parties several times. We were given a couple of pheasants as partial remuneration, each session. I recall cooking some the next day and experimenting with hanging for various periods. I also played around with seasoning, sauces and other aspects. But nothing I tried, produced a pleasant flavour for my taste. I much prefer chicken. Pigeon is also tasty.

I like to think I have trialled a good few recipes on a lot of birds over the many years I have been shooting.
I know when a bird is past roasting and needs to go into a casserole, and I follow loosely a Saint Delia recipe for roast pheasant but use a simple stuffing and a lot of streaky bacon to retain moisture.

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Given that you cannot shoot game on a Sunday, I would assume that the latest they would have been shot was Saturday (if not today) so they would be at the latter end of our hanging time.
I don’t know what temperatures you have been experiencing in your neck of the woods but it has been up to 9 or 10C in our little corner of Essex, so give em a sniff before you hang them too long.

What are you planning for them, roasting, casseroling, breasting and pan frying?

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My wife's hotel has just been gifted four brace of freshly-shot pheasant, and I have been asked to "do the necessary".  I know that they need to be hung, but for how long ?  I have improvised with road-kill pheasants in the past, and of course have cooked pre-hung, drawn and plucked pheasants, but never had to deal with multiple pheasants all requiring the full process.  All advice welcome.
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** Phil.

Hanging Pheasants Phil is a question of taste. Some people will eat a well hung pheasant but others don’t like the gamey taste that develops.
My wife likes her pheasants prepped and in the cooker/fridge/freezer within two days, but we hang ours in the shed and they are at the mercy of the weather conditions, if you have a good meat fridge at 3C you may get away with longer.
We frequently donate up to 10 brace at one of our local restaurants and they prep and store them immediately.

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Venison curry
« on: November 26, 2023, 05:41 PM »
Thank you, T63 — much appreciated.
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** Phil.

Hi Phil, I spoke with one of the guys who shoots deer and he said he removes them when they field dress them. He does it to reduce the size of the burden, and to minimise the risk of sharp things piercing his rucksack. He said some people retain them as dog treats.

I know that there are hygiene issues when a deer has been gralloched and thought that may be a reason to remove them but he said the removal of the hooves isn’t part of that process but as part of the external hygiene inspection they check between the cleaves of the hoof for the lesions caused by foot and mouth disease.


Regards


T63

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Venison curry
« on: November 24, 2023, 01:21 PM »
I realise that he was dead, I fully appreciate that he could no longer feel pain, I know that he was destined to be eaten, but why did someone find it necessary to cut off his feet ?  I am confident that it wasn't mutilation for mutilation’s sake, but to my mind it does convey a sad lack of respect for a once noble creature ...
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** Phil.

I will ask the question of the gamekeeper when I next see him Phil. I watched a number of videos of deer being processed and from memory all of them had the feet/hooves removed.

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: Venison curry
« on: November 24, 2023, 05:36 AM »
The beast after skinning

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Lets Talk Curry / Venison curry
« on: November 24, 2023, 05:32 AM »
I’m not sure how venison is interchangeable with other meats when cooking in a curry. Whilst I have a little experience with venison joints I don’t recall ever using it in a curry. So having taken charge of a 60kg fallow buck I am looking for ways to run down the glut currently in my freezer.

The deer arrived with his skin on which, never having jointed such a beast before, took me by surprise.

After relieving the beast of his coat it took me another 4 hours to joint him which means I now have bags of diced and minced venison.

I am going to knock up a venison rara at the weekend using both diced and minced venison as a trial and see how the meat turns out in comparison to beef, mutton or goat. I’ll let you know how it turns out.



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Talk About Anything Other Than Curry / Sous Vide
« on: November 20, 2023, 08:56 PM »
I was mooching through an American based food website where it appears every contributor uses sous vide in their food preparation.
I saw a documentary on tv some time back where a UK pub chain cooked their dishes centrally sous vide style before distribution for finishing off on the individual sites/pubs/restaurants.
Does anyone here regularly use sous vide for food preparation at home and if they do, is it really worth all the cost and bother?
T63

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