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Lets Talk Curry / Re: How do best BIR do it
« on: February 21, 2015, 01:50 PM »
Very interesting thread this.
I believe you come to your own conclusions after experimenting for years taking in consideration all your curry experiences over that time,I have cooked a curry in two separate takeaways plus had a days tuition in a Indian restaurant kitchen that specialise in 'traditional' style curry's that are made using very finely chopped onions and tomatoes to create the curry sauce/gravy and very nice too  :)
In my opinion 'the taste' needs to be in the gravy from the start and spices etc added at final cooking are only added to differentiate one dish from another.
My local where I cooked a madras use the 'all in the base' method where their gravy is basically a finished curry with only the odd ingredients are added to produce the desired dish and their curry's are very good.
When I think about it 'that taste' is the curry sauce in my curry the meat or whatever tastes of whatever the product is plus a light spicing probably from a marinating process but the flavour I really like is in the sauce.
I have made countless base gravy's and the finished flavour in the recipe is 'a mild onion soup' type flavour
Then on making the curry's even after adding spice at the final curry stage ends up dissapointing once again   :(
The best results I've had from memory was from the admin base which uses quite a lot of garlic and the gravy has that 'finished curry flavour' .

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: what are the spice mixes of the moment?
« on: November 23, 2014, 08:25 PM »
Hi DD, was too busy yesterday to make our usual madras so opted for the local t/a and very nice it was to  ;D Anyway , the thing is they don't add any additional spice mix to the final dish as its "all in da base" 8)
Makes me wonder the importance of adding any spice mix in the final dish .

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Lets Talk Curry / Re: It's all about that base ;)
« on: November 09, 2014, 08:25 PM »
I see tamarind is in the list of ingredients.

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Curry Base Chat / Re: Slow Cooking Of Jb's Base
« on: October 26, 2014, 09:54 PM »
Thin cheap stockpot?

Bit more stirring next time and a lower heat and you'll be right mate.

Thirty odd quid matey stainless steel 10 litre with solid base.
Made another base yesterday , used more veg oil brought to the boil then high simmer for 2 1/2 hours, turned out excellent.

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Curry Base Chat / Re: Slow Cooking Of Jb's Base
« on: October 23, 2014, 09:27 PM »
Made the JB base last weekend, did the 2 hour hard boil and despite adding some water and giving an occasional stir ended up with 1/2" of burnt sludge on the bottom of the pan  :-\ Had to bin the lot !

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Cooking Methods / Re: BIR cooking method
« on: September 16, 2014, 07:46 PM »
@emin-j how do they successfully differentiate their dishes sufficient to create a full menu of different offerings?

I've seen pouring cream from a carton going into the frying pan probably a korma or ctm mixed with the ' all in one ' gravy but I guess any curry on the menu which comes in a gravy would be the same base, to be fair me and the mrs have madras plus my daughter has a biryani and the curry is not bad at all.

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Cooking Methods / Re: BIR cooking method
« on: September 15, 2014, 10:53 PM »
Some BIR are using the ' all in the base ' method which is basically a completed curry sauce and only chili and the odd whole spice used in the final curry, my local t/a use this method.

1 ladle of base into heated pan , no additional oil to start the curry.
Cook the ladle of base down frying out all the water.
Add another ladle of base on medium heat , add chili powder , star anise , black cardamom .
Add meat and more base turn up heat simmer for approx 2 mins .
Add a good sprinkle of fresh coriander .
Done .

I did ask about the not using of powdered spices in the finished curry and the chef said " everything in the gravy "  ???

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I made the base and I thought it was pretty much like many I have done before
That was BEFORE I added the tarka and reboiled
That really transformed it
This tastes genuine
It's got that extra flavour

I'm having great difficulty believing that this simple tarka is really the final 5%. But then again I haven't tried it yet. And why has no-one else ever seen BIRs do this - crafty devils!  ;D

The thought occurs to me that it may be possible, as I have a freezer full of base already, to just add the garlic tarka to some reheated base and then blend. Would it really be that different? Suppose there's one way to find out.

And jb, as others also have asked, to what degree is the garlic fried?

SS it is only a 5% we have been missing, fingers crossed this could be it  ;D

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Well done jb excellent job  ;)
So what can we learn from this new base ? Have we been under cooking the onions for all this time  ::)
The Glasgow base talks about the onions turning 'milky' and I must admit I did get good results from this base.

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