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Lets Talk Curry / A new Curry Book
« on: January 21, 2008, 04:15 PM »
Hi All

Talking of new books.

I've just pre-ordered this book from Amazon (not available until February).

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0761137874

Probably same as all the other Indian recipe books!

I will post review once I've got it!

Regards

SnS  ;D

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As most of you will be aware, I was invited by Raj (the manager) to spend a few hours in the kitchens of Saffron in Lincoln. Yesterday lunch time I spent 3 hours learning how to make the base gravy with Saffron's four chefs (Anam, Aziz, Lal and Joy).

Kitted out in full chefs outfit, notebook and pen I was told that the gravy we were about to make is used in about 80% of their curries. Raj told me that the batch we were making was for me to take home ... oh deep joy (this filled a 5 kg yoghurt bucket).

So here it is chaps:-

Please Note: An update to this recipe has been supplied here (please click link): http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php/topic,2271.msg20262.html#msg20262

8 to 10 medium size cooking onions (about 1.5 kg unpeeled)
1 large carrot
1 green pepper
4 salad potatoes (peeled)
2 medium tomatoes

Chop roughly and add to large cooking pot

Add:-

2 cups (500 ml) of fresh vegetable oil
2 tbsp (30 g) garlic/ginger puree
1 tbsp (15 g ml) salt
enough water to cover all the ingredients

Cover and bring to boil. Simmer for about 40 minutes stirring occasionally.

Add:-

Half a tin (200 g) of chopped plum tomatoes (Italian Napolina)
25 ml cumin powder
25 ml coriander powder
25 ml turmeric powder
25 ml paprika (deghi mirch)

1 tsp - 5 ml, 1 tbsp = 15 ml

Cook for another 10 minutes.
Remove from heat and blend for at least 5 minutes until very smooth.

Add  2 pints of water. The gravy will now resemble a very thin soup.

Bring to boil. Simmer uncovered for about 20-30 minutes stirring occasionally. Remove any scum forming on the surface. When the oil separates the gravy is complete.

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Now as soon as I got home, I poured the gravy into my cooking pot (see photo below).

I will warn you, the gravy tastes and smells absolutely nothing like curry. It has a bland (but not bitter) taste. Do not let this fool you. This is exactly as it should be (I tasted one of their ready made gravies).

I whipped up a quick prawn madras using 2 ladles (200 ml) of sauce and I've got tell you ... it was really great.

Here is the Madras (for one). For two just double up on all ingredients etc....

Half cooking onion chopped finely
200 ml gravy
0.5 tsp coriander
0.5 tsp cumin
0.5 tsp turmeric
1 tsp chilli powder (or more if you're a chilli head)
2 tsp tomato puree
A little veg oil (2 tbsp)

Heat oil (medium heat) add onion. Fry onion until just starting to colour (about 5 minutes)
Add spices stirring continuously for 1 minute
(add cooked meat here)
Add gravy and tomato puree and simmer (medium heat) for about 10 minutes stirring regularly. Add a little water if it gets too dry.
Add prawns near end of cooking.

Photos from top
.. the base gravy
.. cooking the madras
.. the finished prawn madras

Regards

SnS ;D

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From the original thread http://www.curry-recipes.co.uk/curry/index.php?topic=1429.0

Fonts in green are quotes directly off the recipe sheet.

Received the package today. Contains a recipe sheet, a CD and a plastic takeaway carton containing the following spices:-

60g Garlic powder, 60g ginger powder, 15g cummin, 5g turmeric, 25g chili, 30g garam masala, 5g paprika, a tiny bag of dried coriander and a smaller bag of fenugreek.

Here is the base curry gravy recipe (which I think we all know already). Makes about 7 to 7.5 pints of curry gravy. In fact the first stage is remarkably similar to the Curry Secret by Kris Dhillon - surprise surprise!

6 lb peeled and roughly chopped onions
2 oz ginger powder or 6 oz fresh ginger
2 oz garlic powder or 6 oz fresh pureed garlic
1.5 to 2 pints of chicken stock
1 tsp salt
1 tin chopped tomatoes
8 tablespoons veg oil
2 tsp turmeric
2 tsp paprika

In a food processor blend the onions down to a paste, then add them to a large pan with the rest of the above ingredients, bring to boil, simmer very slowly and keep blending some of the mixture, returning it to the pan, stirring and blending some more. The more you do this, the smoother your curry will be. Keep this up for approx 45 minutes, stirring often, making sure the sauce does not burn on the bottom of the pan. On to stage 2 ..

... and stage 2, the curry (which doesn't have a name)

10 tablespoons veg oil
4 tspn salt
2 tspn chili
8 tspn garam masala
4 tspn cummin
0.25 tspn fenugreek
half a Jif lemon juice

Mix the above ingredients in a frying pan and fry out slowly for about 3 minutes to release the taste of spices. Mix the fried spices to the blended mix and continue simmering very slowly and continuing with the blender, simmer for about 20-25 minutes before adding coriander. IMPORTANT - if any 'scum' appears on the surface, around the edge, spoon it away, this gives the sauce a more bitter taste. This doesn't always happen, it depends on the onions. Finally mix in 1.25 tspn of dried finely chopped green coriander or 3 tspn chopped fresh coriander (fresh better) again this amount to taste. Stir for 1 minute.

CONGRATULATIONS - Enjoy your first Restaurant style home made curry


Personally I don't think there is anything here that we don't know already.

I'm not quite sure whether this produces 7 pints of a mild curry or 7 pints of a spicy curry gravy (which he calls a curry)??

Either way, I will give this a go - as soon as my freezer has some room.

Also the e-bay seller claims the spices alone would cost over 20.00 quid. I really don't think so.

Regards
SnS ;)

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Lets Talk Curry / HAPPY NEW YEAR
« on: January 01, 2008, 12:33 AM »
Wishing everybody a Happy and prosperous New Year for 2008.

.... and may the real secrets and mysteries of the BIR be finally solved ;D

regards to all

SnS ;)

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Lets Talk Curry / Growing Ginger at Home
« on: December 30, 2007, 08:02 PM »
I read somewhere that if a two inch piece of ginger root is planted in sandy soil it will grow into a plant (indoors on the window ledge). Whenever a piece of root is required, just cut a piece off. It keeps growing - apparently.

Anybody tried this? How long does it take to grow? Is it worth doing? etc etc ..

Regards
SnS 8)

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Today was our company Christmas lunch which, you guessed it, was in my favourite Indian restaurant in Lincoln.

Raj is the manager and head chef of the Saffron - a really great guy and a great restaurant. He also instructs the other three chefs and they in turn stick to his recipes to ensure consistency.

Today I asked him for a tour of the kitchen and would he teach me a few things about BIR cooling. Well not only did he agree, but offered to come round to my house for a one to one tuition (I offered to pay but he declined).

This will now be arranged for after the Christmas period. He has also asked me if I would like to go into the kitchens for an all day session on a Saturday (when they're at their busiest) so I can watch them make the gravy and the individual curries. Great eh?

Anyway, back to today - the Kitchen tour. Well here's a few facts that left be gobsmacked.

1) The BIR taste can never be achieved by freezing the curry gravy. He tells me that whilst some restaurants keep their gravy for up to 3 days (not frozen), after only 24 hours the gravy will lose it's flavour and darken. It should always be used fresh. He agrees that a completed curry dish can improve in flavour when frozen - but definitely not the gravy.

2) The gravy comprises onions, garlic & ginger puree, green pepper, tinned tomatoes, a little of the four main spices, water and oil. Nothing else. It goes through two cooking processes.

3) Never use Spanish onions or king size onions, they are too sweet. Only use medium size cooking onions.

4) The majority of recipes come from the one curry gravy, but there are three used to cover all recipes.

5) Garam masala is not used in the majority of dishes and never used in fish or shellfish dishes.

6) Only spices used in varying quantities for majority of dishes are coriander, cumin, turmeric and chilli. No other spices are used in the majority of dishes.

7) Only other ingredients added in varying quantities are garlic & ginger puree, tomato puree, salt, lentil paste (dhansak) and fresh coriander ... and of course the gravy.

Now the gobsmack ... It is not necessary to use a prepared gravy to achieve the BIR taste. ... and according to Raj, a better BIR taste can be achieved without using a gravy. :o

I will be arranging an all day session some time in January. If there are any specific questions (not too difficult please) that you would like me to ask him then please post.
 :)
Regards
SNS

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Anyone know of a good Pathia recipe (using base gravy - not from scratch).

There does seem to be a distinct absence of recipes for this dish - I only found one on this forum.

The typical sweet is from jaggery or sugar - and the sour is from the tamarind - but what else gives it that distinctive taste?

I will be experimenting during the next week using my recent curry base recipe so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

 ;D

Regards
Smokenspices

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Gordon Ramseys F word is due to save an Indian Restaurant from collapse next Tuesday Ch4 9.00 pm ... now that could be a laugh! :)

quote:
The outspoken chef attempts to turn around a failing Indian restaurant in Nottingham where customers are allowed to create their own dishes, making life hell for chef Zahir. A ?500,000 refurbishment in January has left The Curry Lounge looking like a Bollywood movie set, but that is the most authentic aspect of the ethnic concoction which has no chain of command and a messy menu.

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Having tried Admin's base curry sauce the other day, this weekend I did some experimenting. This is a base sauce I made today.

SMOKENSPICE?s  BASIC CURRY SAUCE

Use standard measures throughout
1 teaspoon (tsp) = 5ml
1 tablespoon (tbsp) = 15 ml

1 tbsp Coriander powder
1 tbsp Turmeric powder
2.5 tsp Cumin powder
1 tsp Chilli powder (or more if hotter sauce is required)
2 tsp Madras Curry powder (rajah)
1 tsp salt
5 medium Cooking or Spanish onions
10 cloves garlic
1.5 inch cube ginger root (20-25 grams)
400 grams of finely pureed tomatoes (or 1 tin of tomatoes)
200 ml hot water
100 ml cold water
1 cup vegetable oil


Mix the spices and salt with 100 ml of cold water to form a paste.
Finely chop the onions, garlic and ginger. Add to the pot with the oil and fry on a high heat for 10 to 15 minutes stirring constantly until the onions are transparent and sweet and the liquid has evaporated.
Reduce the heat and then put in the curry paste. Turn up the heat, stirring continuously to fry off the spices for about 1 minute.
Add tomatoes and hot water and bring to the boil.
Reduce heat and simmer uncovered for 5 minutes, stirring occasionally.
Turn off the heat. Using a hand blender, blend for at least 5 minutes until the sauce is very fine.

Cover, turn the heat on very low and simmer for at least an hour (stirring occasionally) until the oil separates. The sauce will darken in colour.

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